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    Ugh.
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    The Red Sox went 4-10 over the last 14 games and the # of earned runs the starters have given up over that streak:
    2 2 0 0 2 2 1 0 0 0 3 0 2 0, which shows how bad the pen and offense have been.

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    Looks like we're back to the dead ball era

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    It stuck me how ridiculous things have gotten when pitch framing is considered one of the most valuable skills a catcher can have; arguably more important than hitting.

    There would be no such thing with competent umpiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    It stuck me how ridiculous things have gotten when pitch framing is considered one of the most valuable skills a catcher can have; arguably more important than hitting.

    There would be no such thing with competent umpiring.
    Do you consider framing a post modern (2000->) "skill set"?

    And is framing a reaction to a "debatable" umpire zone "correction" after the ludicrous wide strike zones of the 90s?



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    Quote Originally Posted by MudShark22 View Post
    Do you consider framing a post modern (2000->) "skill set"?

    And is framing a reaction to a "debatable" umpire zone "correction" after the ludicrous wide strike zones of the 90s?
    "Modern"? Quite possibly. I don't recall hearing much about framing. It certainly wasn't as valued as it is today. That would be a lost art with robo umps.

    I don't see it as a correction to a previous scenario at all.
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    Until last decade, talk about framing was minimal - likely discussed, but not categorized as a "catching tool" that got rated. No one talked about Gary Carter or Benito "framing".....

    But I do think the framing talk is a result of the strike zone shifting closer to its actuality over last 15 years or so - starting with KZone proliferation on TV and moving towards "rating" the umps nightly...

    And I agree that robo umps eliminates this "skill"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    It stuck me how ridiculous things have gotten when pitch framing is considered one of the most valuable skills a catcher can have; arguably more important than hitting.

    There would be no such thing with competent umpiring.
    Agreed.
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    Hopefully it will eventually go the way of VAR in soccer. It was so clear that the fans watching TV had a better view of the call than the referee on the field due the improved technology with high definition, multiple camera angles, slomo replays it became a joke and they had to provide the referee's the assistance of video.

    They do the same thing in cricket with ball tracking, heat mapping and snickometers (that show if the ball imperceptibly touched the bat and thus enabling a catch) to help the umpires make the call.

    Personally I made me much more impressed with the standard of umpiring in cricket with how often they got the call right despite having to predict the flight of a spinning pitching ball.

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    The MLB just announced the Cleveland Guardians' game against the White Sox on Wednesday has been postponed due to a COVID outbreak.

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    The MLB just announced the Cleveland Guardians' game against the White Sox on Wednesday has been postponed due to a COVID outbreak.
    yippee. Here we go.
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    Well, a positive side of baseball is that there are so many opportunities to make up games... or just skip them altogether because who cares. But it's not devastating to the schedule or season like it is for football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3LockBox View Post
    Well, a positive side of baseball is that there are so many opportunities to make up games... or just skip them altogether because who cares. But it's not devastating to the schedule or season like it is for football.
    So many pennant races come down to the wire, though. Every game is important. Skipping them is the last resort.
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