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    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    My understanding is that, yes, there will be UK dates (and hopefully that includes Ireland) playing Relayer as part of the 2023 European leg. Possibly they've not announced them yet so as not to distract from the 2022 UK/Ire dates.



    Initially, Sherwood was not to be on the Cruise because of his Yes tour commitments. Now it's been announced that he will be, which was a clue that the 2022 continental European dates were toast before the announcement came!

    White's condition does not look good,
    but then Schellen has been announced as touring with the band in 2022 and 2023 and I presume he will do the vast majority of the playing.
    Agree.. the video I just watched of him talking to reporters is very revealing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koreabruce View Post
    With or without Alan White, somehow I just cannot picture this incarnation of Yes performing the entire Relayer album, the song Sound Chaser in particular, and doing it justice.
    Can you do Sound Chaser in a lounge style....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovecraft View Post
    Can you do Sound Chaser in a lounge style....?
    They could play the entire thing at the tempo of the slowest bit in the instrumental section where they accelerate and decelerate.
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    ^^^

    Now I want to hear that version!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koreabruce View Post
    With or without Alan White, somehow I just cannot picture this incarnation of Yes performing the entire Relayer album, the song Sound Chaser in particular, and doing it justice.
    Neither can I. No disrespect intended, but that is some pretty difficult stuff to pull of as far as chops go. I really like Downes as a keyboardist (even in Yes), but I don't know if he can pull that off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemeat View Post
    The plot thickens...

    The latest Yes official post en fb only mentions "the Close to the Edge 50th Anniversary Tour of the UK this summer".
    Looks like Jon and the Youngin's are doing this also, but in the USA. I have no idea of what his "tour" consists of, but I'd imagine it will be wherever he can gather up some kids from the Rock Academy to play with him.


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    Hate to be a pill but Jon on the road with his Las Vegas outfit is lotsa fun, they don't do Yes classics note for note but they are excellent musos and their arrangements definitely fit the bill, I highly recommend seeing him/them. When it comes to Jon + the kids it's amazing that the youngins are as good as they are but when you're used to watching the best of the best the show just isn't what you're used to, we saw both recently, I wouldn't go back to see the above again.

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    Jon Anderson may also be doing CttE with the Band Geeks live in 2023.

    Meanwhile, we've now had news of a Sep 2022 Japan leg for Yes doing CttE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    Jon Anderson may also be doing CttE with the Band Geeks live in 2023.
    I would pay to see this.
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    The videos I've seen of Jon of late make me marvel at the quality of his voice at age 77. Jon Davison is a really nice dude but Anderson's is such the stronger voice for classic Yes music. I'd rather Steve Howe's Yes focus live on music they wrote and recorded with the Jon Davison and Downes group because these guys sound better on music they helped make and record. Classic Yes material often leaves Downes in the dust imnsho and Davison's voice doesn't have the same richness in terms of tonal quality, but we know Howe's Yes isn't going to go out there and play gigs consisting of mostly material from Yes music since 2008, although I'd kind of dig it actually since I like those albums. Not sure how Jon Anderson maintains his level of vocal ability at his age but it strikes me as remarkable.

    Here is a clip of Heart of the Sunrise from last year with Jon and the Paul Green Rock Academy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z0lQTIQvRY

    I love that Jon does this and the kids at least play the songs in original tempos! Jon sounds great. They are no ARW but I find this approach more interesting than what Howe is doing with his band on the classic tunes. Just imo of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    I would pay to see this.
    Same. I don't need to see him with the kids, but this would definitely be of interest to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    I would pay to see this.
    I think that is the basic idea behind how tours work, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquatarkus View Post
    The videos I've seen of Jon of late make me marvel at the quality of his voice at age 77. Jon Davison is a really nice dude but Anderson's is such the stronger voice for classic Yes music. I'd rather Steve Howe's Yes focus live on music they wrote and recorded with the Jon Davison and Downes group because these guys sound better on music they helped make and record. Classic Yes material often leaves Downes in the dust imnsho and Davison's voice doesn't have the same richness in terms of tonal quality, but we know Howe's Yes isn't going to go out there and play gigs consisting of mostly material from Yes music since 2008, although I'd kind of dig it actually since I like those albums. Not sure how Jon Anderson maintains his level of vocal ability at his age but it strikes me as remarkable.

