2021 Rock n Roll Hall of Fame

[Gruno]

Still no Iron Maiden with the Foo Fighters in ahead of them, nuts.

Yeah, the sham that is this thing, eh? It's just one big cluster.

[Scott Bails]

I would have put Night Ranger in before the Go-Gos

[Rajaz]

Still no Iron Maiden with the Foo Fighters in ahead of them, nuts.

This RRHOF is a sham and farce. Specially when it comes to heavy metal, they have hardly ever recognized that genre. The very few fortunate are Black Sabbath, Metallica, Deep Purple and maybe Rush (at their beginnings)

But the snubs are even worse with Progressive artists, just to think that these bands are still waiting way beyond 25 years: Jethro Tull, ELP, Tangerine Dream, Alan Parsons project, Kansas, Styx, KING CRIMSON, Camel, Renaissance and Marillion! Just to name a few, there are lots more but that goes to show how dumb, ignorant and clueless the Hall really is.

[Crawford Glissadevil]

Still no Iron Maiden with the Foo Fighters in ahead of them, nuts.

A good example of "regular" music would be the Foo Fighters.

[Frumious B]

The Foo Fighters were never not going to be a first ballot inductee. I’m not even a fan, but Dave Grohl probably has enough votes to clinch just in his phone contacts. Can you just imagine the names in his messaging app? I’m happy to see Billy Preston honored and, especially, Randy Rhoads.

[Dan Roth]

John Sykes, chairman of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, was interviewed by Billboard. He addressed all of the non-rock artists in the Hall:

Sykes: I have told the board and all our committees that we have an ongoing commitment to honor the artists who really created the sound of youth culture. That means rock and roll as well as hip-hop, R&B and rap. In order to be relevant, the Rock Hall has to evolve with the music that is impacting youth culture. That was the platform that the Hall was built on in the first place.

Just like any artist must evolve in their career, so should the Hall of Fame. Rock and roll was the music for so many years that moved youth culture. It still is part of it, but now you have hip-hop and rap that really is part of that.

The Hall has already inducted artists beyond just the rock and roll genre and this year we continue that with not only with Jay-Z, but also the special committee awards honoring LL Cool J [award for musical excellence] and Gil Scott-Heron [early influence award]. What we’re seeing now is the emergence of rap and hip-hop being recognized not only in the performer category but also in the special committee categories.

What I’m really impressed with proud of is that this year’s class is amazingly diverse. Three out of six performers – The Go-Go’s, Carole King and Tina Turner – are women. You’ve got a first-ballot hip-hop artist, Jay-Z, going in. You’ve got a first-ballot rock band, Foo Fighters, going in. It shows how diverse the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has become. Our mandate, which started out as purely rock and roll, [has become] to honor the artists that have moved and changed the sound of young America.

Billboard: Have you toyed with the idea of changing the name to reflect the Hall’s new broader outlook or is the name too well established?

Sykes: I think because the Hall has naturally evolved because of the nominating committee and the emergence of new forms of music that it kind of evolves into that. There’s no reason to flip a light switch and change the name. Our behavior will define the name. The artists we induct will define the name.

[Wah3]

Unfortunately that's John Sykes the co-founder of MTV, not John Sykes the guitarist of Thin Lizzy, Whitesnake and Blue Murder.

[mozo-pg]

We need a Progressive Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. Yeah, that's the ticket.

[Digital_Man]

We need a Progressive Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. Yeah, that's the ticket.

There was some kind of progressive rock hall of fame thing about ten years ago or so (maybe a little more) online. Maybe some on here remember it. It basically imploded and in my opinion that probably happened because it seemed too focused on making money from it's members. I don't think it was a pyramid scheme or anything like that but I think making profit from those who joined took priority over promoting or celebrating prog and I think that's ultimately what led to it's downfall (all imo of course). The closest thing we have to that now is the PROG awards put on by PROG magazine which is good enough afaic.

[ronmac]

Then call it the Evolving Music Hall of Fame.

[Scott Bails]

Can't wait until they're inducting DJs and dub step artists.

[3LockBox]

Chemical Bros, Deadmaus and Daft Punk are automatic first year eligibility inductees for sure

[Gruno]

Can't wait until they're inducting DJs and dub step artists.

That's hot.

[3LockBox]

That's hot.

Glad to see her rebound from her very short amateur porn video career

[NogbadTheBad]

Chemical Bros, Deadmaus and Daft Punk are automatic first year eligibility inductees for sure

I'm OK with Chemical Bros and Daft Punk.

[ronmac]

Can't wait until they're inducting DJs and dub step artists.

And the guy who invented autotune.

[Frumious B]

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[SunRunner2]

Can't wait until they're inducting DJs and dub step artists.

