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    The History of Yes Pt. 2- w/Henry Potts & Aymeric Leroy

    There is a thread for Part 1 already but I thought this one deserved it's own too, so watch this at either.



    We did it! We made it to the end! It only took....3:18 this time.

    To be fair, I added an extra 20 min of content today where we take a look at their ever evolving stage show before we dig into the rest of the discography. I'd never seen anyone find pics of nearly every tour's stage and look at them in a row, so I made one!

    This episode covers the Drama tour forward to present day, looking at each album and lineup along the way.

    Thanks again to Henry and Aymeric for the excellent roundtable discussions. We enjoyed it so much we plan to do another installment that looks at Yes splinter groups and Yes member solo albums sometime in February. Stay tuned!

    Time stamps for each subject are in the comments at YouTube, if you want to skip around...

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    Here's Part 1 for anyone that missed it. Debut up to Drama here-

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    Watched the whole interview through,some great inside info...great work Sean !

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    Sean, brotha, you're getting me with these interviews that run longer than The Godfather parts 1, 2 and 3.
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    Really curious to learn more about what each of you think on later day Yes. The stage show visual and discussion sounds very cool.
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    Caught it this morning. Interesting conversation.

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    I heard the whole thing until Magnification (included). Obviously less interested than the first part, but still relatively interesting nevertheless.

    I did watch the first part with the stage set up pictures, which reminded me that I saw Yes twice in the later 70's (Tormato era), then saw them 4 or five times from the Open Your Eyes onwards. I know I saw them once after the Magnification tour but it was in a much smaller setting (Cirque Royal)
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    It took two sittings to finish it but much like the first episode.. very well done.. Only piece I noticed missing (perhaps I just missed it) was discussion re: the proposed More Drama tour during that period that led up to Benoit joining the band for the Howe, Squire, White In the Present tour.. I always figured that weighed heavily with the inclusion of the Drama era songs into the setlist at that time..
    Looking forward to the next episode

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    Quote Originally Posted by happytheman View Post
    It took two sittings to finish it but much like the first episode.. very well done.. Only piece I noticed missing (perhaps I just missed it) was discussion re: the proposed More Drama tour during that period that led up to Benoit joining the band for the Howe, Squire, White In the Present tour.. I always figured that weighed heavily with the inclusion of the Drama era songs into the setlist at that time..
    Looking forward to the next episode
    Well, if the only major thing we left out is something that didn't actually happen, then that's not too far off the mark !
    I believe it was in 2005, or was it 2006 ? Anyway, the plan was to have The Syn, the Steve Howe Trio and White (with Geoff Downes having just joined) share the bill, and the "Drama" line-up (with Steve Nardelli replacing Trevor Horn) do a short set of their own. That failed due to visa issues.

    But this in itself didn't lead to Benoît being hired. This was the result of Jon's health issues just prior to the scheduled 2008 tour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Well, if the only major thing we left out is something that didn't actually happen, then that's not too far off the mark !
    I believe it was in 2005, or was it 2006 ? Anyway, the plan was to have The Syn, the Steve Howe Trio and White (with Geoff Downes having just joined) share the bill, and the "Drama" line-up (with Steve Nardelli replacing Trevor Horn) do a short set of their own. That failed due to visa issues.

    But this in itself didn't lead to Benoît being hired. This was the result of Jon's health issues just prior to the scheduled 2008 tour.
    You have a point..

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    Thanks for this - enjoyed it!

    One thing I wanted to add that was mentioned during the first segment -
    During the 1977 Going for the One Tour (my first Yes show), I do remember the projections on the screen behind the band, that you mentioned. What I remember (vaguely) is:
    - During Turn of the Century, there was a projection of a ballerina/dancer (in silhouette) that moved around the screen.
    - During Wonderous Stories there was a projection of a globe that was spinning, at the end of the song, the globe slowed down and stopped, and was transformed into an image of the famous Da Vinci "Man" (known as the Vitruvian Man)
    - During Close to the Edge, I remember flames being projected on the screen.

