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    Wow, that was a good read, thanks calyx! I want to hear the Phil Lynott track now. Listening now...

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    Nice job, gents.

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    There are interesting elements in both the Dan Hedges and Chris Welch books.
    It's been years since I read either of those two books... this pt 1-5 Basement tapes is very eye opening to this period of the bands history.. kinda makes those interviews where both Rick and Jon say it all ended in a bar in Paris highly questionable..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearHed289 View Post
    I want to hear the Phil Lynott track now.
    Wouldn't we all!
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    Interesting discussion..... Looking forward to part 2.

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    but I'm also sure it came down to the money issues alluded to in Sean's interview with you and Henry. I remember one of you mentioning "wives" in that context, and it would be interesting to dig more into that!
    The others alleged that Anderson or Anderson's wife spent lots of money from a band account that wasn't theirs to spend... or that is what rumour recounts. This seems to have remained a source of tension for some years with (as Aymeric said) Howe in particular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearHed289 View Post
    Wow, that was a good read, thanks calyx! I want to hear the Phil Lynott track now. Listening now...
    People have searched for the Lynott track, but it appears to have been long lost.

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    The others alleged that Anderson or Anderson's wife spent lots of money from a band account that wasn't theirs to spend... or that is what rumour recounts. This seems to have remained a source of tension for some years with (as Aymeric said) Howe in particular.

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    I'm sure this did wonders for their marriage..

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    Quote Originally Posted by happytheman View Post
    I'm sure this did wonders for their marriage..
    Notice how Squire's marriage went belly up not long after. I don't think Jon's lasted much longer.
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    Jon's (first) marriage lasted a good time longer: they divorced in 1995. In 1980, they had their third child, Jade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    Jon's (first) marriage lasted a good time longer: they divorced in 1995. In 1980, they had their third child, Jade.

    Henry
    Huh. I thought Janeeee was well in the picture by '95. But maybe Jon and wife 1 (Deborah?) had already been separated for a while (him in CA and her back in the UK?) Either way, Jon sure didn't let the grass grow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulrus View Post
    Huh. I thought Janeeee was well in the picture by '95. But maybe Jon and wife 1 (Deborah?) had already been separated for a while (him in CA and her back in the UK?) Either way, Jon sure didn't let the grass grow!
    They married in 1997. I vaguely recall she was around during the SLO period in '96. I think things moved fast and, yes, presumably the marriage had broken down before the actual divorce date.

    Wife 1 was Jennifer or Jenny; she's on Song of Seven and Animation. Deborah was one of their 3 kids, along with Jade and Damion "Circus of Heaven" Anderson. Deborah is now a film director and photographer, but has also done music: her solo album, Silence, is great. Jade was doing music, had a minor hit in Japan, but haven't heard much about her lately. Damion also does some music, but I don't think he's a full-time musician...? He's not done much lately beyond music for Deborah's 2013 film, "Aroused".

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    Interesting and very instructive SOAL session - even if I'd read Aymeric's Yes book (dedicated and autographed) when it was published.


    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    The others alleged that Anderson or Anderson's wife spent lots of money from a band account that wasn't theirs to spend... or that is what rumour recounts. This seems to have remained a source of tension for some years with (as Aymeric said) Howe in particular.

    Henry
    About taking liberties with band money, I remember vividly reading an passage of a book (I think it was a Classic Rock compilation of different books on different bands - pocket-sized book purple/red cover with white title) where Bruford was annoyed by the behaviour of Jon & Chris, which was part of the reason why he would've left.

    Chris would regularly empty the band's bank account to go buy himself stage clothes (which is technically "band business"), but without consulting and getting consent.

    Apparently Jon could turn a bedroom or apartment into a pigsty in no time, leaving half-eaten, pizzas rotting under his bed for weeks on end.
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    They married in 1997. I vaguely recall she was around during the SLO period in '96. I think things moved fast and, yes, presumably the marriage had broken down before the actual divorce date.

    Wife 1 was Jennifer or Jenny; she's on Song of Seven and Animation. Deborah was one of their 3 kids, along with Jade and Damion "Circus of Heaven" Anderson. Deborah is now a film director and photographer, but has also done music: her solo album, Silence, is great. Jade was doing music, had a minor hit in Japan, but haven't heard much about her lately. Damion also does some music, but I don't think he's a full-time musician...? He's not done much lately beyond music for Deborah's 2013 film, "Aroused".

