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    Pendragon - The First 40 Years

    Big hardcover 5CD thing coming, but super expensive compared to other releases in a similar format. I’m hoping our domestic Prog sources come through with this.

    https://themerchdesk.com/merchdesk/i...iCPA90lUSsTOAk

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    Hoping for a new album soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Big hardcover 5CD thing coming, but super expensive compared to other releases in a similar format. I’m hoping our domestic Prog sources come through with this.

    https://themerchdesk.com/merchdesk/i...iCPA90lUSsTOAk
    I think it's a fair price for what you get, hard cover book and the remixes and re-recordings of some parts(if I understood that correctly), but at that price it's out of my price range.
    I still haven't told my wife yet about my $45 Nektar Pledge for the new vinyl album yet....shhhhhhh, "please don't say a word"

    Quote Originally Posted by Staun View Post
    Hoping for a new album soon.
    Nick is working on it as we speak.
    True story from his FB page. He had a personal notebook in his backpack and was out in the country and had the notebook in his backpack with much of the lyrics and ideas for the songs on the new album.
    He left the backpack in the van for a minute and someone stole the backpack with the lyrics inside. Never got it back, so many of the songs will have similar ideas but different lyrics.
    That has to bite!!!
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    I hope Pendragon can recapture the magic for a new album, the last one was good but like 'Pendragon by numbers', the previous one was mostly not good at all, fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve983 View Post
    I hope Pendragon can recapture the magic for a new album, the last one was good but like 'Pendragon by numbers', the previous one was mostly not good at all, fingers crossed.
    I'm a sucker for a new Pendragon album. Even a so so Pendragon album still grabs my attention and gives me happiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I think it's a fair price for what you get, hard cover book and the remixes and re-recordings of some parts
    It's a fair bit more than what similar InsideOut releases sell for, but I suppose this is self-released and will sell a lot fewer copies. Also, I’m thankful none of the CDs aren’t just instrumental versions of something.

    I guess this answers my question about US Prog dealers:

    “The First 40 Years” Collectors Edition Commemorative Book is available to Pre-Order from our on-line retailer HERE
    £65 plus P+P

    OR from your local Prog CD Dealer across the globe.
    (It’ll will save shipping $£€’s and woes if you order from your local supplier where available, & if they don’t have it to pre-order, ask them to get it for you!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve983 View Post
    I hope Pendragon can recapture the magic for a new album, the last one was good but like 'Pendragon by numbers', the previous one was mostly not good at all, fingers crossed.
    I liked, Men Who Climb Mountains, a great deal. Good ideas and some excellent sections there. Passion left me somewhat flat but I thought, Pure, was very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Big hardcover 5CD thing coming, but super expensive compared to other releases in a similar format. I’m hoping our domestic Prog sources come through with this.

    https://themerchdesk.com/merchdesk/i...iCPA90lUSsTOAk
    Pendragon just posted that Greg Walker will be taking pre-orders for this pkg. Don't know the US price though, they suggest emailing first.
    http://synphonicmusic.com/
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    Pendragon already announced the new album - "Love Over Fear" - for release in February.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I'm a sucker for a new Pendragon album. Even a so so Pendragon album still grabs my attention and gives me happiness.
    The bit I've emboldened and italicized from your quote captures my sentiments exactly when I pick up many an album from bands that I already have much, if not all, of their discography. Yes, you often know what to expect. It's often a little less glorious than previous records. It can be derided by the Prog faithful as "not progressing" or "plagiarizing its own sound" or whatever. But, still, it can grab my attention and give me happiness.

    Forgive my waxing philosophical...please carry on with the coming Pendragon box set!

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    Pendragon - The First 40 Years

    I got this set in the mail today. Pendragon has sold out all their own stock, but I got a copy from SYN-PHONIC. They might have more. It’s really nicely made, with good notes and photos.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    I got this set in the mail today. Pendragon has sold out all their own stock, but I got a copy from SYN-PHONIC. They might have more. It’s really nicely made, with good notes and photos.



    Wow, that's beautiful, thanks for posting.
    Let us know what you think of the new version cds.

    They did announce on Facebook the other day after these sold out, they are considering a second batch.
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    Are you concerned about the 2nd Forty Years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camelogue View Post
    Are you concerned about the 2nd Forty Years?
    Personally, I'm a senior citizen and I'm more concerned about the next 40 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Wow, that's beautiful, thanks for posting.
    Let us know what you think of the new version cds.

    They did announce on Facebook the other day after these sold out, they are considering a second batch.
    I forgot, they definitely ARE doing a second run.

    I listened to the new disk of The World today. It sounded very good! Nick Barrett remixed the album, and they re-recorded the drums with their new drummer. The drums on the original aren’t bad, but they’re pretty basic and sound sort of flat. The new drums are a little busier and sound great. Also, I forget why but Barrett re-recorded all the keyboards too, playing them himself. They actually sound really good. He said he tried to use sounds of the time when it was originally recorded, and it worked. Overall it sounds cleaner, has more punch, and is very powerful at the right times. I love that album!

    Also, the book is really well made, with good choices for paperstock, and a wealth of old photos. It’s one of the few of these big book packages where it seems well thought out, looks good, and everything is there for a reason.

    Haven’t listened to the remixed Men Who Climb Mountains yet, but Barrett explains that while the album was well recorded, he felt he put in too many layers of sound and he tried to strip away some unnecessary stuff and let it breath more. And people are saying the live show included is one of the best live Pendragon recordings they’ve heard.

    Am I concerned about the next 40 years? Long live neoprog!

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    Thanks for the review on The World remix. I wasn't aware he had done so much change with it by adding/removing keyboard/drums etc.
    I remember reading Nick explain his writing/recording process for a new record.
    I guess he actually writes all the keyboard parts as well, which I had assumed those were Clive's contributions to a song. But I guess Clive copies the parts for the studio recording and for live performance.

    I love The World album as well, seemed pretty darn good the way it was originally. To me you can really hear Nick's maturity in writing, arranging and performing that album. It sort of set the bar for any future albums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Thanks for the review on The World remix. I wasn't aware he had done so much change with it by adding/removing keyboard/drums etc.
    I remember reading Nick explain his writing/recording process for a new record.
    I guess he actually writes all the keyboard parts as well, which I had assumed those were Clive's contributions to a song. But I guess Clive copies the parts for the studio recording and for live performance.

    I love The World album as well, seemed pretty darn good the way it was originally. To me you can really hear Nick's maturity in writing, arranging and performing that album. It sort of set the bar for any future albums.
    I recently re-read Nick's notes in this release. Apparently, a lot of the keyboard parts were missing from the original 24-track master tapes, so that's why they needed to be rerecorded, and Clive was on tour at the time, so Nick has to re-learn them and re-record them himself. But he did write them as well.

    I'm now listening to the live show they recorded for this set. It really is a good one. It contains mostly the tracks you'd expect, but also a few of the songs from the first two albums, the EP, etc., and in general those are more convincing here than on those original releases. I don't listen to what they released prior to The World much at all, because IMO it's just not as good as what came later. Also, there are only a couple of songs from Pure and Passion, but I'm not too keen on those two albums so that's fine by me. Overall this show is great, and a suitable representation and celebration of the band's first 40 years. Some people griped about the high cost of this set (about $100), but I think for the cost, what you get is well worthwhile for big fans of Pendragon: five CDs and one of the nicest-looking and most thoughtfully put-together "earbooks" I've seen. Plus, I believe it was a pretty limited release, so it cost them more to produce per copy.

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