    Here is a clip of Heart of the Sunrise from last year with Jon and the Paul Green Rock Academy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z0lQTIQvRY

    I love that Jon does this and the kids at least play the songs in original tempos! Jon sounds great. They are no ARW but I find this approach more interesting than what Howe is doing with his band on the classic tunes. Just imo of course.
    Ditto

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    I think that is the basic idea behind how tours work, yes.
    Brilliant, that comment made me laugh aloud! (Thanks for cheering me up.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquatarkus View Post
    The videos I've seen of Jon of late make me marvel at the quality of his voice at age 77. Jon Davison is a really nice dude but Anderson's is such the stronger voice for classic Yes music. I'd rather Steve Howe's Yes focus live on music they wrote and recorded with the Jon Davison and Downes group because these guys sound better on music they helped make and record. Classic Yes material often leaves Downes in the dust imnsho and Davison's voice doesn't have the same richness in terms of tonal quality, but we know Howe's Yes isn't going to go out there and play gigs consisting of mostly material from Yes music since 2008, although I'd kind of dig it actually since I like those albums. Not sure how Jon Anderson maintains his level of vocal ability at his age but it strikes me as remarkable.

    Here is a clip of Heart of the Sunrise from last year with Jon and the Paul Green Rock Academy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z0lQTIQvRY

    I love that Jon does this and the kids at least play the songs in original tempos! Jon sounds great. They are no ARW but I find this approach more interesting than what Howe is doing with his band on the classic tunes. Just imo of course.


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    The 2022 YES tour will be starting quite soon on June 17th and only has 10 UK dates + 4 Japan dates. That's it.
    Wow, after more than two years on hold and not taking part on the Cruise, this "tour" seems flat and the shortest in decades.

    Could it be that Steve is no longer willing to commit to a longer trek or Alan's poor health? I doubt it has anything to do with the other younger members, not even Downes. And there really would not be any heavy rehearsals having played CTTE many times with this lineup and having called off playing the entire Relayer. This makes me feel a sense of satisfaction that I had the chance to see the Masterworks tour - how times have changed indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajaz View Post
    The 2022 YES tour will be starting quite soon on June 17th and only has 10 UK dates + 4 Japan dates. That's it.
    Wow, after more than two years on hold and not taking part on the Cruise, this "tour" seems flat and the shortest in decades.

    Could it be that Steve is no longer willing to commit to a longer trek or Alan's poor health? I doubt it has anything to do with the other younger members, not even Downes. And there really would not be any heavy rehearsals having played CTTE many times with this lineup and having called off playing the entire Relayer. This makes me feel a sense of satisfaction that I had the chance to see the Masterworks tour - how times have changed indeed.
    Well, yeah...Masterworks was over two decades ago!

    It could totally be age...seeing that interview with Alan White was certainly illustrative in terms of how much time has passed since I last saw him onstage. It could also be lingering COVID concerns, and not wanting to roll the dice with booking a larger tour that could risk being impacted if there's another major surge. If rumors are true and they're actually making another record, it could be that they're putting most of their not-unlimited energy into making that happen, rather than running through tour repertoire.
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    FWIW...while I'm always curious to at least hear something new from Yes, because I already saw so many great Yes shows from the 90's - early 00's, I also don't really feel much desire to see them live anymore. I feel the same about Anderson, ARW, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Roger Waters, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajaz View Post
    The 2022 YES tour will be starting quite soon on June 17th and only has 10 UK dates + 4 Japan dates. That's it.
    Wow, after more than two years on hold and not taking part on the Cruise, this "tour" seems flat and the shortest in decades.

    Could it be that Steve is no longer willing to commit to a longer trek or Alan's poor health? I doubt it has anything to do with the other younger members, not even Downes. And there really would not be any heavy rehearsals having played CTTE many times with this lineup and having called off playing the entire Relayer. This makes me feel a sense of satisfaction that I had the chance to see the Masterworks tour - how times have changed indeed.
    They've said that the continental European dates that were planned had to be cancelled because of difficulties over COVID restrictions. Particularly in the context of Brexit as well, it seems entirely plausible to me that COVID and associated restrictions is still buggering up logistics.

