Wow! It's definitely a kid's franchise. One thing I gotta say: the Storm Troopers are lousy shots and they seem happy to stand for target practice. Oh yeah, Palpatine has a great evil laugh!
The thing that is gone for me and has been since the first trilogy is the sense of wonder these movies engendered. Oh well, there's worse forms of entertainment than this!
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You mean like the series Mars on Netflix?
I've watched a few episodes. It's very faithful to science and the reality of living on a barren wasteland of a planet, like the time the ventilator system got clogged during a sandstorm. Someone had to go out and replace the filter.
I only clicked on it because I thought it was going to be something more interesting...
I only clicked on it because I thought it was going to be something more interesting...
Indeed. However....
So....which is it? Are they supposed to be taken seriously? Should they get every scientific detail correct?
C'mon, man. Star Wars was never hard SF. It's western fantasy in space. Nothing about it is rooted in real science. Han "made the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs!"
You're taking this way too seriously. They're popcorn movies.
Everyone talks about the fan service in these films. What would service the fans more than a bloody massacre of the Ewoks or Gungans?
No one cared about Luke, Leia or Han?
Seriously.
If you walked out after 45 minutes, I have to wonder what your expectations were, and if you'd seen any of the other films before.
Was it perfect? Of course not. But it was far better than any of the Lucas prequels, and tied everything up rather nicely. Too nicely, in some cases, but I can overlook that some in a popcorn movie.
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I don't mind a little creative license here and there, but I think sci-fi movies that go to great lengths to get the science right (2001, The Martian) are better for humanity than the lazy ones that don't. One of the things that bowled me over with Blade Runner was that the world they created was absolutely consistent. All the parts fit together. I mean, nobody explained how to create "more-human-than-human" cyborgs but I could look past that because the whole world they created was consistent with that. Nothing stood out as "scientifically wrong."
Yes, the Star Wars films were popcorn movies, space westerns with swordfights, terminally silly. But a whole generation (or two or three) has grown up measuring science by the flat-wrong examples depicted in the series, which does a disservice to the public. It's lazy filmmaking, it's dangerous to promote scientific illiteracy. In this day & age when SETTLED science is debated as "just your opinion" by people with vested interests in ignoring the facts, it seems like a bad idea to encourage such woolly thinking.
But hey, I sound like the crazy neighbor in pajama bottoms with the hose in his front yard, so just take me off the trick-or-treat list.
But.....Star Wars doesn't present anything as fact. It's entirely fictional. Fantasy. That people hold it up as some sort of scientific measure is no fault of the film makers or writers.
If people are basing their opinions of science on a fictional reality, blame those idiots.
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Well I know like I sound like the deranged neighbor, but why should science be considered expendable in entertainment? People lose their minds if you jettison morality in entertainment, or causality and logic, or civility. How did science get to be optional?
Oh, I guess the whole idea of science-fiction is to imagine what would happen if science was different. Green people, floating carpets, flying cars, telekinesis. I guess that's the answer. Nevermind.
I've pretty much accepted the notion that SW is fantasy rather than science fiction. I know some fans bend over backwards coming up with all these explanations for the gadgets, various races, etc. But it's so much better to just call it fantasy with dueling space wizards.
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Saw it. Liked it.
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Sooo......The Mandalorian.
I watched the 8-episode 1st season over the weekend. In short, this is a fun show. It somewhat unabashedly tries to recreate the feel of the original trilogy, full of callbacks both obvious and subtle. Most of these are executed better than in the sequel trilogy (where the callbacks are mostly gratuitous), and really appeal to the child in me that watched the original trilogy growing up so many times.
I like the realism and setting of a less utopian universe. The original trilogy had a somewhat gritty quality to it, with climates that were challenging and cultures that feel like the Old West. In contrast, the prequel trilogy settings were largely glossy, structured, and civilized. Because of the nature of the main character (a bounty hunter), the Old West "watch your back" feel to the show works well. The "bounty hunter culture" is highlighted, and most of the characters in the show are other hunters, rogues, thieves, ex-Empire, ex-Rebellion, and/or otherwise seedy or sketchy characters.
The show takes place about 5 years after Return of the Jedi. While the focus of the show is NOT political, you see the consequences of the fall of the Empire and the rise of the Republic. In some areas there is a feeling of safety, but many other planets that were "ex-Empire" are now up for grabs. This is not the focus of the story, but sets a bit of a tone of where we are in the timeline.
The episode has a main character arc as well as a main plot. The first few and last few episodes focus primarily on the main plot, while the episodes in between focus on character development and introducing new characters/elements to the mix. The "chapters" are presented more like short stories that help to serve the main arc, but are also self-contained.
I would give this about an 8.5 out of 10. It's not 100% what I would consider my perfect idea for a show, but given its TV format and the fact that it has to have broad audience appeal (cute stuff, Disneyesque moments etc.), it holds up pretty well. Of course, in a few years it might jump the dewback and add a bunch of teenage characters. Until then, I definitely recommend it for SW fans that grew up on the original trilogy.
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I remember one scene in TROS that had me guffawing and saying "No fucking way" aloud in the theater.
Young Harrison is given his first chance to pilot the Millennium Falcon and steps right into the controls. He says something like, "My father worked on the assembly line that made these GF-87s [or whatever the number was] and I visited him on the production line." Yeah, okay that's a cooked-up explanation for why he knows how to fly a spaceship he's never flown before.
But have we EVER seen another Millennium Falcon spaceship in the Star Wars universe?
Or wait. Was this a scene from "Solo"? I watched that the same day, on cable.
I think Will Smith did the same thing. We'll upload a Windows virus!
Thoroughly enjoyed the viewing yesterday. I still look at it as it was originally intended....a Saturday afternoon serial matinee from the 50's / 60's.
I attended the first one (IV) in 1977 and I was a Minor....Attended the last one (I last night and I qualified as a Senior at the Box Office.....Sheesh.
PS Do you see that the Roman Numeral for 9 comes out as (I ?
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