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    I wonder why some guys just can't walk away. I saw a commercial last night for the "Beach Boys" at a small local casino. There's Mike Love shuffling around with some backup band. He's 78 and has a substantial fortune if the Internet is to be believed. WTAF, do you claim you love the road so much you would play a dinky reservation casino in North Dakota in November! And the same with Ian. FFS, enjoy your golden years. My wife is this ridiculous James Taylor and he has played the same goddamn set for the past decade. Shut it down already, you're going through the motions.

    To me there's two ways to do it. Do like Rush and end it with a monster album/tour, going out making a statement. Do it like Robert Fripp and Robert Plant, find a new way to play old music or just keep breaking new stylistic ground.
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    Yikes! Too bad, the band sounds pretty darn good. What is he thinking? Not even sure what's going on here or if this is purely a physical issue. He doesn't seem to be able to breath or project at all, just totally tightened-up here. Regardless, he should just hire a great young singer and put on a great show. Jeez.
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    His guitar and flute playing don't seem to have suffered at all, and I can't fault a guy in his 70s for not running all over the stage like he used to - but that voice! Oh dear. He actually has to stop and take a breath during the word 'resurrect' in that clip above. It's like it takes every ounce of energy he's got just to barely croak out an off-key vocal. He's becoming the 100 year-old who can't blow out the candles at his own birthday party, so someone does it for him and everyone claps.

    I used to daydream about maybe going to England and catching one of his Christmas cathedral concerts, but only if he played instrumentally (which I think would be quite enjoyable anyway).

    For any Passion Play lover who is brave enough, here's one more (I'll stop now. ) Skip to 0:45, unless you want to see Steve Harris' intro.

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    BTW, on a more positive note: Martin Barre has just announced a new tour next March with Barriemore Barlow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    His guitar and flute playing don't seem to have suffered at all, and I can't fault a guy in his 70s for not running all over the stage like he used to - but that voice! Oh dear. He actually has to stop and take a breath during the word 'resurrect' in that clip above. It's like it takes every ounce of energy he's got just to barely croak out an off-key vocal. He's becoming the 100 year-old who can't blow out the candles at his own birthday party, so someone does it for him and everyone claps.

    I used to daydream about maybe going to England and catching one of his Christmas cathedral concerts, but only if he played instrumentally (which I think would be quite enjoyable anyway).

    For any Passion Play lover who is brave enough, here's one more (I'll stop now. ) Skip to 0:45, unless you want to see Steve Harris' intro.




    That's actually a whole lot better than he's been the last few times I've seen him. The voice itself is stronger and less pinched than it's been, and it helps that he finally has other band members who can do some singing (instead of having a ringer guy take entire leads). Only problem is that he still struggles to keep up with the beat, but this wouldn't scare me away from the next tour if there's a good setlist.

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    Definitely sad to watch and hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bRETT View Post
    That's actually a whole lot better than he's been the last few times I've seen him. The voice itself is stronger and less pinched than it's been, and it helps that he finally has other band members who can do some singing (instead of having a ringer guy take entire leads). Only problem is that he still struggles to keep up with the beat, but this wouldn't scare me away from the next tour if there's a good setlist.
    I'd rather have the ringer guy take entire leads. I'd love to see one more show of his with a singer, but anything more than a few songs is too many to make it enjoyable for me at this point. I will say, however, that many people in my section last summer had a blast. I think they were sort of hearing the vocals in their head and were happy to be watching Ian play some Tull. That's completely fine, just not my thing at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    BTW, on a more positive note: Martin Barre has just announced a new tour next March with Barriemore Barlow!
    WHAT!!?? Wow
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    I would say the "Prog" years well went into 1982-84 when Tull and Ian released a trio of keyboard heavy albums featuring Peter-John Vettese. My big favorite is Broadsword and the Beast.

    Our dear old friend Martin barre is also celebrating 50 years of Tull with his own tour and frankly IMHO, I find that one much more interesting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mstove View Post
    I'd rather have the ringer guy take entire leads.
    I'll second that. I loved the shows with Ryan O'Donnell sharing the heavy lifting, and if anything would have liked to see him take over more of the vocals while Ian concentrates on the instrumental parts, where his chops are undiminished. Unfortunately, I gather O'Donnell has theatrical gigs that take precedence over any commitment to Tull. Or maybe Ian just decided he didn't like sharing the spotlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    It is pretty painful. Skip to about 2:35.
    If someone played that for me without my seeing it, I would never ever ever guess it was Ian.