Plenty of fine, deserving artists to consider in the DJ/Trance/Electronica categories including but not limited to:

Paul Oakenfold
Paul Van Dyke
John Digweed
Sasha
Deadmau5 (as alluded to above)
David Guetta
Deep Dish
Thievery Corporation

and others...

These artists didn't just mix and remix music; they created, wrote, produced it and oftentimes played it.

[aith01]

^ I would also say BT deserves a mention. He’s made some really good music, and This Binary Universe is something akin to electro-classical. For lack of a better term.

Anyway, it’s outstanding.

[progmatist]

This is all anyone needs to know: the first time the HOF held a popular vote for inductees, Yes won by a wide margin. Yet, the HOF overruled that vote and refused to induct Yes the first time around. The HOF only relented in subsequent years, finally inducting Yes. Even then, perhaps only due to public pressure.

[Scrotum Scissor]

It's important.

[moecurlythanu]

Plenty of fine, deserving artists to consider in the DJ/Trance/Electronica categories including but not limited to:

Deep Dish

I'm a big fan of Deep Dish.


What? We're not talking about pizza?

[The Dark Elf]

John Sykes, chairman of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, was interviewed by Billboard. He addressed all of the non-rock artists in the Hall:

Sykes: I have told the board and all our committees that we have an ongoing commitment to honor the artists who really created the sound of youth culture. That means rock and roll as well as hip-hop, R&B and rap. In order to be relevant, the Rock Hall has to evolve with the music that is impacting youth culture. That was the platform that the Hall was built on in the first place.

Just like any artist must evolve in their career, so should the Hall of Fame. Rock and roll was the music for so many years that moved youth culture. It still is part of it, but now you have hip-hop and rap that really is part of that.

The Hall has already inducted artists beyond just the rock and roll genre and this year we continue that with not only with Jay-Z, but also the special committee awards honoring LL Cool J [award for musical excellence] and Gil Scott-Heron [early influence award]. What we’re seeing now is the emergence of rap and hip-hop being recognized not only in the performer category but also in the special committee categories.

What I’m really impressed with proud of is that this year’s class is amazingly diverse. Three out of six performers – The Go-Go’s, Carole King and Tina Turner – are women. You’ve got a first-ballot hip-hop artist, Jay-Z, going in. You’ve got a first-ballot rock band, Foo Fighters, going in. It shows how diverse the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has become. Our mandate, which started out as purely rock and roll, [has become] to honor the artists that have moved and changed the sound of young America.

Billboard: Have you toyed with the idea of changing the name to reflect the Hall’s new broader outlook or is the name too well established?

Sykes: I think because the Hall has naturally evolved because of the nominating committee and the emergence of new forms of music that it kind of evolves into that. There’s no reason to flip a light switch and change the name. Our behavior will define the name. The artists we induct will define the name.

In other words, Country music can have its own hall, Blues can have its own hall, R&B/Soul can have its own hall and Hip Hop can have its own hall (which they all do, each catering to its own specific genre and culture) -- but f*ck rock and roll, because we want to homogenize, pasteurize and revise the hall to make money, market and sell seats around tables. Do me a favor, flip the switch and make it a POP Hall. Jay-Z in the RRHOF? Foo Fighters first ballot - why? What a f*cking joke.

[SunRunner2]

^ I would also say BT deserves a mention. He’s made some really good music, and This Binary Universe is something akin to electro-classical. For lack of a better term.

Anyway, it’s outstanding.

Good point, he has made some great music over the years including Ima, which featured Tori Amos on the vocal tracks.

[JJ88]

The Foo Fighters were never not going to be a first ballot inductee. I’m not even a fan, but Dave Grohl probably has enough votes to clinch just in his phone contacts. Can you just imagine the names in his messaging app?

Sure but I've never sensed Foo Fighters have had much influence compared with Grohl's previous band. FF are just kind of there.

What I’m really impressed with proud of is that this year’s class is amazingly diverse. Three out of six performers – The Go-Go’s, Carole King and Tina Turner – are women. You’ve got a first-ballot hip-hop artist, Jay-Z, going in. You’ve got a first-ballot rock band, Foo Fighters, going in. It shows how diverse the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has become. Our mandate, which started out as purely rock and roll, [has become] to honor the artists that have moved and changed the sound of young America.

Billboard: Have you toyed with the idea of changing the name to reflect the Hall’s new broader outlook or is the name too well established?

Sykes: I think because the Hall has naturally evolved because of the nominating committee and the emergence of new forms of music that it kind of evolves into that. There’s no reason to flip a light switch and change the name. Our behavior will define the name. The artists we induct will define the name.

But Carole King and Tina Turner were already there in some capacity- and rightly so.

I think rock bands who peaked in popularity during this century don't look like they will have the lasting impact of their twentieth century forebears. Rock has long been a genre whose best days are behind it. They are coming to terms with the name of the institution being an issue in that regard.