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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    I like Horses and Trees and especially Middle Passage.
    I also like the Jonas Hellborg record he produced with Tony Williams a LOT.

    Many of the AXIOM releases are some of my favorite Laswell. He never hit as many high spots as he seemed to with that particular imprint. Maybe it was the major label distribution and he didn't want to be lazy (Lazy is how I would characterize too many Laswell productions; they're fine, but I don't think he isn't trying very hard and is running on Laswell autopilot)

    Can't forget the incredible Sonny Sharrock / Pharoah Sanders release he had a hand in too.

    Just played Hallucination Engine. Some nice solos and some nice atmospheres, but, all-in-all, it feels like a typical 90s Laswell album to me and nothing more. Not bad at all, but it didn't grab me at all. At least not on one listen.

    YMMV. Please only be a little bit offended. Thank you.
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    I will give a hearing to it.



    I heard the first one once when it came out and it didn't make an impression. I have a friend who loves these and I'll ask to hear them sometime.
    Arc of the Testimony is significantly different from The Last Wave. My favorite of the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    P.S.

    Now playing (and really enjoying & it's a Bill production)

    Nicky Skopelitis & Raoul Björkenheim ‎– Revelator
    Ordered! I had never heard of this one, but based on some Youtube samples, yes it is very good. And some of the music is very different than what I know from both of these players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick L. View Post
    I'm so offended I can barely contain myself.
    You definitely better not read Koby Israelite’s comments on BL in this interview then:

    https://themusicandmyth.com/2019/05/...ll-lawson/amp/

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    New cd i recently mastered
    by Aceta a chamber rock ensemble from Chile
    Compositions and cincept by Rodrigo Maccioni
    Soon to be released by Azafran Media

    https://youtu.be/cIwvYSCENKY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udi Koomran View Post
    New cd i recently mastered
    by Aceta a chamber rock ensemble from Chile
    Compositions and cincept by Rodrigo Maccioni
    Soon to be released by Azafran Media

    https://youtu.be/cIwvYSCENKY
    Sounds great!! Let us know when it is released. I will most likely buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udi Koomran View Post
    New cd i recently mastered
    by Aceta a chamber rock ensemble from Chile
    Compositions and cincept by Rodrigo Maccioni
    Soon to be released by Azafran Media

    https://youtu.be/cIwvYSCENKY
    G R E A T !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Udi Koomran View Post
    New cd i recently mastered
    by Aceta a chamber rock ensemble from Chile
    Compositions and cincept by Rodrigo Maccioni
    Soon to be released by Azafran Media

    https://youtu.be/cIwvYSCENKY
    Wonderful track!
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    How come I'm not in this thread yet?
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    I blame Wynton, what was the question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedunno View Post
    The first Rio album I played in 2022 is actually one from a band I cant get into while i really should dig them: Art Zoyd - Live at Rio 2015.

    Still cant get into them. Too dark and heavy handed. I need a lighter and more playful note tossed in.
    That's a great album but it has sentimental value as I was there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    How come I'm not in this thread yet?
    We were waiting for you!
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    First finding of 2022:



    ..."experimental music for people with mental issues" from Quito, Ecuador. It's kicking my arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    How come I'm not in this thread yet?
    You slippin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by snicolette View Post
    Nice to see you over here! It's generally a good place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascodagama View Post
    You slippin'
    No kidding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    How come I'm not in this thread yet?
    Because we heard you're a symph weenie.

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    How come I'm not in this thread yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascodagama View Post
    First finding of 2022:



    ..."experimental music for people with mental issues" from Quito, Ecuador. It's kicking my arse.
    Quite excellent
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    Quito, Ecuador is not a place I've heard any prog from, as far as I can remember. Very cool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascodagama View Post
    First finding of 2022:



    ..."experimental music for people with mental issues" from Quito, Ecuador. It's kicking my arse.
    Out of my radar and like it!.
    Tankx Mascodagama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^^

    Memory Serves was the first ‘downtown sound’ album released by a major label. It wasn’t the first released, but it was still very early and very excellent, and, IMO, most of it still holds up very well, over 40 years later.
    Agree on all accounts, and together with Sharrock's Ask the Ages it's also one of the very few lasting/surviving downtown sound "major" releases retaining a complete documentation of why this was such a unique wave of contemporary music-culture (I think it has endured better than Laswell's Baselines at that). They are both as rock and as jazz as they are heavily avant-garde, almost perfectly capturing that exact zeitgeist of free-form, unprejudiced creativity in cross-generational American musicmaking of the day.

    I'll have to say though, that to ME much of Material's earlier matter (ha!), like the Temporary Music anthology collects, comes across as rather tedious nowadays.

    There's stuff by Lounge Lizards, Doctor Nerve, Golden Palominos, Last Exit, Curlew, Massacre or a couple of the No-Wave bands (Swans and Mars especially) I'd probably rate above Memory Serves myself, but the fascination with that album was how such initially "difficult" material could be communicated and transferred so apparently uninhibited to unversed listeners. It's still an extremely listenable record, with a couple of tracks (notably the closer "Silent Land") even bordering on generally accessible and - indeed - generally memorable and/or hummable. A fab piece of work, and with Massacre's Killing Time, the bizarre New York Gong and some of his input with Painkiller, my fave cup of Laswell altohether.
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    I've been enjoying this record immensely the last few weeks:
    Gabriel Zucker - Leftover beats from the edge of time



    https://gabrielzucker.bandcamp.com/a...-edges-of-time

    I dunno it it is really 'avant-prog'. It is certainly hard to classify. Somewhere in between big band Jazz and modern classical with some rock and even pop thrown in. Extremely rewarding to delve in.

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    https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/10-best...-all-time/?amp

    Far Out Magazine's (?) 10 Best avant garde albums of all time. Have at it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Far Out Magazine's (?) 10 Best avant garde albums of all time.
    Do they even understand that 'avant-garde' denotes something other than 'avant-garde-rock'?

    And I even own and enjoy most of those on the list, except for Lennon's Lions - which I owned but basically amounts to pure rubbish and shouldn't figure on any list if it doesn't concern cornflakes in the toilet bowl. It's not creative, not radical or daring, not "colourful", not even the slightest bit transgressive.

    Where the hell is Nico's Marble Index, given the obvious pretext of styrlistic criteria at play?

    Shit. Starsailor is excellent but neither the best nor the most culturally-consequent Buckley-record. Is this post-modern hipster parade attempting to survive both pandemic and woke onslaught?
    Last edited by Scrotum Scissor; 01-21-2022 at 08:00 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascodagama View Post
    You definitely better not read Koby Israelite’s comments on BL in this interview then:

    https://themusicandmyth.com/2019/05/...ll-lawson/amp/
    That article was amazing. I 100% believe every word. Thank you for posting it.
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