Was watching this latest Live CD/DVD set (Selling England-Spectral) over the weekend and was so surprised to see Steve's mom so vigorous and well spoken at her age!
And Steve so graciously signing autographs and taking pictures with fans, a true gentleman and amazing musician as well.
I too have the digital Biographical book and am keeping it in my "bed" while enjoying it!
I knew it!!! It was not Phil that ruined Genesis, but Steve!!!
Or maybe even Kim's fault?
really bitter divorce, I guess??
It's not that much about Steve (at least I don't read anything against him in those yrics) as the need to do something new and redirect into a new direction. At least that's the way I read back then, and I still fill it's a valid reading
I always assumed that it was Tony that had much bitterness towards Steve (since I always assumed nothing went on in Genesis withput his consent), but apparently it's Mike that is behind it
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
I still remember one of the times Steve played NEARfest (think this was Trenton). A bunch of people were hanging out in the hotel bar / lobby area and there stood Steve right in the middle of it all, just hanging out and talking to people. He seemed very friendly and genuinely interested in talking to people. It just seemed very cool to me.
Yes, page 66/67. There's a typo there too "Van der Graff Generator" (twice in fact). Steve tells how he loved to move between the folks from Lindisfarne and VDGG in the tourbus. About the music he wrote: "Van der Graff Generator had an interesting sound, but for me Genesis' music was more special, with so much variety and potention."
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Down & Out lyrics (whomever wrote them) is the perfect explanation of why prog rock died by 1978. Corporate Rock, Punk, Disco, early New Wave were the flavors of the day. The Record company said to Genesis straight out, just like the Record Companies said to probably every other prog band or band who’s particular style was past the five year lifespan of any musical style, that Genesis had to know the score, that they are not getting any younger, that there were bands ready to take their place with a more commercial view and fresher face. So, boys, you best adapt to the times by writing shorter more accessible songs or go extinct.
If you look at pop/rock music since the Beatles, most genres and bands in those genres have about 5 years before styles change. Yes, these bands can still record, tour, but few get past that “sell by” date.
The Beatles constantly adapted to whatever style was happening at the time. From Chuck Berry type Rock N Roll, to Dylan, to Sgt. Pepper (Pet Sounds), Magical Mystery Tour and Psychedelic (Pink Floyd), to British Blues. The Stones did the same going from UK pop, to Brit Blues to Disco by the end of the 70’s.
There have only been a few big time artists that were able to last with only minor changes to their sound/songwriting. Eric Clapton, Elton John, Bowie was a musical chameleon. Not too many others.
John Wtton saw the same writing on the studio wall during UK as Genesis did in 1978. Better start writing hits boys . He got it right with Asia, and then Yes followed suit with 90125. If not for MYV, I doubt Asia and 90125 would have gotten any FM radio airplay and basically, Asia and Yes were 1 and done during the 80’s.
I’m just happy that prog came back from the dead and many of my favorite bands reformed, put out new material, and toured. They mostly have to thank neo-prog bands (Marillion, IQ) for getting us through the 80’s into the 90’s; Flower Kings, Spock’s Beard for the 90’s and 00’s, which then gave birth to a prog renaissance. I think The Musical Box was also a HUGE reason for prog’s comeback and they must have certainly influenced SH to start Genesis Revisited.
Finally, while Rutherford was probably the better “songwriter” during the 1971-1977 Genesis, Steve had the task of coming up with guitar parts that complimented and enhanced the music. That is “writing music.” Plus, after Steve left and Mike took over all guitar playing, he probably constantly heard criticism that he wasn’t as good a guitarist as Steve. Mike is a very underrated bassist, a GREAT 12 string player, and really the secret sauce to Genesis because he allowed Steve to not have to play rhythm guitar but instead come up with unique quirky additions. So, time for Mike and SH to kiss and make up already.
After reading SH and Tony dissing each other about SH leaving Genesis since 1978, it made me happy when Tony admitted what a great song Blood on the Rooftops is. Tony’s synth playing really added to the song. And as much as I like Your Own Special Way and Wot Gorilla, SH was right that Inside & Out should have taken those two songs place on W&W - one of my top 5 albums of all time.
Lastly, I LIKE MORE FOOL ME.
Brian Dennehy: "I'm now 80 and I'm just another actor and that's fine with me. I've had a hell of a ride," ... "I have a nice house. I haven't got a palace, a mansion, but a pretty nice, comfortable home. I've raised a bunch of kids and sent them all to school, and they're all doing well. All the people that are close to me are reasonably healthy and happy. Listen, that's as much as anybody can hope for in life."
^^ Yup, Adinfinitum sums up my feelings almost exactly. I haven't heard Inside and Out, though. Have to remedy that.
Always the way how I understood from the first time I sat down and heard the albums with the lyrics gatefold open on the first week it was out. But I didn't read it that the record label was saying it to the band, but rather thaty the band came to that idea themselves (and therefore took the time tto explain it to their fans)
Not sure if the Beatles followed suit, rather than create them, though.
Of course, it it wasn't for MTV, Asia wouldn't have sold neartly as many albums. Not that sure about Yes, though, for the sonic break was enormous between Tormato/Drama and 90125 (Owner of a Lonely Fart could've been a Duran track, for ex), much bigger than the sonic change between Danger Money and Asia's debut.
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
In Steve's book he mentions how he parted ways with Charisma at a time when they even hired that complete charlatan Malcolm McLaren as a 'consultant'. It was the musical equivalent of the night of the long knives.
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
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