Steve F.
www.waysidemusic.com
www.cuneiformrecords.com
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“Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin
Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]
"Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"
please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.
Totally agree. It's a wonderful, wonderful album - and I would guess largely unknown to most of the world out there. It's become a Canterbury fav for me over the past few years - although I seem to appreciate the first four Ayers albums more with every passing year during the binge. The vibe on that album is just perfect.
If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.
"And it's only the giving
That makes you what you are" - Ian Anderson
I haven't had a chance to listen to it fully, but I definitely like it. Coming into all this having listened to SH first, when listening to ASN I focus most on the bits that sound like SH, and it kind of comes off feeling like demos or something. But that's overstating it, as it certainly has it's own more relaxed, freewheeling style. I think for my own, personal tastes I prefer the careful, crystalline, proggier sound of SH, but I'm surprised and pleased to find that I like ASN. I've known the band name for a long time and didn't know about the band's relation to SH, so I always assumed it was a band I wouldn't like. But that was ONLY going by the name, which was a bit off-putting to me.
Within just a few weeks I've bought everything released by both bands - all the CDs available, and the downloads of whatever wasn't available on CD ( I already had two of the SH CDs). So I've got a lot to enjoy. This music is one of the best discoveries in years for me! Especially Sanguine Hum - they made Neo-Prog respectable!
I hope you don't mind if you've seen this already in other threads, but I am just posting it around to ensure that anyone who may be interested can come across it
New Rascal Reporters album featuring pieces written in their prime Canterbury era - the mid to late 70s, at the tail end of Pigling Bland and beyond!
^ It circulated on some bootleg sites. As double cd it was released by the Highland label.
Hello! I have just joined the Forum, and as I have been on a personal Canterbury binge for the last 12 months (at least), I thought I would drop in to say how much I have enjoyed this thread- and 'binges' from previous years which I have been slowly working through. Don't ever stop!
^^^ Welcome Mr. Piskie. Please feel free to share your thoughts and feelings of the albums you have been binging on.
As for me, NP: Hugh Hopper 1984. I listened to this a lot when the Cuneiform re-issue came out, but slowly forgot about it over time. Dusted it off and even the most experimental tracks (Miniluv, Miniplenty) are flooring me right now. Really good stuff. Can't quite get my head around the fact that a major record label actually released this!
Gong and it's various offshoots have been central to my Canterbury binge - If I was to pick out an album that's been mighty pleasing me of late I would go for Daevid Allen's 'Good Morning'. I love the sound that he crafted with Euterpe, and the everyday touches such as the cockerel crowing and sparrows chirping that I'm sure he would have recorded at Deya. Of course, being Daevid the material flows from the ordinary to the cosmic and back again. Some of the best songs he ever wrote. I wouldn't change it, but I can't help wondering if you took the Gong Shamal album, Hillage's Fish Rising and this one and brewed them all up together what a amazing follow up to You we would have had!
Pulled out some more live recordings:
Hatfield and The North / Imperial College November 17th 72 (can be found on the site dedicated to Phil Miller)
This is historically speaking a great recording, unfortunately a bit short 34 minutes (sound is ok, great tape cleaning job !!)
It´s post Delivery and pre- Stewart Hatfield with Dave Sinclair on keys and Robert Wyatt and Lol Coxhill guesting (each on one track) It’s kind of a Hatfield & The Mole with more linear playing that reminds Matching Mole. You have classic Hatfield compositions but also some stuff that never appeared or in other forms among them “A Mewsing” a Sinclair composition featuring Robert that sounds like “Signed Curtain” and another Sinclair one “ “Watcha Gonna Tell Me which appeared in 1980 on the Caravan record The Album plus a Pip Pyle composition All Day Forever with Pip playing rhythm guitar.
