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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    That's exactly what made me give up contributing to Wikipedia pages, when some watchdog reprimanded me for including (factual) information sourced from direct correspondence with the artist, and explained to me that, in contrast, anything sourced from some online blog would be deemed acceptable just because you can link to it.
    You could take the deleted info and paste it into a text file, host the text file on Calyx, and then restore the material using a link to the text file as a cited source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    You could take the deleted info and paste it into a text file, host the text file on Calyx, and then restore the material using a link to the text file as a cited source.
    Pain in the rumpster but in theory could work....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Jesus!

    I'm an historian, and I can tell that this is essentially what's happening within Western academia as a whole as well. They 'pick/select' literature and sources/information from what "appears in conjunction".

    These are f'n dangerous times, and I find them disconcerting.
    Wow, I'm an historian too and I had exactly the same thought when I read that. The guy is offering first hand sources and factual infos dammit, hellllooooooo

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    Well, they have to be sure that people aren't just making stuff up. If you can provide a link to your source, it's obviously true, because, you know...it's on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    You could take the deleted info and paste it into a text file, host the text file on Calyx, and then restore the material using a link to the text file as a cited source.
    It's not necessarily Canterbury stuff in the strict sense. The example I had in mind was Cyrille Verdeaux/Clearlight. The argument centered on "Delired Caméléon Family" being a Clearlight album or not - it's not, but the guy insisted it was. I had a signed statement by Cyrille that it wasn't, yet the guy rejected it on account of it not being (Internet-) "sourced".

    I was luckier with the page on Cressida - despite not being properly sourced (although I credited my general source as being the fanzine Ptolemaic Terrascope), it has remained mostly untouched.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cressida_(band)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Jesus!

    I'm an historian, and I can tell that this is essentially what's happening within Western academia as a whole as well. They 'pick/select' literature and sources/information from what "appears in conjunction".

    These are f'n dangerous times, and I find them disconcerting.
    'My feelings' and cherry picking is the preferred method these years.

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    Again one of the treasures on the Phil Miller Legacy site :
    Hatfield and the North Guildford 29 / Nov/74 ( 62 Minutes)
    "This is a fairly ambient room mic recording, a spirited and lively performance but a little bass light. Some incredible blowing and re-arrangements here proving how fluid The Hatfields could be live." A. Leroy
    100 % Agreed, the whole mumpish part is quite different from the other recordings, a bit freer going into 79 National Health territory. This might have been one of the reasons of the split that Miller, Sinclair & Pyle wanted to improvise more while Stewart was more on the structured composed side, but in this concert the combination works just great.

    https://philmillerthelegacy.com/musi...-guildford-74/

    Billie Bottle & The Multiple will release a new record in may, already some tracks to listen too on the bandcamp site and a great video clip.

    Two of the older tracks from a tribute to Phil Miller the first with the melody of Above and Below and the lyrics a collage of Miller compositions





    and Cogs with a great animated clip from the forecoming record



    https://billiebottle.bandcamp.com/al...-other-place-2
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    Quote Originally Posted by alucard View Post
    Again one of the treasures on the Phil Miller Legacy site :
    Hatfield and the North Guildford 29 / Nov/74 ( 62 Minutes)
    "This is a fairly ambient room mic recording, a spirited and lively performance but a little bass light. Some incredible blowing and re-arrangements here proving how fluid The Hatfields could be live." A. Leroy
    It's not me who wrote that, but Doug Boyle. Doug was involved in the early days of the site, but then ran out of time and I took over.
    This being said, I wholeheartedly endorse what Doug wrote !
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    Canterbury & prog interviews - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdf...IUPxUMA/videos

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    While waiting for the new record I listened to some older Billy Bottle tracks, great stuff . This one is from Unrecorded Beam :
    "This mini-epic concept album, set to the poetry of American Transcendentalist, Henry David Thoreau, connotes nostalgia and whimsy, whilst pushing the experimental/free-improvisational boundaries; warranting its release with the longstanding avant-garde label, Leo Records. "
    Billie Bottle was a pianist in the Mike Westbrook Band and on this track you can feel the influence of Westbrook

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