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    Quote Originally Posted by Interstellar View Post
    I love FEAR because there's a lot of great music in it, but I agree with some of the criticism here about the way the epics are conceived and about the heavy handed lyrics.
    Marillion's "obviously pieced together" epics often work because the music and vocals are great and each section is interesting in itself, but it would indeed be interesting if they put more continuity and consistency in those pieces.
    FEAR is what Brave should have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ytserush View Post
    FEAR is what Brave should have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    I must preface what I'm about to say with the fact that I appreciate most/almost all of marillion's catalogue, FEAR included. But I just listened to the Steven Wilson remix/master of Brave, and I'll be damned if it doesn't sound remarkably better than many modern albums (Paper Lies not withstanding).
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    Brave is the best thing they ever did IMO. And I'm a very long-time fan who genuinely likes every album to some degree. Clutching At Straws is amazing, Marbles is amazing... but Brave is Marillion in their purest form. Everything they do well is here, and is done to perfection. It's one of those albums that continues to reveal something new, no matter how many hundreds of times I've heard it.

    Some of the most spine-tingling music I've ever heard is on Brave. Now wash your hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    Brave is the best thing they ever did IMO. And I'm a very long-time fan who genuinely likes every album to some degree. Clutching At Straws is amazing, Marbles is amazing... but Brave is Marillion in their purest form. Everything they do well is here, and is done to perfection. It's one of those albums that continues to reveal something new, no matter how many hundreds of times I've heard it.

    Some of the most spine-tingling music I've ever heard is on Brave. Now wash your hands.
    I smoked some high quality green hast on Friday night and watch Brave live. Sublime. Say no more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    I smoked some high quality green hast on Friday night and watch Brave live. Sublime. Say no more!
    Were you at Brave live in Montreal? That concert was absolutely astonishing. And I'm not exaggerating - I was transfixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    Were you at Brave live in Montreal? That concert was absolutely astonishing. And I'm not exaggerating - I was transfixed.
    Longer answer, I saw two Marillion weekends, both were spellbinding. I honestly tried to get the Brave show but didn't make it!! i would say Brave is a top ten album in my full collection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    Longer answer, I saw two Marillion weekends, both were spellbinding. I honestly tried to get the Brave show but didn't make it!! i would say Brave is a top ten album in my full collection.
    Ahh okay. I was at four of the Montreal weekends, and the Brave one was my favourite - but they were all spectacular. I just can't get over the way they keep three full nights of music in their heads like that.
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    I've seen Marillion a lot, but I've never seen Brave performed live in full. It came out during one of their long periods of no US shows, and when they did the Brave live weekends it was a time when I just wasn't free to go. I really wish I'd been able to see it done live. At the NYC show on the This Strange Engine tour they did the title track, and it was fantastic. The audience was so attentive that during the quiet beginning, you could have heard a pin drop. I was in the balcony, and the way the sound filled that venue was something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    The New Kings is so good! ��
    "The New Kings" is great! Easily the best part of the album. I love the lyrics on that one. Powerful stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    I've seen Marillion a lot, but I've never seen Brave performed live in full. It came out during one of their long periods of no US shows, and when they did the Brave live weekends it was a time when I just wasn't free to go. I really wish I'd been able to see it done live.
    I'm in the same boat, and I consider Brave my favorite album ever. The weekends are just so expensive and I don't know if/when i'd be able to justify it to my wife who endured 2 Marillion shows back in 2012 in Chicago, which are likely the 1st and last Marillion shows she'll ever see.

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    Man, I'm sorry for those of you who missed out on Brave at the weekends. I don't think I'm rubbing it in to reiterate how mesmerizing it was, because I'm sure you know that it would be anyway. The band fired on all cylinders, and Hogarth was very theatrical. At one point when he was 'going crazy', some men in white coats came to drag him off, and he fought it so hard I was momentarily convinced it was real. The Great Escape was the best rendition I've seen, it had a different feel with the whole album building up to it like that. I so wish I could relive that show!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    Man, I'm sorry for those of you who missed out on Brave at the weekends. I don't think I'm rubbing it in to reiterate how mesmerizing it was, because I'm sure you know that it would be anyway. The band fired on all cylinders, and Hogarth was very theatrical. At one point when he was 'going crazy', some men in white coats came to drag him off, and he fought it so hard I was momentarily convinced it was real. The Great Escape was the best rendition I've seen, it had a different feel with the whole album building up to it like that. I so wish I could relive that show!
    I don't think you're rubbing it in. Just a sincere assessment. I knew I was missing something, I tried making it but couldn't. I'm going to watch my Brave DVD again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    I don't think you're rubbing it in. Just a sincere assessment. I knew I was missing something, I tried making it but couldn't. I'm going to watch my Brave DVD again.
    The afternoon before the show, we went to Brutopia to watch Pete play an Edison's Children set, which was good fun. The night before (night #1) was the Radiation album live plus a bunch of other tracks (they opened, of course, with Montréal), and although I like that album more than most fans seem to, it just couldn't hold a candle to night #2. Night #3 went on and on, with the Montréal crowd refusing to leave without a third encore, so they came out and played Garden Party!