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    He went from having one of the strongest voices in prog (imo) to something akin to a shell of his former self that is barely even recognizable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    My breaking point was a concert in Toronto with Procol Harum backing up Jethro Tull. Booker's vocals were strong and crystal clear. As you say, Ian croaked. That was about 10 years ago. I swore never again. ian's vocal in the past were sublime and JT were amongst the best prog shows I witnessed. I just can't understand how people continue to see Ian sing, when he can't.
    I saw that tour as well and I agree completely. And Ian seems even worse now, having even less ability to project. At least Martin and Doane were still there a decade ago to ensure it was actually a rock show.

    But here's the funny (as in bizarre) thing. I would say 98% of the audience *loved* that show. Ian particularly botched Aqualung: off-key, out-of-synch, no power, it was godawful. I was looking around and yeah here and there other fans returned my horrified WTF!?? look. But most everyone else was whooping and hollering in ecstasy. Right after Aqualung and LB a young guy next to me started shaking my hand and saying "wasn't that fantastic!" several times. I didn't want to disappoint him but I could only mutter a quiet "yeah".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits View Post
    I'll second that. I loved the shows with Ryan O'Donnell sharing the heavy lifting, and if anything would have liked to see him take over more of the vocals while Ian concentrates on the instrumental parts, where his chops are undiminished. Unfortunately, I gather O'Donnell has theatrical gigs that take precedence over any commitment to Tull. Or maybe Ian just decided he didn't like sharing the spotlight.
    Ryan was perfect for the part. He knew how to be the lead while not stepping on Ian's toes which made for a couple of really enjoyable tours. Whatever the reason, I was bummed to see him go and if the last show I saw wasn't part of a festival, I wouldn't have driven the hour to see him. Even with that we left a few songs early because it was painful - and we never do that outside of this show.

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    So, does Ian ever attempt lower-register numbers like "Fires at Midnight," where he might be able to do a better job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arturs View Post
    Ian particularly botched Aqualung: off-key, out-of-synch, no power, it was godawful. I was looking around and yeah here and there other fans returned my horrified WTF!?? look. But most everyone else was whooping and hollering in ecstasy.
    They were hearing a song that they recognized. That seems to be the main criterion for WOOOO. It doesn't have to be any good.

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    Haven't heard their new guitarist, so I have a weak hope he isn't an 80s metal fan, as was Mr. Opale. Good news from Jethro Tull - Ian Anderson camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    They were hearing a song that they recognized. That seems to be the main criterion for WOOOO. It doesn't have to be any good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajaz View Post
    I would say the "Prog" years well went into 1982-84 when Tull and Ian released a trio of keyboard heavy albums featuring Peter-John Vettese. My big favorite is Broadsword and the Beast.

    Our dear old friend Martin barre is also celebrating 50 years of Tull with his own tour and frankly IMHO, I find that one much more interesting...
    Not much prog on Broadsword and the Beast. Or Under Wraps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    BTW, on a more positive note: Martin Barre has just announced a new tour next March with Barriemore Barlow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Facelift View Post
    Not much prog on Broadsword and the Beast. Or Under Wraps.
    I think that Broadsword is very proggy, Wraps ain't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grego View Post
    Haven't heard their new guitarist, so I have a weak hope he isn't an 80s metal fan, as was Mr. Opale. Good news from Jethro Tull - Ian Anderson camp.
    The second clip shows him with his band and he seems to be a very solid vocalist as well. Let's hope IA has the good sense to take advantage of that.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    They were hearing a song that they recognized. That seems to be the main criterion for WOOOO. It doesn't have to be any good.
    Thus how we have gotten to a world where original bands struggle to bring in 50 people but tribute bands sell out.

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    There are a number of frustrating things about this, even for someone like myself who isn't going to see them live anyway.

    As much as I admire a dedication to legit live performance, and as distasteful as I normally find lip syncing- young artists who dance around a lot live utilize it constantly. Since Ian's last few solo albums demonstrate that he can muster an acceptable vocal delivery in the studio, go into the booth and record all the vocals for your chosen set and mime to them, play flute and guitar live. No timing issues, no continued damage by trying to sing and move around like a 35 year old.

    I would prefer Ian hire a singer for his band (it is the Ian Anderson Band anyway, why feel obligated to front it as though it were 1975 era Tull anyway?) or retire from touring, but since he clearly refuses to do that I see the miming solution as perfectly acceptable, and I seriously doubt the people going to see him now would notice/care.

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    That mime idea is terrible. I hate to go into concert to hear taped music.
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