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    Hiatus - At 61 it may be time to pull the plug on playing live music

    Ok so I have only been playing out for a year. But I had two shows cancel on me this week, after things were looking like they were turning a corner. Both situations were "we are double booked" So, I'm clearing out my music gear, just going to keep a minimal setup. Returned a bunch of stuff I'm probably never going to use, and I'm taking a serious break. I always said when it stopped being fun I'm walking away, well, a lot of work, alot of practice and a handful of crappy experiences - weighted against some good ones.... I think I am done. We shall see. I was doing a lot of open mics, but the leap to playing paid gigs is taking too long. If it take a couple more years, I'll be too old to play. So... Break, evaluate, practice a LOT less, and stop wasting time with bookings - or attempts.

    If the weather ever gets decent again, I'll try to do some busking just for the hell of it, but this idea of trying to land paid gigs is stupid.

    This is not the Virus, a lot of clubs are stopping live music, but thats not my experiences..... Perhaps its just this cranky old man not willing to put up with the inconsiderate.... Dont say "come and play" and then tell me not to at the last minute. Glad I texted to confirm...
    I got nothin'

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    Even the clubs who still book live music want cover bands, not original music. Cover bands are all audiences want to hear.
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    I retired at 40 about 20 years ago. Second child was born, working a full time 50 hour job, and no longer relishing packing up the amps and guitars at 2 or 3 in the morning (not to mention helping the drummer pack up his damn 50 piece or whatever kit). Even back then, it was difficult to find spots where you could play original music. We actually had to change our format to more Irish/folk because in the Detroit area/Southeast Michigan, the only reliable gigs were available at Irish pubs. And if the other bars had not changed over to karaoke or DJs, the music they wanted (punk/thrash/whatever) was not in any way what we were interested in.
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    When you've got more years behind you than you have in front of you, it seems natural to consider what is really worth doing with the valuable time you have left on the planet. I know, I'm almost 62 myself. Now, I won't pretend to know what it's like being a musician, my guitar playing always sucked too badly for that. But if something ceases being fun, cutting it loose seems like a wise decision to me.
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    I haven't played out in about 14 years. I record at home with my kids who are both excellent musicians. We have a great time and do whatever we feel like. Post it on youtube and band camp. If someone likes it, great and if they don't that's great too. We do it because it's fun and a great way to spend time together. I'm spending the day tomorrow helping my son change heads on his drum kit and then we'll put some drums on some tracks the three of us have recorded. I'm 57 but I get that at 61, it's hard. I have a friend of mine who is 58 and his band just made their first CD. They are doing original music and are doing ok. No paid gigs but they are playing regularly so there is hope.

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    I just turned 65 and still love playing out. It's important to play music that I love and to have the gigs be satisfying. To me, that means having
    an appreciative audience. Money is nice, but that's not why I do it. In the current situation, it's hard to know when the next gig will actually occur.
    I can understand not doing it if it becomes a chore. It should make you happy. Besides the two bands I play in (as a bass player), I also
    play acoustic guitar in a ukelele sing a long group at a Mountain Mike's pizza parlor once per month. 20-30 people strum along and sing
    with the words on the tv. Great fun, as is the one rehearsal we do. I also teach guitar at two senior centers. There are many ways to
    enjoy music besides a band situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapidfirerob View Post
    I just turned 65 and still love playing out. It's important to play music that I love and to have the gigs be satisfying. To me, that means having
    an appreciative audience. Money is nice, but that's not why I do it. In the current situation, it's hard to know when the next gig will actually occur.
    I can understand not doing it if it becomes a chore. It should make you happy. Besides the two bands I play in (as a bass player), I also
    play acoustic guitar in a ukelele sing a long group at a Mountain Mike's pizza parlor once per month. 20-30 people strum along and sing
    with the words on the tv. Great fun, as is the one rehearsal we do. I also teach guitar at two senior centers. There are many ways to
    enjoy music besides a band situation.
    As long as I can compose I'm happy.

