JAZZ Discussion

[per anporth]

In memory of the great Tony Allen, who so sadly passed away this weekend:



It's fascinating how he gives these Jazz Messenger classics an afrobeat interpretation, which doesn't in any way "swing", yet which is still so evidently in the "spirit" of Art Blakey.

[Progatron]

Does anyone here have the expanded edition of Jazz At Massey Hall that came out quite a while back? I've still got my trusty old 1989 CD of the original release and I've listened so many times over the years, I'm afraid I won't like a new version, even with more material! That might sound silly. But lately I've been wondering...

[mogrooves]

RIP Richie Cole, a fine alto player who remained a bebop stalwart in a time of fusion and free jazz.

[Zeuhlmate]

Excellent album - Scandinavian tone:



Bjarne Roupé: guitar
Kim Kristensen: piano,synthesizer
Jens Winther: trumpet
Klavs Hovman: bass
Marlilyn Mazur: drums ,percussion (Miles Davis)

[Dave (in MA)]

Speaking of Mazur, I could do with an album's worth of:

[hippypants]

First I'd heard of Mazur, but I enjoyed it.

[Zeuhlmate]

First I'd heard of Mazur, but I enjoyed it.

https://www.thelastmiles.com/profiles_marilyn-mazur/

[Trane]

Speaking of Mazur, I could do with an album's worth of:

I did enjoy that, but this is so tampered with (echoes, loops and other tricks) that one can wonder if it's not just playback

What is this dude doing playing he trumpet in reverse ... or is he tampering with the mic's integrity??

[per anporth]

"this dude doing playing he trumpet"

You do know that this dude is Arve Henricksen??!!?!

[StarThrower]

It's Nils Petter Molvaer on trumpet.

[per anporth]

It's Nils Petter Molvaer on trumpet.

Haha! Of course it is

(I was listening to Arve's Places of Worship when I typed that )

[Trane]

It's Nils Petter Molvaer on trumpet.

I thought so, but it doesn't explain what he's doing on the exit site of his trumpet

[Dave (in MA)]

Molvaer was probably making some sort of vocalization that Bang sampled and manipulated and triggered later on. At one point in Mazur's solo she was playing over a looped sample that seemed to have been captured by means of Molvaer's mic.

Aarset and Bang in another setting:

[Zeuhlmate]

This deserved to have been on ECM...

[per anporth]

In memory of the great Tony Allen, who so sadly passed away this weekend:



It's fascinating how he gives these Jazz Messenger classics an afrobeat interpretation, which doesn't in any way "swing", yet which is still so evidently in the "spirit" of Art Blakey.

Here's a fascinating, & well-compiled, mainstream media article about the contemporary London jazz scene, which underscores just how important Tony Allen has been in helping to define it's musical character:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...baka-hutchings

As always, there are questionable exclusionary constraints at work, but in this case, I think that these offer interesting avenues for further exploration, rather than undermiing the article's thesis. So, for instance, whilst the absence of bossa nova rhythms in the London scene is a mostly correct observation, they can still be heard - eg in Joe Armon-Jones' work. And these sound an important echo to the last great wave of youth dance jazz in the UK in the early/mid-80s, featuring bands like Working Week & Kid Creole, contemporaries of Loose Tubes, for whom Latin swing & bossa nova were at the very heart of their music. (By contrast, it's possible to trace a South African township connection back to Julian Arguelles from Loose Tubes, or even to Alan Skidmore, with Ubizo.)

But the question is also raised of the thread of a distinctive British jazz "sound" - which I think can be found in the evocation of Celtic folk melodies in the work of artists such as John Surman & Colin Steele, & which goes back to Bobby Wellins, & the extraordinary "pastoral" mood created most famously on the track "Starless & Bible Black" from the lp "Jazz Suite Inspired by Dylan Thomas' Under Milk Wood". I think this pastoral sound is also a major factor within the distinctive jazz sound that emerged within Canterbury-related acts in the early 70s. In parallel with this, & possibly of clearer relevance to the contemporary sounds of London jazz, would be the Jamaican influenced jazz of Wellins' contemporary, Joe Harriot. Finally, there is the wonderful music that emerged from the F!re Collective in the early 2000s (Accoustic Ladyland, Polar Bear, etc), which was simulataneously influenced by UK punk music from the late 70s alongside contemporay dance music, especially drum 'n' bass. Again, I think this latter influence does translate through into the contem porary scene.

