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    Tangerine Dream - The Sessions II and III CD/vinyl releases this fall

    Any TD nuts see this yet?

    I'm curious, they certainly look nice. But I'm not up to date on current TD goings-on.

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    FWIW if one isn't specifically after the vinal...all four sessions are already available on CD, in fact I know an excellent place from which to obtain them:

    http://www.waysidemusic.com/Music-Pr...939-prd-2.aspx
    http://www.waysidemusic.com/Music-Pr...977-prd-2.aspx

    I have all four, and they are very good. The most "Berlin" thing TD has done in many moons. That said...it feels less like "OMG PHAEDRA REBORN IN 2020" and more like a really excellent release from the DIN label, like one of the Ian Boddy/Mark Shreeve axis of bands (Arc, Redshift, etc.). Some of them are longer than a normal vinyl side though so I'm not 100% sure how that will work exactly.

    IF these strike your fancy, I might suggest checking out Thorsten Quaeschning's "Behind Closed Doors" series on Bandcamp. Extended synth improvisations in a very similar vein but with a variety of guests including Luz Ulbrich (Agitation Free, Ash Ra Tempel, etc.), Paul Frick (Brandt Brauer Frick, now in TD along with TQ), Markus Reuter, and more.

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    Sounds quite intriguing, based on the description above. Definitely something to pursue since they are getting back to the Berlin style and sound.

    Thanks for the heads up.

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    There's actually five of them out on CD, all excellent imo. Looks like Sessions II is a double vinyl, so I'm guessing the 48 and 45 minute tracks from the CD will each be split over the two sides of an LP.

    No idea though why they didn't start with Sessions I on vinyl, which I think is the best of the lot.

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    I heard the first four Sessions, and liked II, III, and IV, with III being my favorite. I didn't get into the first one for whatever reason.
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    This also happened very recently.



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    Oh nice!

    I will confess, fess up, admit. Initially I looked down on this version of TD, prejudiced by the lack of original members. But wow. This music (and more I have heard from this particular lineup) is very deserving of the name "Tangerine Dream" - much more than the Yanni-esque stuff they put out for a long time under Edgar's (may the Lord have him in his glory) leadership. I lot of that I just hated. This stuff... I like!

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    All five The Sessions in lossy MP3 at:
    https://www.tangerinedream-music.com...d/products.php
    Sessions II and III in lossless 16/44.1 at:
    https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/shop

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmartell View Post
    Oh nice!

    I will confess, fess up, admit. Initially I looked down on this version of TD, prejudiced by the lack of original members. But wow. This music (and more I have heard from this particular lineup) is very deserving of the name "Tangerine Dream" - much more than the Yanni-esque stuff they put out for a long time under Edgar's (may the Lord have him in his glory) leadership. I lot of that I just hated. This stuff... I like!

    v
    Yeah, it's an interesting/unexpected turn from the modern band. Not 100% certain it would have gone this route had EF lived to continue steering the ship, although his plan WAS to use the "quantum years" to move the band toward a more electronic sound (i.e. no more sax/guitar/drums as had become standard in the TD lineup by the end).

    I'm curious to hear what they do with Paul Frick added to the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vmartell View Post
    Oh nice!

    I will confess, fess up, admit. Initially I looked down on this version of TD, prejudiced by the lack of original members. But wow. This music (and more I have heard from this particular lineup) is very deserving of the name "Tangerine Dream" - much more than the Yanni-esque stuff they put out for a long time under Edgar's (may the Lord have him in his glory) leadership. I lot of that I just hated. This stuff... I like!
    Sounds like you haven't listened to TD since Jerome was in the band...

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    Not yet out, but probably sometime soon, is another of TQ's Behind Closed Doors that could be pretty excellent:

    TQ
    Harald Grosskopf (Ashra, Schulze, solo stuff)
    Paul Frick


    I also think I read somewhere that Ulrich Schnauss has something going on with Tom Middleton (ex-Global Communication). Given that the latter's "76:14" album might be THE best album of the 90's for me, that's really good news. But I can't find references to this anywhere so it may just be a rumor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropforge View Post
    Sounds like you haven't listened to TD since Jerome was in the band...
    Drop's not wrong. They've been pretty far removed from that era of the band for a while now.

    This is composed, but is still pretty excellent:



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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    Not yet out, but probably sometime soon, is another of TQ's Behind Closed Doors that could be pretty excellent:

    TQ
    Harald Grosskopf (Ashra, Schulze, solo stuff)
    Paul Frick
    Whoa! I love Ashra. That's freakin' cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropforge View Post
    Sounds like you haven't listened to TD since Jerome was in the band...
    Actually I believe that they stayed on the "Adult Contemporary" path way long after Jerome left - Some of the stuff where Thomas was already involved, with the sax and the multi percussion was indeed very Yanni... although not sure when they started veering back into electronics... Not sure if Edgar was involved in that shift... I jumped from the sax stuff to the current stuff..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmartell View Post
    Actually I believe that they stayed on the "Adult Contemporary" path way long after Jerome left - Some of the stuff where Thomas was already involved, with the sax and the multi percussion was indeed very Yanni... although not sure when they started veering back into electronics... Not sure if Edgar was involved in that shift... I jumped from the sax stuff to the current stuff..