    Does anyone remember these, or any other images that were projected on the screen?

    -Tom
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    There is a poor quality amateur video of much of a 1977 performance in Scotland (Glasgow ?) - that was the basis of what I said about the projections. Great to have a first-hand account, thanks !
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    Hi Calyx,
    I have seen the video, but can't see much there, and was wondering if anyone else remembers anything. It's such a long time ago, and a vague memory, but I'm pretty sure what I remember.
    The projections (at least the ones I remember for Turn of the Century and Wonderous Stories) weren't like a film that takes up the full screen (or all of your attention), they were small projections that moved around the screen. I would love to see that again to refresh my memory, or hear if anyone else remembers.

    merci beaucoup for a great listen!!

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    I was lucky enough to see Yes, In The Round, in 1979 in Ottawa. We had third row seats! I remember vividly watching the band members moving around on the stage. I'll check out the slide show and compare that to my firsthand experience.
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    I have a customer who had a union job doing lights and sound at various venues ( he gave me a TALK tour crew shirt that my daughter wears to bed sonetimes). He said he hated doing spotlights for YES because often times they were in "the round", they all ( well most ) wore capes, and then you throw in the long hair, well he told me he had a really difficult time telling who was who, and who his spotlight should be on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvyesmusic View Post
    I have a customer who had a union job doing lights and sound at various venues ( he gave me a TALK tour crew shirt that my daughter wears to bed sonetimes). He said he hated doing spotlights for YES because often times they were in "the round", they all ( well most ) wore capes, and then you throw in the long hair, well he told me he had a really difficult time telling who was who, and who his spotlight should be on.
    It would probably help knowing a bit about musical instruments, wouldn't it ? The hair thing might be problematic had there been no other way to tell them apart than their faces, but shouldn't it be whoever is soloing (or singing) that dictates lighting cues ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Well, if the only major thing we left out is something that didn't actually happen, then that's not too far off the mark !
    I believe it was in 2005, or was it 2006 ? Anyway, the plan was to have The Syn, the Steve Howe Trio and White (with Geoff Downes having just joined) share the bill, and the "Drama" line-up (with Steve Nardelli replacing Trevor Horn) do a short set of their own. That failed due to visa issues.

    But this in itself didn't lead to Benoît being hired. This was the result of Jon's health issues just prior to the scheduled 2008 tour.
    Yes to all that, except I think the plan was to have Kevin Currie of White sing on the Drama section. It was 2006, I think... I haven't checked!

    During the 2005-7 period, Howe, Squire and White wanted Yes to continue, but Anderson wouldn't agree to anything. (I'm not blaming Anderson for that: he had his reasons.) So HSW considered various options for what to do. They appear to have discussed going out as Yes with a replacement for Anderson (someone from a Brazilian Yes tribute band, IIRC) and Wakeman, but that didn't happen. They considered ideas for doing something Yes-related but not actually usurping the "Yes" name. There was talk of a Xmas album that didn't happen. And then there was the More Drama Tour.

    The More Drama Tour had some antecedents in planning, other combinations of spin-offs projects. I think there'd been a plan based around Conspiracy. But none of those went anywhere, whereas the More Drama Tour actually went on sale and had rehearsals... But then it didn't happen. The proximal cause was a visa issue, but had sales been better, they would have just lost a few early dates and gone ahead with the tour. As it was, the visa complication became an excuse to abandon the whole thing. The underlying problem was ticket sales were poor. But the ultimate reason why ticket sales were poor was Steve Nardelli.

