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    ^PS - Joy is still my ultimate favorite by Ayers, although I have learned to really appreciate the first big chunk of his discography. I dig the subtle "prog-isms" in the music but largely its just great, quirky, sometimes psych-ish, and very very English POP music. LOVE his voice as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    So this was posted at the Cow thread but its too damn good to be just buried in there, so this is a must check out......

    I find what I've heard from them a real slog to get through, sadly. But I like this...more typically 'Canterbury' at this point. Not dissimilar to Soft Machine tracks like '10:30 Returns To The Bedroom'. And also Egg's longer, more complicated excursions. I see in the comments it's a BBC session recording before they had any albums out.

    Worth noting this YouTube account has an absolute treasure-trove of other BBC sessions. Wow. Will definitely be exploring this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    Worth noting this YouTube account has an absolute treasure-trove of other BBC sessions. Wow. Will definitely be exploring this.
    Apparently so! Here is another on me playlist today:

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    ^That session is on the 2cd Show Of Our Lives. There's another Caravan one from 1970 on that YouTube page which has never been released. (And there's even a Quatermass session there...not a band represented by a live release that I know of.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    ^That session is on the 2cd Show Of Our Lives.
    That's a great set. I might spin that soon. I still wish I had that box mentioned earlier in the thread, that's a cool looking set!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    There's another Caravan one from 1970 on that YouTube page which has never been released.
    There is a 1970 session on this relatively obscure release that, to my knowledge, hasn't been released elsewhere :
    https://www.discogs.com/fr/Caravan-T...elease/8267973

    6. If I Could Do It All Over Again 3:33
    7. Hello Hello 3:08
    8. And I Wish I Were Stoned 7:50
    9. For Richard 11:49

    (I believe this is the BBC Radio One in Concert of 11 October 1970).
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    ^Never heard that one, always assumed it was some non-descript compilation.

    Here it is, an early 'Golf Girl' is included here from November 1970 (with whistling and different lyrics):


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    It finally stopped snowing after about 24 hours! It finally looks like 'Canterbury January' to me out there. Beginning this Sunday's listening with Kevin Ayers' Joy Of A Toy, a fun, oddball album that I've always really liked, if perhaps mostly linked to the Canterbury genre by the cast of players rather than the overall sound. But it's a great one IMO!
    Speaking of Kevin Ayers, was Shooting At The Moon, the book his daughter Galen published last year, discussed?

    Shooting at the Moon celebrates the music and lyrics of Kevin Ayers, one of the great bohemian voices of British music. Kevin Ayers was an English singer-songwriter who was a major influential force in the English psychedelic movement and a founding member of the band Soft Machine in the 60s. With introductions by Galen Ayers, Josh Payne and Robert Wyatt, this book includes all the lyrics from Ayers solo career and documents a period of the UK music scene between Psychedelia and Glam Rock. Immerse yourself in the world of this influential cult singer-songwriter, with pages from his own notebooks, exclusive photographs, Ayers own collages and the occasional recipe.

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    "There was an idea of 'objective truth' in this, that I needed to put objective truth in front of people and that this would in some way counter the dishonesty of the social and economic system."

    It's funny, reading this fascinating discussion - to me, if anything feels undeveloped, or primitive, it's not the music, but the conceptualisation. Not the politics - although here, the expression is pretty inchoate. But the conception of the nature of music - there is a fundamental misconception, in the conflation of "reasoned" with "objective truth" which betrays a philosophical rationalism which is both naïve & at odds with the materialist dialectics of the political philosophy.

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    Here's some audio from a new album we've just put out for Rascal Reporters Patreon subscribers - early recordings from 1975-77, very advanced Canterbury stuff bordering on RIO at points! Some seriously cool tracks

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    Canterbury jazz: The Ron Mathewson Tapes, featuring Allan Holdsworth, Ray Warleigh and Brian Spring:


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    One of my fav Canterbury moments, but I do prefer the live version (Fairfield Halls) over the studio, but truly love all versions by both bands
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    Caravan covering Softs

    https://youtu.be/NoaMVMUb0WU


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    If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.

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    All in all a solid, if not terribly original, article.

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    Thanks for posting that, Frank. I enjoyed reading it.
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    The Germ Patrol is the perfect song for me to listen to this morning, apparently. What a gem! The little horn solo at the end is exactly the right way for it to finish.
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    This guy is an excellent music reviewer....I really dig his channel.
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    Nice video indeed, the guy is pretty good.

    A couple of mistakes in what he says though - there's no guitar solo by Pye Hastings in "Winter Wine", but a (great) organ solo by Dave Sinclair. And "Castle In The Clouds" from Gong's "Angel's Egg" consists of just electric guitar with a delay pedal - so no synths to be heard in that.
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    Nice and informative video and article !
    Thanks!

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    ^ ^ ^ ^

    It was nice to see someone without a long, grey beard and/or long, grey hair talking about this music....

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    ^ Pretty good, yes.

    But Rotter and Grey & Pink are the only ones I'd include for the absolute beginner of things.

    And then there'd be Volume Two (Softs) for vintage experimentalist alibis, You (Gong) for sheer influence and timeless aura, and finally Rock Bottom for renown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    ^ Pretty good, yes.

    But Rotter and Grey & Pink are the only ones I'd include for the absolute beginner of things.

    And then there'd be Volume Two (Softs) for vintage experimentalist alibis, You (Gong) for sheer influence and timeless aura, and finally Rock Bottom for renown.
    Agree with you 100%. It's not a "perfect" review, but its pretty damn good for a young-ish kid (like Steve said). I also had to forgive him for not one mention of "Dirty Boy" when he reviewed Sing to God, otherwise it was another really decent review. Search his channel for some more interesting stuff if you so desire - has covered stuff like Waits, Miles, Crimson, Swans, etc
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    If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.

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