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    Quote Originally Posted by SunRunner2 View Post
    Are you sure? I would tend to gravitate more toward 6, 7 and 8, as 5 was more conventional and certainly less "prog" than 8, which was one of his more unconventional compositions. Sure, 5 gets all the modern playing in films, TV ads and during sporting events, which testifies to its more pop oriented influences. But, for prog brilliance in 3 stretch compositional releases, got to go with 6-7-8.

    1901–02: Symphony No. 5
    1903–04: Symphony No. 6 in A minor
    1904–05: Symphony No. 7
    1906–07: Symphony No. 8 in E-flat
    Yeah, I'm sure. Ranking Mahler's symphonies are pretty impossible - they are all great and some resonate more than others for personal reasons. As to the comment for M5 being "pop oriented"....ummmm....I'm note sure what that means? Yes the adagietto is probably his most famous single movement (maybe along with M1 3rd mvt.) but in that I don't hear "pop", even by Mahler standards. The other thing is that I personally don't need "proginess" in Mahler to enjoy his music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Yeah, I'm sure. Ranking Mahler's symphonies are pretty impossible - they are all great and some resonate more than others for personal reasons. As to the comment for M5 being "pop oriented"....ummmm....I'm note sure what that means? Yes the adagietto is probably his most famous single movement (maybe along with M1 3rd mvt.) but in that I don't hear "pop", even by Mahler standards. The other thing is that I personally don't need "proginess" in Mahler to enjoy his music.
    Your points are well made. Regarding the "Pop oriented" comment, I was using that as a metaphor for the terms used often on this site and other. However, these quotes from reviews of M5 appear to support that description somewhat:

    "The symphony is generally regarded as the most conventional symphony that he had yet written."
    "The fourth movement may be Mahler's most famous composition and is the most frequently performed of his works".
    "Although the Adagietto had regularly been performed on its own, it came to popular (i.e. non-classical) prominence in the 1971 Luchino Visconti film Death in Venice".
    "Since then, the music has been used across many fields, from advertising and figure skating to television and further film uses, easily making it the most familiar piece of Mahler's musical output".

    As to the "proginess" (again, term used loosely) of M8:

    "Although the symphony is often described as being in the key of E minor, its tonal scheme is more complicated. The symphony's first movement moves from B minor (introduction) to E minor, and the work ends with a rondo finale in C major. Thus, as Dika Newlin has pointed out, "in this symphony Mahler returns to the ideal of 'progressive tonality' which he had abandoned in the Sixth". The complexity of the work's tonal scheme was analysed in terms of "interlocking structures" by Graham George".

    Of course, as testified by the plethora of 3 album stretch offerings throughout this lengthy thread, it's pretty much subject to what the posters musical tastes dictate. I think that the original poster described what was meant by asking the prog council for "best three album stretch of brilliance in prog"?

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    ok mate. I'm going to whitewash you, since you asked for it

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    Unless you give me some of how mundane of an album A Kind Of Blue is
    Ah well, if we're including acoustic jazz in the thread then it's a different ballgame!

    I think Crescent is my favourite of all the "classic quartet" studio albums, so you get thumbs up from me for starting your run there.

    Of course you know I respect Kind of Blue the mostest, and as a result I am going to refrain from trolling the thread by posting several different three-album runs from the Miles discography, none of which include it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascodagama View Post
    Ah well, if we're including acoustic jazz in the thread then it's a different ballgame!

    I think Crescent is my favourite of all the "classic quartet" studio albums, so you get thumbs up from me for starting your run there.

    Of course you know I respect Kind of Blue the mostest, and as a result I am going to refrain from trolling the thread by posting several different three-album runs from the Miles discography, none of which include it...
    Coltrane's solo on "Crescent" is my absolute FAVORITE solo by him, out of a universe of mind-blowing masterful solos. It's so good - I'll post it here for the mortals to hear it (starts at 1:47 if you wanna just jump in):

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Coltrane's solo on "Crescent" is my absolute FAVORITE solo by him, out of a universe of mind-blowing masterful solos. It's so good - I'll post it here for the mortals to hear it (starts at 1:47 if you wanna just jump in):

    I've no idea how many times I've heard that, but I doubt I'll ever get tired of listening to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascodagama View Post
    I've no idea how many times I've heard that, but I doubt I'll ever get tired of listening to it.
    Never heard this before. This is really good. I remember trying Coltrane decades ago and not liking it. Haven't been back until today. My loss. That's why this site is so good. It always shows me something I missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arturs View Post
    I think none of these have yet been mentioned...

