Ian
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Unfukkin' believable.
We have two old guys with banks accounts with 9 digits to the left of the decimal point still going at it. Neither David, Rick or Nick ever said Roger wasn't the leader but Waters is still going after the 'I did everything' narrative. Except for the Live 8, and when they exchanged the 'you show up for me for 5 minutes and I do the same for you' so they can put it on their solo DVDs, they haven't worked together since the The Wall movie and The Final Cut album were released almost 40 years ago. Give it a rest.
My opinion, which I know doesn't count, is that neither would be anywhere near their current station in life without the others. Its the music that catches me first and if that isn't appealing, I'm not giving it another listen. That explains the no Dylan and Springsteen in my collection. When you add great lyrics to great music and sound quality, that's where the magic is. It seems all Waters can say is DG was a great guitarist and singer. I'm sure Waters didn't write the parts for Gilmour and Wright but usually never a word about that. Must note that when Wright passed, he did say he was a tremendous help on Dark Side of the Moon.
I just wanted the concert of the Animals tour. Maybe there isn't the professional, top shelf recording from the tour, but if they can make some of the stuff from the early box sets sound good (AHM, The Man, The Journey, SoS etc), there has to be some decent source material that they could have whipped into shape.
So this sat on a shelf for three years over liner notes? And no concert? I've already got 2 CD's of Animals. I don't have 5.1 so this is a hard pass. I know some here have really been waiting for that.
This is my fav band and I thought it would be a great way to go out with the Experience Edition of Animals. Major disappointment.
Did I say already Unfukkin' believable.
PS - What are the odds that in a year or two, that a live set shows up for the holidays?
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Little known fact: Roger Water's father died in WWII
70+ years and still bickering like fools. I want to sympathize with Roger getting banned from the Facebook page but hell, I suspect that the other camp is simply done with putting up with his shit. Anyhoo, I don't have 5.1 so this is of no interest to me. I appreciate Waters' lyrical abilities but lets face it, the guy hasn't exactly cranked out tons of hooks and timeless melodies. Dave's gift for lyrics is um...thin. Floyd was always the sum of its parts and this bickering takes away from the fact that when the four of them worked together it was magic. I would buy this in a heartbeat if it had a live show attached. It doesn't, so I won't. Back to those crusty old audience recordings.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
Ditto on all points
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Nice, you picked that up. After I wrote it and got off PE, I was out shopping and I was thinking I don’t really think Waters said he was ‘great’. It may be a fat shot, but I think it’s more of a ‘I could have got any good singer/guitarist to handle my great concepts’.
We don’t know what went on behind the scenes lately, but the refusal of Waters to have access to the PF website and FB pages for advertising, probably has put these guys back to square one. Bringing Polly into it and these guys won’t have anything good to say about each other until one of them is on the wrong side of the lawn. A shame.
1) I think that is more or less true
2) However, that is not mutually exclusive with him being... err... kind of right this time. It is true that Roger did try to be more civil recently. It is also true that many bands have no problem promoting the solo stuff from former members, specially if they are in good terms... and even if they are not! - check the Yes site for example. Also true that the Roger Waters solo stuff is WAY more relevant to PF fans than anything by Polly Samson... is not like we became fans of her writing after whatever she did write for PF... I don't think there is a single PF fan that can say that... I guess...
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
At the Live 8 set I got the impression that Roger was trying to be Mr Conciliatory, but Dave in particular was having none of it, he looked very uncomfortable at the end.
The sad truth is, Pink Floyd neglected to have any of their shows professionally recorded after 1972 and until 1980-81. The only exception was the BBC broadcast of the 1974 Wembley shows, we have the Beeb to thank for that (and many of the earlier live or almost-live recordings).
So, I wasn't expecting any official multitrack recording from the "Animals" tour, that just doesn't appear to exist. Sad indeed.
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Yes I never thought that any professionally-recorded live material from this era would materialise, TBH.
Hard to think of another big rock band who is so badly represented by professional audio/video from their commercial peak.
Definitely one of those times where you're grateful for fan 'tapers'. The Oakland show from this tour is a very good recording.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
From an English perspective, I would say to describe a person as 'jolly good' at something is quite normal, if a little old fashioned.
But to describe a person as 'jolly' as a description could, in some peoples eyes, be seen as an inference that they are overweight.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
I was being sarcastic. Poking at Roger for belaboring the point.My sarcasm detection is on low. I thought it was a well known fact
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
Well, seeing as how I somehow lost my copy of Animals (just the CD, not the jewel case and booklet!) I might be interested. I more a fan of the pre-Darkside material but Animals is my favorite of the post-Darkside stuff, and one I haven't hear on the radio a billion times like a lot of Dark Side, so I will consider this.
As to Waters, I think he has some good points and I think Gilmour may actually get a bit of perverse pleasure out of saying things in interviews he knows will piss Roger off, but that's pure speculation on my part. But yeah, Water QUIT the band, then took them to court over use of the name and lost, and Gilmour has control of it, so can do whatever he wants with it. Something Roger maybe should have considered before quitting, even though he thought he was actually ending the band by quitting (a sign of his arrogance, surely).
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