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    MAGORIA - JTR 1888 - Prog rock opera project bringing the legend of Jack the Ripper

    A project by Knight Area guitarist Mark Bogert.

    The Cast:
    Peter Strykes – Inspector Abberline
    Maria Catharina – Mary Jane Kelly
    Zora Cock – Story Teller
    Nadine Pruim – Annie Crook
    Mirjam van Doorn – Queen Victoria
    Jan Willem Ketelaers – Prince Albert Victor
    Rodney Blaze – Jack the Ripper
    Sonny Pruim – Netley
    Inge Rijnja – Catherine Eddowes
    Koen Stam – Keyboards
    Mark Bogert – Guitar
    Harmen Kieboom – Drums
    Peter Vink – Bass
    Cleem Determeijer – Piano
    Bart Hennephof – Guitar

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    01. Whitechapel
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    02. Legend Of The Serial Killer Scene
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    03. Prince Albert Victor ‘Eddy’
    https://youtu.be/JK9Ok_50NJQ

    04. Mary Ann Nichols
    https://youtu.be/LFkTinKLKhs

    05. Abberline
    https://youtu.be/sDRlIHnfxrk

    06. Annie Chapman
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    07. Don’t Mention His Name
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    08. More To Life Than This
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    09. Queen Victoria
    https://youtu.be/v2Uk1BZyLiA

    10. Confrontation
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    11. Overture
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    12. Day By Day
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    13. Let Her Be Safe
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    14. Pub
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    15. Dignified Woman
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    16. Annie Crook
    https://youtu.be/WWvo6gFPPsk

    17. Catherine Eddowes
    https://youtu.be/VTO_fnRqT3U

    18. From Hell
    https://youtu.be/Dumr3sq4m-4

    19. Last Night In Whitechapel
    https://youtu.be/kyVVQccO6v0

    20. Mary Jane Kelly
    https://youtu.be/yClS14pgCa0

    21. Freedom of London
    https://youtu.be/RR3qL8EV9yc

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    Harmen Kieboom has to be one of the greatest drummer names ever.

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    It has the Murder by Decree plot line, which in turn was based partly upon the book Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution, by Stephen Knight.

    Sounds a bit like a prog-metal version of Sweeney Todd at points.

    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    Harmen Kieboom has to be one of the greatest drummer names ever.
    His dad or brother arranged the orchestra.

    And I can beat you on his name, though not quite with drums: There's a vibes player in NYC named Chris Dingman. I've never seen him, but have jazz albums he's on.
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    Saucy Jack!
    First thing I thought of!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
    It has the Murder by Decree plot line, which in turn was based partly upon the book Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution, by Stephen Knight.
    As an academic historian myself I'll have to say that although it inspired the general phenomenon of post-modernist conspiracy theory in European literary tradition - and especially as a token to perceptions of critical discourse towards power-complexes - Knight's novel remains a classic of incredibly entertaining crime-lore. That single novel, completely and creatively concocted from imaginary connections, generated turmoil beyond Von Dδniken's wildest and wettest dreams.

    I used to be a Ripper buff to certain lengths, but soon realized that this wasn't even remotely enough to be considered a "ripperologist". Those chaps are truly fanatically dedicated. Yet it remains a fascinating subject on all levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Knight's novel remains a classic of incredibly entertaining crime-lore. That single novel, completely and creatively concocted from imaginary connections......
    I have to confess that I never read the book: I saw Murder by Decree a number of years ago, started to post the comparison of JTR 1888 with it - then looked it up when I realized that I didn't know whether the plot-line was original or not.

    It sounds like a good one, though. I'll try to read it when the libraries open again. The whole matter of "imaginary connections' sounds like what Tim Powers does, and I'm a big Powers fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
    I have to confess that I never read the book: I saw Murder by Decree a number of years ago
    Oh, it's quite possibly the ultimate Ripper-film, starring Christopher Plummer and the absolutely wonderful James Mason in one of his finest late-era TV roles. Some of the scenes, for instance with the corpse of Catherine Eddowes falling in slow-motion from the wagon, are among the chilliest things I've ever seen in a TV production.

    I really wanted to enjoy From Hell, seeing as I admire Alan Moore and really like the Hughes Brothers, and I sincerely believe that Heather Graham's career was soiled by various pressure points as to her personal/religious/political objectives for choosing roles offered her (and I'm not going anywhere into that). But alas thought the whole deal was a wasted opportunity.

    Charles Allen Lechmere was the man, and that stays.
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    Oh man! Several of you beat me to it...'cause I immediately heard "You're a naughty one, Saucy Jack" in my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Oh, it's quite possibly the ultimate Ripper-film, starring Christopher Plummer and the absolutely wonderful James Mason in one of his finest late-era TV roles.
    I remember the somber ending in particular, with Holmes finding out the whole sordid, despicable business. Realizing that he can never get justice for any of "the Ripper's" victims. That trying to do so will only lead to his own murder, that of Watson, that of Mrs. Hudson, and probably that of everyone he knows; in an effort to suppress any dead-man's jack-in-the-boxes he may have set up - although he did set up enough of one to protect himself and them if he does nothing. And him saying something to the effect of, "If this is what it takes to preserve England, then God help England."
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