Originally Posted by Steve983
I was hoping he was going do the opposite and continue to try to bring challenging rock music into the mainstream, instead he's sold out
Here we come to the crux of the biscuit, I think.
When other people like music I like, it makes me happy.
When other people like music I don't like, it confuses me.
When other people don't like music I like, they are assholes.
No, not even close. It's what middle-aged prog geeks like us think the mainstream is, since we don't actually listen to mainstream pop!:
That's the beauty of the comedy gold here within this thread! When proggers think they know what pop and mainstream is vs. what it really is.
I'll confess to being out of touch when it comes to truly "mainstream" music these days. I've never listened to Ariana Grande, for example (though I have listened to some Taylor Swift). But popular music has gotten pretty diverse, and there's stuff like Tame Impala which is just one guy in the studio writing his own stuff and playing most of the instruments himself -- and he's pretty darn popular (he tours with a full band of course). So there's still some quality stuff being made under the mainstream pop umbrella, IMO.
What about other animals who used to like music that you originally liked but then didn't like and then liked again for 7 minutes?
Oh yeah, I forgot about Toro y Moi (aka Chaz Bear), who is kinda like a modern day Todd Rundgren in that each album is different from the last and he does a bit of music production work on the side.
It depends on how cute they are.
Ergo:
If you're actually reading this then chances are you already have my last album but if NOT and you're curious:
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Also, Ephemeral Sun: it's a thing and we like making things that might be your thing: https://ephemeralsun.bandcamp.com
OK duly noted. Arf. Bakaaaaw. Meow. Mooo.
"Arf," she said.
That's certainly possible. Just as I said that we're all a bunch of middle-aged geeks out of touch with mainstream pop, well, remember that Wilson is *one of us*. I strongly doubt that he sits around listening to K-Pop and Cardi B songs.
It'd be pretty funny if he thinks that a song that would have fit on a putative early '90s Roger Waters concept record would be "mainstream" in 2020, but I guess anything is possible!
One other aspect to this that we may be missing is that "TFB" is supposed to be larger concept that includes the recording, tour and merchandise. I'm assuming the TFB tour, if it ever happens, will be "in character", as such. And yes, I'm also rolling my eyes at the prospect...
Frankie, a modified dude.
Although I wonder if the new Mrs. Wilson does. And maybe it's rubbing off on him. SW is one of the spongiest musicians I've ever seen.
I guess we're going to have to wait for the inevitable flood of interviews sometime soon to have it all explained.
I'm holding out for the Wilson-mixed 5.1 super-duper walletbuster special anniversary extra adjectives edition.
Not sure about this. K-Pop and Cardi B don't sound anything like these new Wilson songs.
You probably know better than me.
I'm holding out for the Wilson-mixed 5.1 super-duper walletbuster special anniversary extra adjectives edition.
In the case of Cardi B, believe me, I wish I didn't know.You probably know better than me.
That is an interesting possibility, hearing things around the house he might not normally be exposed to.
I still kind of like Permanating. I can't say the same about this recent tune. Oh well, maybe something on the album will appeal to me.
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Amusing (to me anyway) absolutely true story from earlier today...
I was reading through this thread and clicked on the "eminent sleaze" video for the first time. I then realized I had turned down the computer sound to almost zero about a half hour previous so I turned it back up to hear the new SW song. I thought it was pretty good. There was a cliched chanting chorus but also a lot of odd female vocals, some interesting piano motifs. Odd, but not bad.
Only after about three minutes of the song did I remember that I had kicked off a long windows music player playlist before turning down the volume. So, in fact I was not only listening to "eminent sleaze" but also, simultaneously, "1000 years" by Hi-fiction Science. The songs must be in the same key because nothing sounded off. And the latter has no prominent drums to interfere with sleaze's rhythm.
When I stopped 1000 years, eminent sleaze became a much less interesting tune
...or a modified d**k....fill in the blanks!
Pan-chromatic resonance, and other lowly dangling domains.
That Eminent Sleaze song sounds a bit 'Rock On' - David Essex to me.
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Send this to Wilson. He will remix it.Amusing (to me anyway) absolutely true story from earlier today...
I was reading through this thread and clicked on the "eminent sleaze" video for the first time. I then realized I had turned down the computer sound to almost zero about a half hour previous so I turned it back up to hear the new SW song. I thought it was pretty good. There was a cliched chanting chorus but also a lot of odd female vocals, some interesting piano motifs. Odd, but not bad.
Only after about three minutes of the song did I remember that I had kicked off a long windows music player playlist before turning down the volume. So, in fact I was not only listening to "eminent sleaze" but also, simultaneously, "1000 years" by Hi-fiction Science. The songs must be in the same key because nothing sounded off. And the latter has no prominent drums to interfere with sleaze's rhythm.
When I stopped 1000 years, eminent sleaze became a much less interesting tune
I thought this exactly when I heard it the first time!
I get that people like a certain Style that Steven Wilson does, but expecting him to go back to Porcupine Tree or do it exactly what Porcupine Tree did isn't really Progressive is it?
Nope - but it's "Progses" - and that's what we wants my precious....
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