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    Islands is only starting to grow on me after three or four listens because I'm just now getting used to the shorter song format or the absence of motifs that I hear throughout the record. On the other hand and as far as comfort prog goes, the Forevermore version (the only one I've listened to so far) hit all the marks right away. That might be because it's formulaic, but then again people read series Mystery because it's formulaic. It's got big melodies, a lot of Roine's singing and playing, and generally some of the epic things I didn't hear on the Flower Kings album.
    No matter what anyone says, you are the decider of how you will listen to music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    I much prefer the Waiting For Miracles album to Islands. I find the songs much more melodic with no throwaway tracks on it like lots of their albums.
    I just listened to Islands again and I think I still have to give the nod to Miracles for the reason that "less is more". That said, I think disc 2 of Islands is fairly strong, and if I could make a 50 minute album consisting of the best tracks from Islands, it would rival Miracles imo.
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    I ordered the magenta 2 x vinyl from Neal’s site for the Breath of Life version. I really love this album! Great sound and memorable hooks that stick in your head (for good reasons!). Another great release. Came with the CD too.




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    Still haven't gotten mine from Radiant... is anyone else still waiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by awebert View Post
    Still haven't gotten mine from Radiant... is anyone else still waiting?
    I also am waiting on my order from Radiant of the Ultimate Set (but I did get a notice it was shipped on Monday so its on the way, estimated delivery March 1)
    Fortunately I also ordered from Roine's shop and got those individual CDs several days before release date so I've been listening and loving it for weeks now. Still only listening to BoL version.
    Hopefully you get it soon, it is worth the wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightwave View Post
    Came with the CD too.


    One of my favorite features of Inside Out vinyl releases.

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    This is not meant to sound as judgmental as it will (and it's off-topic to boot!), but why do so many vinyl buyers care what color vinyl their disks are? I can see having a preference when you're provided a choice, but why are there often so many choices? Are there people collecting each color vinyl of an individual album? The number of choices on Bandcamp for some releases seems excessive to me.

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    ^ Collector's items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    ^ Collector's items.
    But what's with the ones that come out in three different colors - plus black? Are people collecting the full set of colors?

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    ^ Some people undoubtedly are, and that way the artist can double or triple their revenue. It might be cynical, but I guess for some it really makes a difference.

    The whole collectors market is an interesting one. I love the occasional box set and will often justify the price to myself by saying “oh this will be worth more on the collectors market one day”, but then I never cash in on them, so it’s all mind games with myself! I would only buy one version of a vinyl release though, but am a sucker for a pretty colour. I still have my original Steve Hillage “Green” and clear “Rainbow Dome Music”, oh and a blue Wonderous Stories 12”. Prog, like Model T Ford’s, didn’t come in many colours back in the 70’s.

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    McCartney III had eleven different version between vinyl and cd.

    Just see this https://www.superdeluxeedition.com/f...mccartney-iii/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    This is not meant to sound as judgmental as it will (and it's off-topic to boot!), but why do so many vinyl buyers care what color vinyl their disks are? I can see having a preference when you're provided a choice, but why are there often so many choices? Are there people collecting each color vinyl of an individual album? The number of choices on Bandcamp for some releases seems excessive to me.
    It doesn’t matter to me the color to be honest. I like the color magenta and this album happened to be pressed on that color, so I purchased the magenta record.

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    I love colored vinyl but it doesn't really matter all that much to me. I would imagine that there are people who will buy all the color variants of a new record by a band they love. Why not??? It's only money!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunlight Caller View Post
    ^ Some people undoubtedly are, and that way the artist can double or triple their revenue. It might be cynical, but I guess for some it really makes a difference.

    The whole collectors market is an interesting one. I love the occasional box set and will often justify the price to myself by saying “oh this will be worth more on the collectors market one day”, but then I never cash in on them, so it’s all mind games with myself! I would only buy one version of a vinyl release though, but am a sucker for a pretty colour. I still have my original Steve Hillage “Green” and clear “Rainbow Dome Music”, oh and a blue Wonderous Stories 12”. Prog, like Model T Ford’s, didn’t come in many colours back in the 70’s.
    So many different music collectors who seek items for different gains.

    Some collect anything and everything with the band's name attached.
    Some collect only certain media formats, sometimes multiple formats (cd, vinyl, tape, 8-track, reel-to-reel)
    Others collects music/dvd only; obtains 1 of each.
    etc.

    Then there are those from the list above who go one step further and purchase multiple quantities for whatever reasons. Some may want to hold onto it as a possible investment, grab additional to gift to others in future, save as a backup, etc.

    The slippery slope is difficult to define. Just because an artist can press multiple version of an LP in various colors, should they do so knowing there is a subset of fans who are addicted to collecting? Does the artist have a responsibility or not? Is there a line (or should there be) between catering only to the known hardcore collector fanbase vs. simple supply & demand? McCartney as an example:


    Quote Originally Posted by Sterbus View Post
    McCartney III had eleven different version between vinyl and cd.

    Just see this https://www.superdeluxeedition.com/f...mccartney-iii/
    What was the purpose of so many variants? Just because he could? To make vinyl collectors happy/mad? To attempt to gain a fake #1 charting album by relying on the hardcore collectors that buy multiple formats & multiple copies?


    Quote Originally Posted by Flightwave View Post
    It doesn’t matter to me the color to be honest. I like the color magenta and this album happened to be pressed on that color, so I purchased the magenta record.
    Maybe this is the reason? McCartney wanted people to have a simple choice.


    Quote Originally Posted by miamiscot View Post
    I love colored vinyl but it doesn't really matter all that much to me. I would imagine that there are people who will buy all the color variants of a new record by a band they love. Why not??? It's only money!!!
    That's when it gets into the slippery slope even more. In 2020/21, artists need to recoup lost income. Some are turning to these multi-variation items. Is that right in these times? Is there a moral ground and what is it?

    It's a strange time right now for music.

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    Listening for the first time. Sounds like the guys, but the comments on Pete's bass playing are spot-on. Dude is all over the place on that thing! It may make the release for me- I'm getting a little bored of the TA sound. They're all really good musicians, but it's more of the same for me. So damn earnest! :*D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruno View Post
    What was the purpose of so many variants? To attempt to gain a fake #1 charting album by relying on the hardcore collectors that buy multiple formats & multiple copies?
    I hadn't thought of that!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Listening for the first time. Sounds like the guys, but the comments on Pete's bass playing are spot-on. Dude is all over the place on that thing! It may make the release for me- I'm getting a little bored of the TA sound. They're all really good musicians, but it's more of the same for me. So damn earnest! :*D
    Neal Morse is nothing if not earnest!

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    I finally got my Ultimate Edition (autographed by Neal) from Radiant Records today! Ripping the Blu-ray now... I may even give the vinyl a listen since I did just recently purchase a new turntable. But, I really have no intention of making this a regular thing.

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