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    It was brief but he was involved. He dismantled the larger TD lineup of the past several years (sax + drums + guitar, etc.) and put together a new lineup that was to be a more electronically-oriented version of the band for "the quantum years" which I think were meant to be the band's swan song of sorts. That band was the band you're seeing now, plus Froese of course. They only released a single EP and live album before he died though. After he died the current band elected to move forward and the latest album of new/original music was built around sketches that Froese left behind (for example, that's where Genesis of Precious Thoughts above comes from).

    There were some outstanding albums from the late era band, like Finnegan's Wake. It's not exact, there are moments on that album that sound like a cross between Ricochet and Convention of the 24 (White Eagle). Even though the band was represented by a big honking ensemble onstage, on record it mostly was down to either EF or TQ recording by themselves.

    For me, Froese was very much the George Lucas of Tangerine Dream. His vision is what empowered it to survive for so long, forging his own independent path away from the larger industry as he did, and his creativity is what sparked so much of what we love about the band...even as he was the first and worst to sabotage that legacy with highly-questionable choices (Phaedra 2005 anyone? Rockoon?).

    It's interesting to see the band morphing into their own unique creature in the wake of his passing.
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    Oh god...I just realized. I'm becoming to Tangerine Dream what Henry is to Yes. I'm that guy




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    Quote Originally Posted by vmartell View Post
    Actually I believe that they stayed on the "Adult Contemporary" path way long after Jerome left - Some of the stuff where Thomas was already involved, with the sax and the multi percussion was indeed very Yanni... although not sure when they started veering back into electronics... Not sure if Edgar was involved in that shift... I jumped from the sax stuff to the current stuff..

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    Who's "Thomas"? Do you mean Thorsten?

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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    Oh god...I just realized. I'm becoming to Tangerine Dream what Henry is to Yes. I'm that guy
    Worry not! I've been "that guy" for years. I finally toned it down a while back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    There were some outstanding albums from the late era band, like Finnegan's Wake. It's not exact, there are moments on that album that sound like a cross between Ricochet and Convention of the 24 (White Eagle). Even though the band was represented by a big honking ensemble onstage, on record it mostly was down to either EF or TQ recording by themselves.
    A bunch of the albums are indeed Froese solo albums under the TD name, like Views from a Red Train, which proved, for me, that Edgar still "had it." Definitely a surprise. I think Thorsten appears on one track. "One Night in Space" sounds like something from the Relativity era.

    I've got most of the Booster series and there's a lot of good stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    For me, Froese was very much the George Lucas of Tangerine Dream.
    Yuck! Let's go with Stan Lee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropforge View Post
    A bunch of the albums are indeed Froese solo albums under the TD name, like Views from a Red Train, which proved, for me, that Edgar still "had it." Definitely a surprise. I think Thorsten appears on one track. "One Night in Space" sounds like something from the Relativity era.
    I think originally Red Train was intended to be a solo album from Froese, but once his son left the band the decision was made to simply release the album as Tangerine Dream.

    I've never been 100% clear on how much TQ and EF actually collaborated. Most times, it seems the compositions came from one or the other. Whereas when Schnauss came into the band it seems like his songs were at least somewhat actual collabs with Froese.

    Either way, I thought TQ's contributions were welcome added colors alongside some of the more "predictable" compositional tricks that EF liked to employ.

    Boosters are loaded with some pretty cool/rare tracks. Some bits from The Keep, outtakes, lots of fun stuff peppered throughout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    I think originally Red Train was intended to be a solo album from Froese, but once his son left the band the decision was made to simply release the album as Tangerine Dream.
    Could be. Jerome's last album was Jeanne D'Arc (the one that features Linda Spa's return), and then there was Paradiso, Madcap, two of the Nagasaki* outings, and a few comps and another live release, and then Train three years later.

    *Speaking of, is there another instance of a band being directly commissioned to create a series of albums by a private fan-benefactor?!

    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    I've never been 100% clear on how much TQ and EF actually collaborated. Most times, it seems the compositions came from one or the other. Whereas when Schnauss came into the band it seems like his songs were at least somewhat actual collabs with Froese.
    The "entrée/garnish" method!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropforge View Post
    Could be. Jerome's last album was Jeanne D'Arc (the one that features Linda Spa's return), and then there was Paradiso, Madcap, two of the Nagasaki* outings, and a few comps and another live release, and then Train three years later.
    It's fuzzy now but I seem to recall there was a small insert in one of the TDI albums that listed upcoming projects including Jerome's 2nd album plus Views from a Red Train as an upcoming Edgar Froese solo album.

    But yeah, the timing is all over the place. Then again, around that time EF was spitting out an album roughly once every 24.5 seconds so....
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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    It's fuzzy now but I seem to recall there was a small insert in one of the TDI albums that listed upcoming projects including Jerome's 2nd album plus Views from a Red Train as an upcoming Edgar Froese solo album.

    But yeah, the timing is all over the place. Then again, around that time EF was spitting out an album roughly once every 24.5 seconds so....
    And he did release Dalinetopia under his own name.

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    Yep! The two Froeses dropped their albums around the same time. In retrospect, probably the first pretty obvious sign they weren't exactly seeing eye to eye.
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