    Henry
    Jane was definitely there with him at his Mother's Day show in Paso Robles (near SLO) in May 1996. I thought they had been together awhile by then. I think she was the reason he moved the the SLO area. She is from Santa Barbara I believe. (I'm from there too)

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    I remember reading an article that mentioned they met around the time Jon was making his "Change We Must" album - she was working with the producers in some capacity. That would be around 1993. I seem to remember I read this in an article that otherwise dealt with how Jon and his children, and his daughters in particular, had some sort of family therapy to deal with the aftermath of their mother (i.e. Jennifer) leaving the household, or some similar story. Seemed they weren't particularly impressed with her parenting skills. Jane(e) was also interviewed as part of the article along with, iirc, Deborah and Jade. I've tried to Google keywords but can't get my hands on said article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    I seem to remember I read this in an article that otherwise dealt with how Jon and his children, and his daughters in particular, had some sort of family therapy to deal with the aftermath of their mother (i.e. Jennifer) leaving the household, or some similar story. Seemed they weren't particularly impressed with her parenting skills.
    Well, nothing beats Steve Hackett's marriage to Kim Poor for true soap opera melodrama.
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    Thanks Sean, Aymeric and Henry for the very entertaining interview. I have already read Aymeric's book (got it directly with him when I was visiting Paris with my family, had a nice chat aux Jardins de Luxembourg while the kids were playing around; good memories from the pre-covid days) as well as Chris Welch's book. Even so, I still learned a lot from these truly well-informed gentlemen. Looking forward to part 2.

    By the way, what is the general opinion on Will Romano’s book on the making of Close to the Edge? Does it have any relevant information other than what has been described elsewhere (e.g., Bruford’s, Welch’s and Aymeric’s books)?

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    i find it notable that two of the most adept YES chroniclers in operation are people that got into YES by way of their second (and entirely different and unlikely) wave of success and then exploring their deeper catalogue almost by detour and sheer motivation/perserverence. i belong to that cohort as well.

    keep up the great expert work, gentlemen, it’s a pleasure to finally see you in person

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    Quote Originally Posted by iguana View Post
    i find it notable that two of the most adept YES chroniclers in operation are people that got into YES by way of their second (and entirely different and unlikely) wave of success and then exploring their deeper catalogue almost by detour and sheer motivation/perserverence. i belong to that cohort as well.
    Not really my case. Though I discovered Yes around the time of ABWH in 1989, I was immediately drawn to their older rather than newer work. I heard "Big Generator" soon after "Close to the Edge" and other 1970s albums, and srongly disliked it. In fact my interest in prog developed as a reaction to the "Eighties sound" that YesWest was part of. I still have nowhere near the same interest in YesWest as in the earlier incarnations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Not really my case. Though I discovered Yes around the time of ABWH in 1989, I was immediately drawn to their older rather than newer work. I heard "Big Generator" soon after "Close to the Edge" and other 1970s albums, and srongly disliked it. In fact my interest in prog developed as a reaction to the "Eighties sound" that YesWest was part of. I still have nowhere near the same interest in YesWest as in the earlier incarnations.
    fair point. i retain enthusiasm for both YES//east and //west but i was onboard for all eras by “big generator” and ABWH. YES was a discovery for me by way of other (neo prog) bands that continually voiced their admiration and how YES influenced them … as well as finally understanding the pedigree of ASiA …

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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    I remember reading an article that mentioned they met around the time Jon was making his "Change We Must" album - she was working with the producers in some capacity. That would be around 1993. I seem to remember I read this in an article that otherwise dealt with how Jon and his children, and his daughters in particular, had some sort of family therapy to deal with the aftermath of their mother (i.e. Jennifer) leaving the household, or some similar story. Seemed they weren't particularly impressed with her parenting skills. Jane(e) was also interviewed as part of the article along with, iirc, Deborah and Jade. I've tried to Google keywords but can't get my hands on said article.
    The article is on the Divine Mother’s (Audrey Kitagawa) website, Light of Awareness.org

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    I like/enjoy parts of Yes' entire career: 90135, Talk, The Ladder, Magnification, Fly From Here, and even Keys all have very nice tunes on them. However, I grew up with Yes as a teenager and was actually there for their 70s music. Nothing compares to the 70s. That's sublime.
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    I like/enjoy parts of Yes' entire career: 90135
    Which is 10 units better than 90125, I think we can all agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    Which is 10 units better than 90125, I think we can all agree.
    Yes, and ABWH (Arista catalogue number 90126) is 1 unit better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    Which is 10 units better than 90125, I think we can all agree.

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    Lol. There was also, I think, 90126 release, that was an alternative version of this album.
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