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    Quote Originally Posted by rickm View Post
    Can they do a remix without the multi tracks?

    nope
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    Though I'm skeptical about the "up-mix", I have to say I was pleased with what they did for the surround version of Anthony Phillips' Field Day, which is only solo instruments so there's nothing to place in different areas of the room, but they used some kind of magic that gives it a definite in-the-room feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    Though I'm skeptical about the "up-mix", I have to say I was pleased with what they did for the surround version of Anthony Phillips' Field Day, which is only solo instruments so there's nothing to place in different areas of the room, but they used some kind of magic that gives it a definite in-the-room feeling.
    Agreed, but that probably would not fly with something as densely packed as Olias of Sunhillow.

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    That's why I'm skeptical and would need to hear good things about it before I shelled out for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    nope
    ditto

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Udester - Are there programs that allow you to isolate each instrument/voice/sound from a two-channel stereo mix and then essentially do whatever you want with those (like then essentially having a 24-track or whatever master for example)? Is this close to how the surround Gong You was done?
    I have no idea how it was done
    I remember a interview with Giles Martine years ago about how he de mixed or extracted elements recorded on the same tracks for The Beatles rock band game
    No idea how they do this these says

    But the way Simon Heyworth was able to separate does guitars and spin them around was mighty impressive

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    Since the 5.1 certainly won't be a discrete mix made from the multi-tracks I think I will stick with Audio Fidelitey Stereo SACD which sound really good:
    https://www.discogs.com/Jon-Anderson...elease/5332085

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udi Koomran View Post
    I have no idea how it was done
    I remember a interview with Giles Martine years ago about how he de mixed or extracted elements recorded on the same tracks for The Beatles rock band game
    No idea how they do this these says

    But the way Simon Heyworth was able to separate does guitars and spin them around was mighty impressive
    I always assumed they had master tapes in order to isolate those instruments for the Rockband game, but maybe they also use some mysterious DAW editing sound extraction program? Ill try to Google it...

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    I'll stick with the SACD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Udi Koomran View Post
    I have no idea how it was done
    I remember a interview with Giles Martine years ago about how he de mixed or extracted elements recorded on the same tracks for The Beatles rock band game
    No idea how they do this these says

    But the way Simon Heyworth was able to separate does guitars and spin them around was mighty impressive
    Maybe some of the same kind of techniques that they used here,
    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-37288784

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    If ever a remastered album needed a box set with a large format booklet for the artwork, it's this one.

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    Olias Of Sunhillow is one of my favorite LP's ever. It is perfect and needs no further alteration of any kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nearfest2 View Post
    I'll stick with the SACD.
    Me too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    Maybe some of the same kind of techniques that they used here,
    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-37288784
    I think they used Retouch by Cedar using demix technology – the ability to remove and separate sounds from a single track.
    See here

    https://www.abbeyroad.com/de-mix

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udi Koomran View Post
    I think they used Retouch by Cedar using demix technology – the ability to remove and separate sounds from a single track.
    See here

    https://www.abbeyroad.com/de-mix
    Yes, that's the same guy, referred to as "a guy who works in IT here" by Giles Martin:
    https://www.the-paulmccartney-projec...ter-than-ever/

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    I was not overly impressed with Audio Fidelity's SACD of Olias - sounded about the same as my Japanese CD pressing from many ages ago. I intend to pick up the Esoteric release. --Peter

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    Vinyl reissue for Record Store Day, July 17.

    https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/13389
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    Waiting for reviews of the psuedoSurround to see if I should bother picking up the Esoteric...

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    Apparently it is delayed. Had an email from Amazon yesterday saying delivery from 21st April - 12th May. Should have been here last week.

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    I got mine from Cherry Red a few days ago. Very nice package although the story is mostly too small to read. The cd sounds better than my old Japanese import but not hugely so, the dvd in stereo played thru my blu Ray player sounds good too, nice images of the artwork on screen. I don't have surround sound so can't comment.

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    Just checked cherry red and burning shed and both currently showing this out of stock !

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    Olias is very cheap and easy to find on vinyl. Can't beat the great cover art. I have the WB CD with a ridiculous cover reproduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alucard View Post
    Olias is very cheap and easy to find on vinyl. Can't beat the great cover art. I have the WB CD with a ridiculous cover reproduction.
    Still waiting for mine in UK. Estimated delivery shows 12 April. Ordered from Amazon.

    I am not too bummed out regarding tge artwork being g CD size, as I managed to find myself a copy of the vinyl album dirt cheap. It has a very small tear on the back cover. I don't even have a deck to play it on, I just wanted the cover.

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    There are two booklets in the package, one for the lyrics and one for a write up with pics and memorabilia, a pity they didn't include a plain text version of the story too but still have my treasured vinyl too so thats ok.

    Its good the vinyl is easy to come by second hand but kind of sad too..

    (As an aside I was just scanning a bunch of unwanted cd's into Music Magpie, the prices they are offering are pathetic.)

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