"Alternative" Soundtracks

[rcarlberg]

Are there any more I should know about?

[Dave (in MA)]

The released version of Tangerine Dream's The Keep, as rare as it was, didn't have much to do with the actual movie soundtrack.

[interbellum]

Of course this one doesn't fit, but it's nice to mention: Blade Runner 2049 - original score by Jóhann Jóhannsson:

[interbellum]

^^The last post may not be containing Jóhannsson's music (see comments below the clip).

[helicase]

There's the Clockwork Orange Complete Original Score by Wendy Carlos, only part of which was used on the "official" soundtrack, if that's alternative enough for you.

[Progbear]

Goblin’s Wampir, which is their score for George Romero’s Martin. As I recall, there are only a couple of original (“new”) tracks, the bulk of the album comprised of songs previously released on Roller and Il fantastico viaggio del “bagarozzo” Mark.

They did an “alternate” soundtrack to Richard Franklin’s Patrick as well. The official soundtrack was by Brian May (not that one).

[BravadoNJ]

Stewart Copeland did the music to the pilot to the television series Babylon 5: The Gathering in 1993.
when the movie was mastered to DVD, the music was replaced... as well as many other things in the movie.
the original movie (and music) is almost impossible to find.

[Halmyre]

The Battle of Britain.

Composer Sir William Walton was commissioned to write the score but it was rejected by United Artists as 'unsuitable' without them ever hearing the score accompanied by the film. Ron Goodwin was commissioned for a new score. Sir Laurence Olivier then threatened to walk away from the film unless Walton got a credit. In the end his music was used over the climactic air battle.

[rcarlberg]

Has Walton’s original score ever been released?

[Halmyre]

Has Walton’s original score ever been released?

Yes, you can get both on one package:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Battle-Brit.../dp/B00024YV2M

Not sure how legit it is.

[battema]

^^The last post may not be containing Jóhannsson's music (see comments below the clip).

I'd put good money that neither clip is Johannsson. Based on comments from the folks who are managing his estate, nothing of the score was in any shape for even a posthumous release. This sounds like a very clever tribute (well, not THAT clever in that it bears almost no resemblance to anything JJ did. The only thing I ever heard from him that hinted at this direction was 'Forging the Beast' from Mandy).

[battema]

I do rather love the Apocalypse Now alternate soundtrack quite a bit

[battema]

Ridley Scott seems to feel he should've tossed Tangerine Dream's score for "Legend" in favor of the original Jerry Goldsmith score that appeared on the European versions of the film. I can't say I agree, but it was very interesting seeing the film with the JG score for the first time on DVD some years ago.

[rcarlberg]

Yes, you can get both on one package: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Battle-Brit.../dp/B00024YV2M

Thanks. I asked because I've been a fan of Walton's incidental music, such as the "Spitfire Prelude and Fugue" since I was a kid.

[interbellum]

I'd put good money that neither clip is Johannsson. Based on comments from the folks who are managing his estate, nothing of the score was in any shape for even a posthumous release. This sounds like a very clever tribute (well, not THAT clever in that it bears almost no resemblance to anything JJ did. The only thing I ever heard from him that hinted at this direction was 'Forging the Beast' from Mandy).

Thanks for this information. Love the Mandy-soundtrack b.t.w. Speaking of Jóhannsson (sorry, bit OT): this track was dedicated to his memory:

Grain Of Sand by Jo Berger Myhre & Ólafur Björn Ölafsson (who worked with him often) from their album Lanzarote:

[interbellum]

I do rather love the Apocalypse Now alternate soundtrack quite a bit

Me too. La La Land releases some quite interesting soundtracks.

[Halmyre]

Dominic Muldowney composed the score for 'Nineteen Eighty-Four' but Virgin Films rejected it and commissioned the Eurythmics to write a new score. The whole business got a bit contentious:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninete...re_controversy

[JKL2000]

For some fucked up reason over the credits for the movie Shrek John Cale sings “Hallelujah,” but Rufus Wainwright is credited. Still, at least you can easily connect Robert Fripp to Eddie Murphy!

[progmatist]

I always found it kind of funny the main theme for 2001 is Richard Strauss' Also Sprach Zarathustra, written in the year 1896.

[GuitarGeek]

They did an “alternate” soundtrack to Richard Franklin’s Patrick as well. The official soundtrack was by Brian May (not that one).

I remember when Dr. Brian May, CBE was interviewed in Guitar Player, back around the time of Hot Space, he brought upt he point that a lot of people ask him if he's the same Brian May who did the music for Mad Max and Breaker Morant. He said that he wasn't, and that the guy who does those film scores was an Australian composer, then wondered if the Aussie guy gets the same question. When I used to look for Queen memorabilia on E-bay, the Mad Max, Road Warrior, etc soundtrack albums used to pop up regularly, because sellers who didn't know their shit kept listing them as being by "Brian May of Queen".

[GuitarGeek]

Ridley Scott seems to feel he should've tossed Tangerine Dream's score for "Legend" in favor of the original Jerry Goldsmith score that appeared on the European versions of the film. I can't say I agree, but it was very interesting seeing the film with the JG score for the first time on DVD some years ago.

I never quite understood that deal. I always had the understanding that the US edit of the film (with the Tangerine Dream score, and Jon Anderson and Bryan Ferry songs) was done by the studio, but the comments on Wikipedia make it seem like Scott was a willing participant, because "American audiences aren't as sophisticated as European audiences". It's worded to suggest that Scott "allowed" the Goldsmith score to remain intact on the Euro release.

If he thinks it was "strange" that Goldsmith's score be replaced by "some techno-pop group" (his words, you can read them on Wikipedia), one wonders why he allowed it to happen, assuming he really did have any say so in the matter. My impression such changes are often times done without the the director's say so, because the studio (or producer, sometimes) has final cut privileges, and they sometimes do whatever they want to the film.

[Progbear]

When I used to look for Queen memorabilia on E-bay, the Mad Max, Road Warrior, etc soundtrack albums used to pop up regularly, because sellers who didn't know their shit kept listing them as being by "Brian May of Queen".

I always have my image of William C. Whitney on hand for such an occasion. Clueless eBay sellers would have you believe this is Theodore Roosevelt: don’t believe them!

big stick whitney reaction.jpg

[interbellum]

I'm still curious how Mark Mancina's soundtrack for Speed sounded like before Allan Holdsworth contributions were mixed out. Holdsworth was credited in the booklet of the first CD-edition, but in the La La Land Records-edition of 2012 there's no mentioning of him anymore.
More information: http://fingerprintsweb.net/ahwiki/in...e=Speed(Movie)
Strange that in this recent podcast Mancina mentions he did use Holdsworth: https://tomorrowsociety.com/mark-mancina-podcast/