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    Gismonti doing YES & Mahavishnu with Brazilian flavour.... 1974

    Hello all,

    Not sure if this fantastic album is known to many progressive rock fans, if not, highly recommended:
    https://open.spotify.com/album/5HQsY...Tu6-3WEabYj8yQ

    If you don't have spotify there is something on youTube:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKoj8zv_EHI

    A real unique voice in guitar world of the 70s...

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    Hey, Meidad, nice to see you around here again! Hope you're well. Thanks for this recommendation, I'll give it a listen ASAP!

    Hey, what are your thoughts about the new Decibel boxed set? I just came across it yesterday, and am wondering if it's worth upgrading from the MIO release. Probably your release is all I really need, but it's hard to resist.

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    I got Academia on vinyl at a secondhand store here in Oslo three years back, and it's sovereign bliss.
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    I got this album years ago based on your personal recommendation, I love it!
    Does he have any more albums in this vein?

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    Thanks for the recommendation. I'd, very mistakenly, ignored his pre-ECM work until now. Some really incredible stuff in there.
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    Aymeric, you should get "Academia de Danças" and "Corações Futuristas" ASAP.

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    Coraçoes and Academia are two beautiful records a must for any prog lover. I don't understand why they are so uknown. Highly recommended

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Hey, Meidad, nice to see you around here again! Hope you're well. Thanks for this recommendation, I'll give it a listen ASAP!

    Hey, what are your thoughts about the new Decibel boxed set? I just came across it yesterday, and am wondering if it's worth upgrading from the MIO release. Probably your release is all I really need, but it's hard to resist.
    Personally i think Decibel best music was done in the late 70's early 80's so new material i don't really correlates to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flytomars View Post
    I got this album years ago based on your personal recommendation, I love it!
    Does he have any more albums in this vein?
    Hi Erez, long time.
    One more great album with Paul Horn:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePYHTgftQlU

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIO Records View Post
    Hello all,

    Not sure if this fantastic album is known to many progressive rock fans, if not, highly recommended:
    https://open.spotify.com/album/5HQsY...Tu6-3WEabYj8yQ

    If you don't have spotify there is something on youTube:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKoj8zv_EHI

    A real unique voice in guitar world of the 70s...

    M
    I tried the Youtube link, but I got a "Video is not available" error. So which album was this, and what is the Yessong he does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    I tried the Youtube link, but I got a "Video is not available" error. So which album was this, and what is the Yessong he does?
    This link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKoj8zv_EHI
    works fine for me.

    Try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePYHTgftQlU

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIO Records View Post
    This link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKoj8zv_EHI
    works fine for me.
    Unavailable in America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits View Post
    Unavailable in America.
    and this vinyl rip?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vobUqH3OLvI

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    I saw Egberto about five years ago at the Carmo Church in Olinda, with Jaques Morelembaum on cello. That's the church on the cover of Carmo, my favourite album by him. Stellar night.
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    Carmo is indeed a very good one, certainly one of my favorites of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    and what is the Yessong he does?
    He doesn't do a Yes song: it's just, in places, Yes like.

    Good stuff, MIO Records. Thanks for the suggestion.

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    I think this album is pretty much a vinyl only deal and this short (kind of a prelude) section is all that's up on you tube. Dunno about this being much like Yes or Mahavishnu Orchestra, but on a good system it's a pretty intoxicating record in some ways similar to Per Un Amico
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7_C...hannel=crls432

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    Greetings,

    Thanks for the reminder. I haven't pulled out this one (Academia de Danças) in years. Will have to remedy that soon.

    Ironically, we had tickets to see Egberto perform (as part of a bigger series) in NYC in September of 2001 but the 9/11 attack, understandably, shut it down. I really wanted to see him live.

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    Is Egberto retired ? He doesn’t seem to have put out anything in several years. Online sources aren’t much help.

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    ^ At least he's severely inactive. This was dicussed in an earlier Hermeto/Egberto thread we had a couple of years ago, I believe.

    I just had a spin of side 1 of Academia, and it's a thoroughly fascinating piece of work. Completely one-of-a-kind in conceptual delivery, "academic" indeed but far less immediately cerebral than something like Mike Mantler or later Rypdal. Although less overly orchestrated, this is what I'd think McLaughlin was imagining as prospect on making Apocalypse the same year, or Zappa with The Grand Wazoo a bit earlier for that matter.

    There's little doubt as to which of these comes out as most memorable today. Academia De Dancas is lively in tone and reach, abstract in grandiosity yet to-the-point through-composed in formality, and almost unspeakably colourful in atmosphere. About as close as "scholared jazz/contemporary" comes to avant-progressive by 1974, I presume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Is Egberto retired ? He doesn’t seem to have put out anything in several years. Online sources aren’t much help.
    He is not retired yet. His recorded music output has been gradually slowing down over the years, but as far as I know he is still pretty much active in terms of live performances (not at this very moment, understandably).

    I have seen him playing live at least three times in the last 5-10 years.

    A recent-ish interview from 2019 can be found here (sadly in portuguese):

    https://sescjazz.sescsp.org.br/2019/...vista-egberto/

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    ^ Not THAT inactive, in other words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    ^ At least he's severely inactive. This was dicussed in an earlier Hermeto/Egberto thread we had a couple of years ago, I believe.

    I just had a spin of side 1 of Academia, and it's a thoroughly fascinating piece of work. Completely one-of-a-kind in conceptual delivery, "academic" indeed but far less immediately cerebral than something like Mike Mantler or later Rypdal. Although less overly orchestrated, this is what I'd think McLaughlin was imagining as prospect on making Apocalypse the same year, or Zappa with The Grand Wazoo a bit earlier for that matter.

    There's little doubt as to which of these comes out as most memorable today. Academia De Dancas is lively in tone and reach, abstract in grandiosity yet to-the-point through-composed in formality, and almost unspeakably colourful in atmosphere. About as close as "scholared jazz/contemporary" comes to avant-progressive by 1974, I presume.
    I remember in the old forum I have translated an interview with him from portuguese where he distills about his experience playing with Johnny Mac in the early 70s. He mentions that Academia de Danças inspired John to produce Apocalypse. He also mentions an early encounter with Herbie Hancock with both on piano. Herbie pulled his leg saying "that's not jazz" to his improvisation, to which Gismonti responded "that's not Brazilian music either" to Herbie's attempts at improvising over his music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    ^ Not THAT inactive, in other words.
    Fortunately not!

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    By the way, there is a book (actually a long, transcripted interview) where he talks about Academia de Danças. Very fun and very cheap internationally-available kindle version if you are inclined to learn portuguese:

    https://www.amazon.com/Egberto-Gismo...7706817&sr=8-1

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