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    Sorry to hear about your travails Mr. Yodelgoat, but if it's no longer fun than I can understand your decision. FWIW I check out the live gig recording you posted and thought you did a fine job. I would be happy to sit around slurping suds and listening. Better to my ears than the typical pub music I've heard as of late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhabreath View Post
    Sorry to hear about your travails Mr. Yodelgoat, but if it's no longer fun than I can understand your decision. FWIW I check out the live gig recording you posted and thought you did a fine job. I would be happy to sit around slurping suds and listening. Better to my ears than the typical pub music I've heard as of late.
    Thanks for that. I was feeling pretty sorry for myself, but I have musician friends now who are going to really struggle just to put food on the table without any gigs happening at all now. (Tejas just shut down all restaurants and bars, gatherings of only 10 or less) So that puts my little pity party in its pathetic little-biatch-man place. I really hope somehow this changes something basic in the music world. I would love to play in the right circumstance again, but its likely that ALL LIVE MUSIC is done - certainly for a while and it could be really jacked for a few years while clubs and Eats get back on their feet. Will live music ever come back? Businesses have to be open and making money before that can even be considered. I may have made a choice that was then made for me 2 days after I made it. I was mad about clubs hiring and not honoring their hire. No one saw that they would be forcibly shut down by Govt... Somehow, this revenge isnt very sweet. In fact, My daughter lost her job because her restaurant is closed. Crap.

    If I find a nice place, When this is done, I may just occasionally play for free. I really dont need the money, but I do enjoy playing for people.
    I got nothin'

    ...avoiding any implication that I have ever entertained a cognizant thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodelgoat View Post
    Thanks for that. I was feeling pretty sorry for myself, but I have musician friends now who are going to really struggle just to put food on the table without any gigs happening at all now. (Tejas just shut down all restaurants and bars, gatherings of only 10 or less) So that puts my little pity party in its pathetic little-biatch-man place. I really hope somehow this changes something basic in the music world. I would love to play in the right circumstance again, but its likely that ALL LIVE MUSIC is done - certainly for a while and it could be really jacked for a few years while clubs and Eats get back on their feet. Will live music ever come back? Businesses have to be open and making money before that can even be considered. I may have made a choice that was then made for me 2 days after I made it. I was mad about clubs hiring and not honoring their hire. No one saw that they would be forcibly shut down by Govt... Somehow, this revenge isnt very sweet. In fact, My daughter lost her job because her restaurant is closed. Crap.

    If I find a nice place, When this is done, I may just occasionally play for free. I really dont need the money, but I do enjoy playing for people.
    I should remind you that you seemed enthusiastic about that new Boss pedal pretty recently. Maybe a little volunteer live stuff could help boost the economy once things start to return to some semblance of normal. Work on streamlining the setup and set list until that time comes?
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    Oh the Boss pedal is awesome, and it makes playing really fun and simplifies my setup. It replaces my mixer and outboard gear and makes it a breeze to get everything balanced.

    Playing and playing to audiences are 2 different things. I'm Just playing for myself these days, and its amazingly fun. If I screw up its only me who winces and I make a note to practice that part more. I am also going back and redoing my original songs live tracks, They should sound much better - Not playing out may be the best thing for me personally. I spent the last year mostly learning and practicing cover tunes, and I really need to get back into the originals. I'll probably have a really solid, polished show in a few months, that I can do on a moments notice if the right situation presents itself. Not that it will matter, but it will matter to me. If I build it, perhaps the right situation will come about, and I wont mind playing out again. I just need to please myself, not Venue owners. I remember when I started it was going to be all about my songs. The covers, kind of took over. I love every cover song I play, but its still not my own music.
    I got nothin'

    ...avoiding any implication that I have ever entertained a cognizant thought.

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    That's really what it's all about. Having fun and doing what you want to do. Some $$$ is nice to help cover gas, dinner, a few expenses, etc. But that's for those of us for whom it's not a career. I have a friends (husband and wife) who I played in bands with for years who now have zero gigs and since schools are closed they have zero income from teaching music. Terrible situation. I don't think they can file for unemployment.
    Just sitting at home rocking back and forth and jealously caressing my invisible collection of theoretical assets.

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    Most of the musicians I have talked to seem to be weathering this better than I had expected. I dont mean financially, this is going to kill their incomes. But they seem to be understanding that its for the best. I have a growing concern that this may never clear up. Once government has control, typically they are very reluctant to let go. I'm not judging here, but I am concerned that their are reported treatments that seems to have been 100 percent effective, and are being trivialized. My spidey senses are telling me that someone doesnt think its time for this to be over - yet.

    Cui bono? I have no idea who could possibly be benefitting from this...and I dont want to start any arguments... No judgement here, just a concern that we have gone a LONG way down a path that may be hard to get off of - when/if the time ever comes.

    I really want to see some live music again... Amazing how when you cant have something, you seem to miss it more. I was hearing (not just playing) live music 3-4 nights a week and now I am going thru serious withdrawals.
    I got nothin'

    ...avoiding any implication that I have ever entertained a cognizant thought.

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    Have you ever thought about playing live comfortably from home online, like on twitch? Then you could really focus on your original material too.
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