    Nardelli had promised there would be funding for a big promotional push for the tour, connected with a bit promotional push for Syndestructible, but none of that materialised, a recurring theme with Nardelli's promises. Syndestructible was delayed because Nardelli hadn't paid the production team/band, so they wouldn't give him the masters. The promo for the tour never came. A US tour for Syndestructible did happen, but it's notable that the album team of Stacey, Stacey and Johnson weren't on the tour, and it's notable that no-one on Syndestructible other than Nardelli was on Big Sky, and that no-one on Big Sky other than Nardelli was on Trustworks. A sad story. (But the good bit about the story is that The Syn got Paul and Jeremy Stacey into doing prog, as they'd wanted to, so today Jeremy is in King Crimson and both were on To the Bone.)

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    Wasn't Francis Dunnery going to be in that (or another) lineup of The Syn with Squire, White and Nardelli?

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    Wasn't Francis Dunnery going to be in that (or another) lineup of The Syn with Squire, White and Nardelli?
    Almost: the More Drama Tour line-up was to be Squire, Nardelli, Dunnery and Gary Husband on drums. White would've played with White and on the final Drama section.

    When the Syndestructible tour did happen, it was with White on drums and Shane Theriot on guitars.

    Dunnery was then back for Big Sky, with the touring line-up being Nardelli, Dunnery, Tom Brislin, Brett Kull, Paul Ramsey, Dorie Jackson and Jamie Bishop. That tour lasted 6 days before ending acrimoniously. Kull, Ramsey, Brislin and Bishop all went on to do more work with Dunnery, while Nardelli formed a new Syn line-up.

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    Another very enjoyable episode! Lots of information around Asia and 90125 that I didn't know about. I look forward to the side projects episode as well.

    Regarding the projections:



    You can spot the ballerina from Turn Of The Century at the 12:17 mark in this video very briefly, as well as Chris playing his fretless bass just after. Sure enough, at 12:48 you can see her again, moving from "across" the screen as thos was saying.

    Also in this video you can see clouds in And You And I visible at the 16:27 mark and onwards.



    Then, in this video, you can see the Wonderous Stories globe, albeit very dimly and only for a few seconds (1:21)



    In this one you can see the Close To The Edge projection which is only for a few seconds (19:39).
    These are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.

    That last video I linked is Hed G.'s tour compilation which mixes the Glasgow video with all available 8mm footage and, as such, is a far better representative of the staging than the Glasgow video on it's own.
    King Crimson Falkoner Teatret, Copenhagen 23.09.2016
    Roger Waters Palau Sant Jordi, Barcelona 13 & 14.02.2018
    Nick Mason's SOS The Half Moon, London 23.05.2018
    Yes feat ARW The Barbican York, 13.06.2018
    Nick Mason's SOS The Roundhouse 24.09.2018
    Steve Hackett London Palladium 11.10.2018
    Steve Howe The Albany, London 31.10.2018
    Trevor Horn Royal Festival Hall 01.112018
    Fish Islington Assembly, London 07.12.2018
    Steve Hackett Bath Forum 20.11.2019

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    ^ Thanks for finding those.

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    Thanks for the videos! Wow - I'd never seen the Turn of the Century one before (since I saw it live) . Yep, that's pretty much what I remember. Amazing to see that.

    Thank you for sharing that!

    Tom

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    Indeed, thanks! I never noticed those before on my grainy copies!

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    the symphonic tour opened with a projected animation by bob cesca. the band emerged onstage as the yes logo was full screen, I dont think all shows had this as the animation wasn't ready in time for the start of the tour, but it is the same animation that begins the symphonic dvd.

    also, maybe not worth mentioning but the 90125 tour had a short projection of a leader strip that you used to see just prior to the start of a film in actual projected movies, this was during city of love guitar solo and projected on the high end of the stage, but not on trevor.

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    ps, I've really enjoyed these "epics" guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popeyebonaparte View Post
    You can spot the ballerina from Turn Of The Century at the 12:17 mark in this video very briefly, as well as Chris playing his fretless bass just after.
    Cool vids, thanks. That's actually his Gibson Les Paul. The fretless was a Guild JS II.

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