(You can listen/download the concert on the Phil Miller site with liner notes by Aymeric Leroy from which I took the infos above)
Hatfield and The North / Tin Pan Alley, Emmen, Netherlands, March 29th 1974 (about 37 minutes , boot sometimes combined with other concerts) two of the tracks have been officially released on Hatwise Choice
This is one of the better sounding HTN boots, a soundboard recording. There are quite a lot of edits and it does not have a nice flow, a bit of a ragged listening even so the sound is great.
Dieter Moebius : "Art people like things they don’t understand!"
The original cassette - which I believe was Richard Sinclair's own recording... he had a habit of recording everything, and not just his own bands, but Matching Mole, Robert Wyatt etc. - had absolutely no info on where, when etc. It was my best guess that this was from this concert as a press announcement said Robert and Lol would sit in. I sent the rough transfer to a guy called Tom Phillips whom I trust as one of the best for cleaning up such stuff. So he "remastered" it, and turned it from stereo back to mono as it really was a mono recording.
Yes, it's an amazing document. The tape was either partly recorded over or started late, because the recording cuts into "Shaving Is Boring", but I'm not sure how much was played before it. "Shaving Is Boring" clearly isn't the kind of piece they'd start a gig with.
Calyx (Canterbury Scene) - http://www.calyx-canterbury.fr
Legends In Their Own Lunchtime (blog) - https://canterburyscene.wordpress.com/
My latest books : "Yes" (2017) - https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/yes/ + "L'Ecole de Canterbury" (2016) - http://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/lecoledecanterbury/ + "King Crimson" (2012/updated 2018) - http://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/kingcrimson/
Canterbury & prog interviews - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdf...IUPxUMA/videos
Doing "Bundles" now.
Been listening lots of National Health lately. I just LOVE Of Queues and Cures album! "Squarer For Maud" is one of my all time favourite songs.
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The secret behind that album's success, as I see and hear it, is the combination of intensely intricate compositions and an addictive joyous feel of live-in-the-studio rawness which disarms the fright of it. "Squarer for Maud" drenches this formula triumphantly, but little beats those first 2 1/2 minutes of "Dreams Wide Awake". You can practically seize the sheer bliss so evident in that organ solo, Pyle's drums swinging along like an ecstatic afternoon trudge.
If afternoon strolls can be ecstatic, that is. Needs some Laphroaig, I suppose. And perhaps a pretty gal.
The flute solo in "Binoculars" is out of this world as well. Pure euphoria!
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
BTW, what on earth has happened to the 'Canterbury Scene' page on Wikipedia? It used to be somewhat elaborate and systematic, but now there's only a shallow presentation of the term and its offset. As if someone has actively erased the previous information there.
Anyone know?
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
If you look at the "View history" tab for the page, it appears that some guy ripped out 5k worth of text last June because he had a bug up his ass about the History section of the page not being sourced.
"Squarer" is indeed a masterpiece composition imo. I made a Canterbury/RIO/avant CD mix years back which I still listen to occasionally and this tune was on it, so I've heard it exxxxxxtra amounts of times by this point. A truly beautiful, original, and daring composition. Probably my fav on Of Queues, but that's splitting bow hairs.
That's exactly what made me give up contributing to Wikipedia pages, when some watchdog reprimanded me for including (factual) information sourced from direct correspondence with the artist, and explained to me that, in contrast, anything sourced from some online blog would be deemed acceptable just because you can link to it.
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Calyx (Canterbury Scene) - http://www.calyx-canterbury.fr
Legends In Their Own Lunchtime (blog) - https://canterburyscene.wordpress.com/
My latest books : "Yes" (2017) - https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/yes/ + "L'Ecole de Canterbury" (2016) - http://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/lecoledecanterbury/ + "King Crimson" (2012/updated 2018) - http://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/kingcrimson/
Canterbury & prog interviews - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdf...IUPxUMA/videos
Jesus!
I'm an historian, and I can tell that this is essentially what's happening within Western academia as a whole as well. They 'pick/select' literature and sources/information from what "appears in conjunction".
These are f'n dangerous times, and I find them disconcerting.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
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