[XavGel]

Pretty cool stuff I think :
https://sinouj.bandcamp.com/album/la...oMZzAl3BT3Ne60

[XavGel]

Speaking of Mazur, I could do with an album's worth of:

Fantastic

[per anporth]

Pretty cool stuff I think :
https://sinouj.bandcamp.com/album/la...oMZzAl3BT3Ne60

Ooh - good shout, Xav - bought pretty much immediately

[NogbadTheBad]

Oh that is nice.

[walt]

Jimmy Hastings(saxophone/flute) has graced many a British progressive rock/Canterbury session.Here is a JH straight ahead quartet jazz session featuring his sax and flute alongside piano,doublebass and drums.Excellent music,IMO.Link provided, with short samples of music.JimJams is the title of the quartet album.

http://www.jimmyhastings.co.uk/discography-store/

[NogbadTheBad]

Here's a fascinating, & well-compiled, mainstream media article about the contemporary London jazz scene, which underscores just how important Tony Allen has been in helping to define it's musical character:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...baka-hutchings

As always, there are questionable exclusionary constraints at work, but in this case, I think that these offer interesting avenues for further exploration, rather than undermiing the article's thesis. So, for instance, whilst the absence of bossa nova rhythms in the London scene is a mostly correct observation, they can still be heard - eg in Joe Armon-Jones' work. And these sound an important echo to the last great wave of youth dance jazz in the UK in the early/mid-80s, featuring bands like Working Week & Kid Creole, contemporaries of Loose Tubes, for whom Latin swing & bossa nova were at the very heart of their music. (By contrast, it's possible to trace a South African township connection back to Julian Arguelles from Loose Tubes, or even to Alan Skidmore, with Ubizo.)

But the question is also raised of the thread of a distinctive British jazz "sound" - which I think can be found in the evocation of Celtic folk melodies in the work of artists such as John Surman & Colin Steele, & which goes back to Bobby Wellins, & the extraordinary "pastoral" mood created most famously on the track "Starless & Bible Black" from the lp "Jazz Suite Inspired by Dylan Thomas' Under Milk Wood". I think this pastoral sound is also a major factor within the distinctive jazz sound that emerged within Canterbury-related acts in the early 70s. In parallel with this, & possibly of clearer relevance to the contemporary sounds of London jazz, would be the Jamaican influenced jazz of Wellins' contemporary, Joe Harriot. Finally, there is the wonderful music that emerged from the F!re Collective in the early 2000s (Accoustic Ladyland, Polar Bear, etc), which was simulataneously influenced by UK punk music from the late 70s alongside contemporay dance music, especially drum 'n' bass. Again, I think this latter influence does translate through into the contem porary scene.

Picked up a few more London nu jazz scene records based on this article

Binker & Moses - Journey To The Mountain Of Forever
Nerija - Blume
Nubya Garcia - When We Are
Emma-Jean Thackray - Rain Dance
Yussef Kamaal - Black Focus
Kokoroko - s/t

[TCC]

Pretty cool stuff I think :
https://sinouj.bandcamp.com/album/la...oMZzAl3BT3Ne60

In my "wishlist": g r e a t !
Thanks!

[TCC]

Friends,

François Tusques is a "new" name added to my little "musical consciousness"; I'm beginning to explore his work and really love it!
I'm using this Bandcamp's article:

- A Guide to the Mind-Bending Jazz of François Tusques. -
https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/a-g...ancois-tusques

Any comments !:!


Thanks in advance,
Tomás.

[Zeuhlmate]

Sarathy Korwar -

[Grimjack]

Nubya Garcia’s latest: