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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    By that logic, downloads provide the artist with the most revenue with the least investment.
    I'm speaking mostly of reissues. For new releases and/or remasters, I do in fact prefer the original Hi-Res files from which the vinyl is cut. Unless of course the digital version is heavily brickwalled, in which case I prefer the vinyl version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    My response to what little of that article I was allowed to read, without subscribing: 1) Most reissues are cut from the original analog tapes. 2) Even if it's from digital files, it's typically from higher res files than a CD. 3) For this reason alone in my mind, new vinyl records are well worth the price of admission: vinyl records can't be brickwalled to death like digital media can. If records were, they'd be unplayable. It'd be like running one's stylus over a saw blade.
    From what I remember from that Wall Street Journal article, it was seriously hinting that no remaster vinyls were purely analogue (the original master tapes never travel anymore), but an important %-age of the production was actually engraved from MP3 - I don't have access anymore to the WSJ, so I can't print the text.



    And to be honest, if I wasn't overjoyed in the late 80's to see AAD, then ADD and finally DDD, I'm not exactly thrilled to see the opposite trend DDA or DAA: it all sounds so vain as long as there is one single D anywhere in the process.
    Find me on the planet (bar some hole in Sahel, maybe) a studio that hasn't escaped the digital modernisation over 30 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    Find me on the planet (bar some hole in Sahel, maybe) a studio that hasn't escaped the digital modernisation over 30 years ago.
    I think you meant *HAS* escaped digital modernization... and you probably won't find any (outside of maybe Joe Bussard's Old Hat Records) because there's essentially no market for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    From what I remember from that Wall Street Journal article, it was seriously hinting that no remaster vinyls were purely analogue (the original master tapes never travel anymore), but an important %-age of the production was actually engraved from MP3 - I don't have access anymore to the WSJ, so I can't print the text.
    Straight reissues without any reprocessing will be pure analog. That would rule out remasters, which are heavily reprocessed. Yes there are millennials who don't get the concept of MP3 being poor in quality. They also hold their phones vertically while recording video, not understanding they're only using 1/3 of the available video image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    From what I remember from that Wall Street Journal article, it was seriously hinting that no remaster vinyls were purely analogue (the original master tapes never travel anymore), but an important %-age of the production was actually engraved from MP3 - I don't have access anymore to the WSJ, so I can't print the text.
    That article's been debunked.
    https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/201...h-fabrication/

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    i have a hard time believing that a newspaper as serious as the WSJ would let one of his writer write up unsubstantiated articles like this very skewed attack pretends it does.

    this reply sounds like a losing boxer on the brink of knock-out and in the ropes trying a low blow in the balls.
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    i have a hard time believing that a newspaper as serious as the WSJ would let one of his writer write up unsubstantiated articles like this ...
    Have you read their opinion page?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Have you read their opinion page?
    nope, and I imagine the leftist I am would actually detest whatever their opinions are in their editorials... (that's where real journalists are allowed to voice them, not in normal informations articles)

    But I'd hope that their business articles are well-researched and usually pro-business. So I'd expect a pro-enterprise journal like WSJ to find it good news the resurgence of the vinyl craze.
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    i have a hard time believing that a newspaper as serious as the WSJ would let one of his writer write up unsubstantiated articles like this very skewed attack pretends it does.

    this reply sounds like a losing boxer on the brink of knock-out and in the ropes trying a low blow in the balls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    ^ The best I could probably do is this: With vinyl LPs, I've noticed I can crank the volume up much higher without it ever sounding shrill or harsh, which I've never experienced with CDs.

    It's less about the soundstage, for me at least, than it is the sonic feel -- and of course the ritual of using a turntable and taking out the LPs. Plus, the colored vinyl is really pretty.
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    I don't really know much about all this but lately on Youtube I've been watching this series, "What's In My Bag?" in which rock musicians of all kinds go shopping at a vinyl record specialty store in California, then sit down with the interviewer and show what they picked up. You see the occasional CD box set or DVD TV/movie box set but for the most part they're showing older and often obscure vinyl records.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    If I'm house hunting, I'll consult Field and Stream magazine.
    So do beavers.
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    ^^ I don't know about you, but I love beavers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    ^^ I don't know about you, but I love beavers.
    Not enough white meat.

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    They're all pink on the inside.
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    Dude. You gotta cook 'em first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    Not enough white meat.
    I've always found white meat dry, and otherwise unpleasant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    I've always found white meat dry, and otherwise unpleasant.
    It’s probably overcooked then. White meat can be juicy when prepared right.

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    Oh, you definitely want to develop all of the juiciness when preparing your beaver for eating. They can be a tough meat to conquer -- like any wild meat -- so it helps to simmer for a while.

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