    An exhausting weekend (in a good way). The Marbles weekend would be a fairly close runner-up for me, but damn those weekends have all been so fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    An exhausting weekend (in a good way). The Marbles weekend would be a fairly close runner-up for me, but damn those weekends have all been so fantastic.
    Agree - the Brave show on Saturday was the peak of Montreal convention nights for me. It was also the fist time I saw Jacob Moon, and I loved the story and dictation machine gimmick for his cover of Subdivisions. We also saw the UK convention that year, and the Montreal Brave performance topped it, although it was cool to see Jennifer Rothery doing the candle lighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    The afternoon before the show, we went to Brutopia to watch Pete play an Edison's Children set, which was good fun. The night before (night #1) was the Radiation album live plus a bunch of other tracks (they opened, of course, with Montréal), and although I like that album more than most fans seem to, it just couldn't hold a candle to night #2. Night #3 went on and on, with the Montréal crowd refusing to leave without a third encore, so they came out and played Garden Party!

    An exhausting weekend (in a good way). The Marbles weekend would be a fairly close runner-up for me, but damn those weekends have all been so fantastic.
    Yes, I saw the Marble tour (single night in Montreal in the early 2000). Marilion had the audience in their hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    Man, I'm sorry for those of you who missed out on Brave at the weekends. I don't think I'm rubbing it in to reiterate how mesmerizing it was, because I'm sure you know that it would be anyway. The band fired on all cylinders, and Hogarth was very theatrical. At one point when he was 'going crazy', some men in white coats came to drag him off, and he fought it so hard I was momentarily convinced it was real. The Great Escape was the best rendition I've seen, it had a different feel with the whole album building up to it like that. I so wish I could relive that show!
    You can be happy for me (not sorry.) I wish you could relive it too. Most Marillion shows I'd want to relive too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    The afternoon before the show, we went to Brutopia to watch Pete play an Edison's Children set, which was good fun. The night before (night #1) was the Radiation album live plus a bunch of other tracks (they opened, of course, with Montréal), and although I like that album more than most fans seem to, it just couldn't hold a candle to night #2. Night #3 went on and on, with the Montréal crowd refusing to leave without a third encore, so they came out and played Garden Party!

    An exhausting weekend (in a good way). The Marbles weekend would be a fairly close runner-up for me, but damn those weekends have all been so fantastic.
    I'll admit to wanting to see Edison's Children live. Hope I have the chance one day.

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    I was part of the pre-order Marbles campaign and was greatly rewarded when I got the page with my name on it signed by Los Trios Marillos at a free performance at Tower Records in Philly a year after the Marbles tour.I have other signed items as well.Marillion has always been cool with the fans in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by loshammeros View Post
    I was part of the pre-order Marbles campaign and was greatly rewarded when I got the page with my name on it signed by Los Trios Marillos at a free performance at Tower Records in Philly a year after the Marbles tour.I have other signed items as well.Marillion has always been cool with the fans in my opinion
    I saw the “same” performance at Tower in NYC. A great day! Met Lucy Jordache for the first time, a bunch of us went for dinner and Margaritas after, then the Los Trios Marillos show at Bowery Ballroom. The kind of day they have in Europe all the time!
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    I saw the Los Trios Marillos show as well, at a really cool Toronto venue called The Mod Club (sadly closed now) where I used to see lots of great bands. We were right up front center, leaning on the stage. Met the guys before the show and chatted for a while. Hogarth started telling a joke on stage about a Scotsman, and someone in the crowd shouted "FISH!" which made him groan, and Steve Rothery got the giggles and couldn't stop! Fun show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    I saw the “same” performance at Tower in NYC. A great day! Met Lucy Jordache for the first time, a bunch of us went for dinner and Margaritas after, then the Los Trios Marillos show at Bowery Ballroom. The kind of day they have in Europe all the time!
    I was at the Bowery Ballroom show as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by loshammeros View Post
    I was at the Bowery Ballroom show as well
    At that point it was nice to see them somewhere other than Webster Hall! Although it’s a similar venue.
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    I do like FEAR, but BRAVE and AOS are my timeless Marillion albums. I so much look forward to their new album!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I think it's great Marillion is still writing/recording new material, and touring(when they can again).
    I've been a fan for decades including the Fish era, and have loved what Hogarth has added to the band.
    But for me, everything after Marbles has been pretty much the same formula, and I didn't even bother picking up FEAR.
    I bought the Live at Royal Albert Hall, and it's wonderful to see them reach that peak in their career, but if I grab a Marillion Live DVD, it's usually one of the older Weekend DVD set.

    It's similar to how I feel about Dreamtheater, I bought every new release, but after awhile, even towards the end when Portnoy was still with them, it all sounds recycled and same-o, to the point, you might as well put on one of the older albums.
    Same for me with Marillion.
    They would have to do something radically different musically to catch my attention again.

    Not a knock on anyone else's feelings about Marillion, just my own POV for myself and what I like to hear from them.

    Thanks for posting this Koreabruce.
    Did you see the first show in the US (1990) that was Fish material, because he wouldn’t tour and Hogarth replaced him? The Hogarth looked a lot like Peter Gabriel, but with way more energy than anytime I saw Gabe. It was a relatively small venue, Hammerjacks in Bmore. Apparently, Chris Buckley saw the show at Bogarts in Cincinnati. One of my fond memories of that time. Most posts here refer to Clutching as a fav. I first saw Fish Marillion on MTV, the video Kayleigh. It got my interest and I bought the import in New Haven of Misplaced Childhood. I live in a void of prog at the time, and it was formative for me. I liked Clutching too, but my fav cemented my taste. Not been thrilled with the Hogarth sound since then, but maybe I haven’t had the chance to give Brave a listen, so I will. Hogarth was on fire when I saw him in 90, not to mention the band.
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