    Bruford: Feels Good to Me, One of a Kind, Gradually Going Tornado (I know GGT is not a classic for some folks but for me it ranks right up there with the first two)
    Hillage: Fish Rising, L, Green (drat, doesn't work, forgot about Motivation Radio...)
    Djam Karet: New Dark Age, Night for Baku, Recollection Harvest. Could also do Reflections of the Firepool, Burning the Hard City, Suspension & Displacement.
    Big Big Train: Underfall Yard, EE1, EE2
    Orme: Collage, Uomo di Pezza, Felona & Sorona

    PM's Gong: Gazeuse, Expresso 2, Downwind (I know this is cheating a little...)

    That's about it for me in the prog domain. A lot of the ones already mentioned I might tweak one album forward or backward but basically you got 'em already so I won't revisit.

    EDIT: One more won't hurt: Pat Metheny Group: s/t, American Garage, Offramp.
    I totally agree with you about Gradually going Tornado.
    It's my favorite of the three

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    ELP - Love Beach, Black Moon, In the Hot Seat

    I’m really stretching it.


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    ELP - Love Beach, Black Moon, In the Hot Seat

    I’m really stretching it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fracktured View Post
    ELP - Love Beach, Black Moon, In the Hot Seat

    I’m really stretching it.
    All our favorite prog bands have put out some crap albums here and there, but three in a row? I can't think of anyone other than ELP who have achieved that feat! Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arturs View Post
    All our favorite prog bands have put out some crap albums here and there, but three in a row? I can't think of anyone other than ELP who have achieved that feat! Well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fracktured View Post
    ELP - Love Beach, Black Moon, In the Hot Seat

    I’m really stretching it.


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    You know, I never would have thought ELP was capable of such a thing but yet here they are. Cannot figure out what happened to these guys. Things started going downhill with Works I
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    Quote Originally Posted by arturs View Post
    All our favorite prog bands have put out some crap albums here and there, but three in a row? I can't think of anyone other than ELP who have achieved that feat! Well done.
    They did it earlier than this! Works Volume 2, Love Beach and In Concert. I will certainly admit that the former is not a bad album but it's a ragbag of material, some good, some not. Some of it was getting on in years by then as well. When The Who did a similar album they at least called it Odds And Sods. This makes no such distinction.

    Love Beach has been raked over many times.

    In Concert is a total dud- the selections from the Montreal concert were very badly mixed, and track selection was poor. They should have just put out what came out on the King Biscuit CD in the 90s (from Wheeling, West Virginia, I think?). A better send-off for the band.

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    For me, Be Good To Yourself..., Back Into The Future and Rhinos Winos And Lunatics. Their three best albums, I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythos View Post
    Did anyone say Passport yet?

    Hand Made (1973)
    Looking Thru (1974)
    Cross-Collateral (1975)
    Good to see Passport get some respect in this thread, however from my perspective their best 3 album stretch would be:

    Cross-Collateral (1975)
    Infinity Machine (1976)
    Iguaçu (1977) (The album cover and the music blend perfectly to create a jazz rock classic)

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    Don't know if these have already been mentioned

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    So much to agree with so far.

    I might have missed these:

    Mahavishnu Orchestra: The Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire, Apocalypse
    Iceberg: Coses Nostres, Sentiments, Arc-En-Ciel
    Jean Luc Ponty: Imaginary Voyage, Enigmatic Ocean, Cosmic Messenger
    Oregon: Violin, Out of the Woods, roots in the Sky
    Eberhard Weber: Colours of Chloe, Yellow Fields, The Following Morning
    Samla Mammas Manna: Matid, Klossa Knapitatet, Gregory Allan Fitzpatrick's Snorungarnas Symfoni
    Pain of Salvation: One Hour by the Concrete Lake, Perfect Element. Remedy Lane
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