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    Quote Originally Posted by smcfee View Post
    It is a mixed bag. Because of censorship, "Cei Ce Ne-au Dat Nume" was a single instead of a double-LP. They were able to curry favor with "Mugur de Fluier", by mixing in those folkloric elements, but I believe all the "Lasă, Lasă" interludes are shorter than they could have been. "Cantofabule" is really the only album where they were allowed to be themselves, and even that there were issues (they wanted to call it "Cantafabule", for one thing, which they were eventually able to fix on the 1996 reissue).

    I have mentioned this before, but I had a Romanian coworker 20 years ago who had followed the scene there and told me a bunch about it. One thing I remember him mentioning was that groups like Post Scriptum and Celelalte Cuvinte were better live than what we heard on record, because they had to make compromises to get recorded.

    So I tend to be on the side of the argument that what we got from Romania would have been better without government interference. You compare it to Yugoslavia where there appears to have been more artistic freedom, and a richer output was the result.
    Agreed, government censorship is never going to be good for any art form. Things were particularly hard in Romania, it seems. Yugoslavia certainly seems to have enjoyed greater artistic freedom. That's something that's worth exploring in a different thread, if there isn't already one here. One reason for my particular interest in Romania is that I lived there for a while, a few years ago, and explored the local music scene, both past and present, so I know more about Romania than Yugoslavia.

    Anyway, here is Domnisoara Pogany - "Da prin nu" from the album "Kahani".

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    Yeah, I was only comparing them because they were both Eastern Bloc countries.

    Romania still ends up miles ahead of most of the others.
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    Another one : Kumm - Moonsweat March 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by smcfee View Post
    You compare it to Yugoslavia where there appears to have been more artistic freedom, and a richer output was the result.
    Historically speaking, the "e-bloc" censorship practices of these two countries were literally incomparable. Romania was an extreme autocracy and attemptive Stalinist dictatorship pinning all decisions on essentially one voice.

    Yugoslavia by the 70s however was no longer a Warsaw-pact dictatorship at all, having long since broken ties with Moscow and developed a syncretic autonomy-system admitting centralized self-governance for not only separate nations within the confederation of Yugoslavia but even to regions -within- these. There was still an apparatus of highly compressed political authority in overall state and "federal" bureaucracy (Belgrade) empowering the leader, Josip Tito, but part independence and an official policy of "market-socialism" allowed for each region-nation to decide for themselves in budgets, cultural strategies, media dynamics et al. Within reasonable compliance of ideological licensing from assorted committees and directives, of course.

    One should need not look any further than the tale of the semi-legendary Buldozer from Ljubljana to see the hands of oppression making nocturnal calls even in such a fairly "liberal" part of Yugoslavia as Slovenia.
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    For people following them, Yesterdays have a new album released. Only one track on BC, but it is very long and quite interesting:


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    It may not be to everyone's taste, but if you're able to stand some extreme metal vocalizing then the Romanian black metal band Negura Bunget are brilliant, and their songs include heavy doses of ambient synth, folk music, and conceptualism. For instance they have an album which is four 10+-minute songs, each of which is about a different season. Their album Om is my favorite. Even if you're not into extreme metal, grit your teeth through the first 20 seconds of this song and the vibe changes drastically:

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    I thought Yesterdays are Hungarian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    I thought Yesterdays are Hungarian?
    They’re ethnically/linguistically Hungarian, but technically (because of bungled border-redrawing after WWII) Romanian. In spite of that, hearing that they have produced new material is good news!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    I would like to recommend the following.

    Phoenix. All three LPs from the original era but Cantofabule especially. Their esoteric merger of progressive hard rock with various folk tones from the entire Tatra region makes for a stew which still stands solely on its own. Nothing ever really sounded quite like it. Their backstory is highly interesting as well, with Nicolae Covaci's standing out. Three members smuggled themselves out of Romania and to the West during one of the 70s communist party's purges by hiding in a set of large amplifier-cabinets on loan from Germany, after reliable information that they'd been targeted by the infamous Securitate (secret police) for having musicians of Jewish and Romani heritage in their ranks - but likely because they were perceived as harboring "subversive" attitudes in lyrics and appeal.
    I have one album by Phoenix on a cassette-tape, but actually I don't know anything about it. I copied it from a cassettetape of a schoolmate of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    I thought Yesterdays are Hungarian?
    According to their bio on the BC page, "Yesterdays is a Hungarian progressive rock band based in Romania and Hungary". The main creative force of the band, Ákos Bogáti-Bokor, is born in Romania, but is of Hungarian ethnicity, as many people are in Transylvania. I think they are living/being active in Hungary, but they recorded material both in Romanian and Hungarian studios. I have them in my collection in the Romanian section as I placed them there once I bought their debut. Your miles may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    I would like to recommend the following.

    Phoenix. All three LPs from the original era but Cantofabule especially. Their esoteric merger of progressive hard rock with various folk tones from the entire Tatra region makes for a stew which still stands solely on its own. Nothing ever really sounded quite like it. Their backstory is highly interesting as well, with Nicolae Covaci's standing out. Three members smuggled themselves out of Romania and to the West during one of the 70s communist party's purges by hiding in a set of large amplifier-cabinets on loan from Germany, after reliable information that they'd been targeted by the infamous Securitate (secret police) for having musicians of Jewish and Romani heritage in their ranks - but likely because they were perceived as harboring "subversive" attitudes in lyrics and appeal.
    Bassplayer Josef Kappl played with Lake and Heinz Rudolf Kunze and wrote a rock-opera.
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    Nu & Apa Neagră from Timisoara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBES View Post
    It may not be to everyone's taste, but if you're able to stand some extreme metal vocalizing then the Romanian black metal band Negura Bunget are brilliant, and their songs include heavy doses of ambient synth, folk music, and conceptualism. For instance they have an album which is four 10+-minute songs, each of which is about a different season. Their album Om is my favorite. Even if you're not into extreme metal, grit your teeth through the first 20 seconds of this song and the vibe changes drastically:
    OM, is an extreme metal masterpiece that expands the boundaries of the genre. One of the best black metal albums ever.
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    I've always been a big fan of Tündérground:


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    Quote Originally Posted by wiz_d_kidd View Post
    I've always been a big fan of Tündérground:

    Is this from Romania? I've never heard of this band/artist!

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    Their old website (defunct now) ended in .RO (Romania)
    Here's their facebook pae: https://www.facebook.com/tundergroundster
    I'm not sure they're still together, but their Mirtill album is worth checking out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacefreak View Post
    OM, is an extreme metal masterpiece that expands the boundaries of the genre. One of the best black metal albums ever.
    Agree one hundred percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalmoxe View Post
    For people following them, Yesterdays have a new album released. Only one track on BC, but it is very long and quite interesting:

    Just pre-ordered this. Thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBES View Post
    It may not be to everyone's taste, but if you're able to stand some extreme metal vocalizing then the Romanian black metal band Negura Bunget are brilliant, and their songs include heavy doses of ambient synth, folk music, and conceptualism. For instance they have an album which is four 10+-minute songs, each of which is about a different season. Their album Om is my favorite. Even if you're not into extreme metal, grit your teeth through the first 20 seconds of this song and the vibe changes drastically:
    I don't usually go for this kind of thing, but do like Negura Bunget. I particularly like that track, here's a similar one:


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