It seems that might well be advisable. Thanks.Originally Posted by taliesin
It seems that might well be advisable. Thanks.
No it isn't. Your post was hilarious.
Over at Hoffman, they're celbrating the 50th anniversary of "Sugar Sugar". So at least PE has some standards.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
Thanks! Glad some of you guys got the joke.
Yeah, don’t worry about Firth, he’s not equipped.Thanks! Glad some of you guys got the joke.
And this thread is on the Main forum? There should be a category for BS.
Yes, but I'm not sure Bakunin was his main ideological source in the 70s. In his 1974 essay on on collective property, Palmer often quotes Charles Fourier's theory of utopian socialism. The influence of Fourier's sensualistic approach becomes quite clear on Love Beach.
Yup, Asia threads only belong in the main forum if they have a serious tone to them.
Also, if Culture Club had featured a kazoo-solo by Geoff Downes this would have warranted inclusion on the main forum, 'cause CC were very popular too. And that's the criteria for genuine music interest - who's involved and if they're well known - not what's actually emanating from a loudspeaker.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
As students of socialist political movements amongst the progressive-rock-drumming class will recall, it was precisely this schism with the more orthodox left-drumming community that lead to Palmer's ideological dispute with Chris Cutler. This long-running argument was eventually proposed to be settled by the famous 48-hour Marxist-Leninist drum battle that took place on 9th-10th November 1980. The event ended indecisively when a bystander announced that Michael Foot had been elected leader of the Labour Party and Palmer fell off his drum stool.
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Absolutely, but surely this first manifested itself on Lick My Love Pump
Cutler/O'Dowd does have potential.
Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know.
I feel I must chime in here. First, thank you for pointing out the 1974 essay as I was entirely unaware of it. In light of that, both the Fourier influence ("System of Harmony") becomes clear particularly in Palmer's stultifying use of the crash symbol and high-hat which was indeed in evidence in both the infamous 1980 drum battle referenced by Mascodagama as well as the unfortunate results as evidenced on Love Beach. In my defense however, I would like to point out that in the February 12, 1972 issue of the Morning Star, Palmer did reference Bakunin and the principle of federalism, free association and communal organization in the context of his abandonment of the American grip in favor of the French grip and subsequent adjustments of his fulcrum point to enable greater independence in the execution of his paradiddles.
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The drummers control the means of reduction. That's what he's saying on Love Beach.
Cobra handling and cocaine use are a bad mix.
Oh Christ, they've brought out the paradiddles.
Game over.
I heard this in the grocery store yesterday.
If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.
"And it's only the giving
That makes you what you are" - Ian Anderson
I think we can now close this thread.
BTW I saw this tour, and was 16 years old at the time, if I recall. It was okay, but.....no clowns.
I honestly expected more, even at that tender age---my listening habits at that time included YesSongs, Welcome Back My Friends, and even Crimson's USA, which was my first Crim album and the first Crim I heard. These guys saw the writing on the wall, I think......the zeitgeist had moved on, without them. By my definitions, this was a pop record, and it was, indeed, quite popular--Heat of the Moment was on radio often. But there are worse Prog Hero sell-out albums.
"And this is the chorus.....or perhaps it's a bridge...."
I have no problem with Asia's music not being prog. We have to recognize it for what it is, if you expect prog from Asia you're shopping down the wrong aisle of the record shop.
They were billed as a supergroup because of the progressive lineage the members of the band brought to the band.
Asia was basically Geoff Downe's idea to create radio friendly music with some great musicians on board.
I happen to like Asia, not everything I listen to needs to be serious or have different time measures and deep thinking lyrics. It's fun sometimes to get in the car and just blast the audio system while the wind blows through your hair and you sing this easy to remember melody as loud as you can. Or turn up the radio and listen to Heat while working around the house.
I think it was also an outlet for the musicians in Asia to just play some simple stuff and have fun without all the heavy stuff they were associated with.
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Neither do most participants in this thread who dislike the band/song.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
well this thread has weaved back and forth, up and down between sarcasm, serious, humor, hate and love like a drunk chicken trying to cross the road on a Saturday night.
So any response will fit in somewhere.
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That was the purpose in the first place, to see what would come up. I think it has gone well.So any response will fit in somewhere.
I was betting that "thread closed" would already have appeared by now
why? for the most part it's been interesting and far less combative than any Yes or Genesis thread and most of those are up to a million posts by now. lolI was betting that "thread closed" would already have appeared by now
Soundcloud page: Richard Hermans, musical meanderings https://soundcloud.com/precipice YouTube: [https://www.youtube.com/@richardhermans4457
If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.
"And it's only the giving
That makes you what you are" - Ian Anderson
Dude reads like he's a professional prick and proud of it.
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