    Not long after the Japanese leg, they will probably be touring North America. It's not been announced, but I know of one band member who's said it's happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    If rumors are true and they're actually making another record
    It is absolutely, definitely true. I've talked to people. I've heard from others second hand. They've done a lot of recording already.
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    Are we assuming that we will get another UK tour next year for Relayer? Otherwise we won't get to see it. Two years in a row for the UK - that might be a first since the 70's..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve983 View Post
    Are we assuming that we will get another UK tour next year for Relayer? Otherwise we won't get to see it. Two years in a row for the UK - that might be a first since the 70's..
    Yes, I'm pretty certain there will be UK dates (and presumably Ireland too) connected to the announced continental European 2023 dates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    FWIW...while I'm always curious to at least hear something new from Yes, because I already saw so many great Yes shows from the 90's - early 00's, I also don't really feel much desire to see them live anymore. I feel the same about Anderson, ARW, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Roger Waters, etc...
    I feel the same way, especially about Yes. To their credit, at least Steve Howe still plays the entire concert (that Alan does not) as the only member from the classic lineup (non-founder).
    And I say that after I felt cheated when to my surprise I went to see Foreigner (in Halifax 2019) and not even Mick Jones was playing as the only original member. All those guys were hired hands, that was a big let down.

    But of those you listed, I am going to Roger Waters later this summer and I have never been disappointed by his incredible and astonishing shows, but as far as the other bands go it is easy to pass on them.
    I may be older but, I saw live: Led Zeppelin, Yes, ELP, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Fish, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Marillion, IQ, UK, Saga, Rush, Supertramp, Pink Floyd, Genesis with Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, Triumph, Magma, Goblin, Porcupine Tree, The Musical Box, Uriah Heep, Dio, David Bowie, Iron Maiden, Queen with Freddie Mercury, George Harrison, Paul McCartney, Elton John, Eric Clapton & Steve Winwood, Steely Dan, Dream theater, Joe Satriani, you get the idea..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajaz View Post
    I feel the same way, especially about Yes. To their credit, at least Steve Howe still plays the entire concert (that Alan does not) as the only member from the classic lineup (non-founder).
    And I say that after I felt cheated when to my surprise I went to see Foreigner (in Halifax 2019) and not even Mick Jones was playing as the only original member. All those guys were hired hands, that was a big let down.

    But of those you listed, I am going to Roger Waters later this summer and I have never been disappointed by his incredible and astonishing shows, but as far as the other bands go it is easy to pass on them.
    If I'm being honest with myself, the Waters choice for me (I had a ticket but got a refund) is mostly down to two angles: ( 1 ) it's a visually stunning show but I don't enjoy the shows where performers are just little dots anymore. I saw Gojira last week but mostly saw the light show, not them. Realizing that Waters uses vocal backing tracks and isn't singing the whole time didn't help either. And ( 2 ) it's not whether I agree or disagree with Waters on his various subjects, but rather than I'm still very worn out from feeling like every aspect of life had to be an argument for the past few years. And I feel like his show is likely going to push the "outrage engine" into the red. So for that money, I'm happier attending shows that will be less of that sort of emotional riptide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    If I'm being honest with myself, the Waters choice for me (I had a ticket but got a refund) is mostly down to two angles: ( 1 ) it's a visually stunning show but I don't enjoy the shows where performers are just little dots anymore. I saw Gojira last week but mostly saw the light show, not them. Realizing that Waters uses vocal backing tracks and isn't singing the whole time didn't help either. And ( 2 ) it's not whether I agree or disagree with Waters on his various subjects, but rather than I'm still very worn out from feeling like every aspect of life had to be an argument for the past few years. And I feel like his show is likely going to push the "outrage engine" into the red. So for that money, I'm happier attending shows that will be less of that sort of emotional riptide.
    I'll be seeing Waters for the first time on this tour. Despite agreeing 100% with John's assessment above. But I couldn't turn down the opportunity to see him in what will probably be his last tour. Hoping for the best.
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