Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 26 to 43 of 43

Thread: AAJ Review: WoodstockóBack To The Garden: 50th Anniversary Experience

  1. #26
    Member Emeritus (A.M.P.) rcarlberg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    5,444
    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    The second kind of smiles and says that, from what he remembers of it, it was an awesome time. Though he sheepishly admits to spending some time in the OD tent.
    The old “if you can remember it you weren’t there” joke.

  2. #27
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Iowa City IA
    Posts
    1,309
    I can't believe they limited the full box to fewer than 2000 copies! I knew as soon as I saw the Rhino link in John's review what I was going to see: SOLD OUT.

    The producers have created something truly historic with this set. The whole f#$%ing festival. The most iconic festival in the history of festivals. In one box. Unbelievable. Given that the Dead can easily sell 10K copies of various non-historic tour boxes for $150-$200 on a regular basis I'm surprised they didn't shoot for that number. I bet I'd still be seeing SOLD OUT!

  3. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    I skimmed your review hoping to get back to it and read it more thoroughly when I have more time. But I had a question about the footage used for Hendrix's Star-Spangled banner in the original film as well as the Director's Cut. The cameraman apparently seems to forget that Hendrix PLAYS THE GUITAR! Quite well, I might add. So why does the footage only show Jimi mostly in the lower right corner of the screen, his hands offscreen? And on Youtube, I've seen great footage of him from the front of the stage, clearly showing everything he is doing. Why wasn't this footage used in the original film?
    Good question! But, of course, the 50th Anniversary series can't answer that question, given its audio-only

    Thanks for investing even just some of your time to scan the review...I do hope, if you're so inclined, that you'll return to it at a more suitable time and read it in its entirety. That said, it absolutely is a bear, so understand completely if you don't!!

    Cheers!
    John
    John Kelman
    Senior Contributor, All About Jazz since 2004
    Freelance writer/photographer

  4. #29
    Member Emeritus (A.M.P.) rcarlberg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    5,444
    Half a million people went, but many more wished they had.

  5. #30
    Member progholio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    st louis
    Posts
    517
    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    The Iron Butterfly story is priceless.

    And big thank you to jkelman for the very detailed article, i really want the big box badly but i'm with Lopez - i can't afford it, it's sold out so i will pass.

  6. #31
    Member progholio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    st louis
    Posts
    517
    Quote Originally Posted by arturs View Post
    I can't believe they limited the full box to fewer than 2000 copies! I knew as soon as I saw the Rhino link in John's review what I was going to see: SOLD OUT.

    The producers have created something truly historic with this set. The whole f#$%ing festival. The most iconic festival in the history of festivals. In one box. Unbelievable. Given that the Dead can easily sell 10K copies of various non-historic tour boxes for $150-$200 on a regular basis I'm surprised they didn't shoot for that number. I bet I'd still be seeing SOLD OUT!
    I'm sure if you're patient you could always score a box on Ebay

  7. #32
    Member Staun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Milwaukee, WI
    Posts
    1,253
    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    Now those people I've heard of. Did Ian Anderson really say that?
    The older I get, the better I was.

  8. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    The Moody Blues were included on the original Wallkill poster as performers, but decided to back out after being booked in Paris the same weekend.

    I have the Wallkill poster and there are no bands listed.
    The White Zone is for loading and unloading only. If you got to load or unload go to the White Zone.

  9. #34
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Iowa City IA
    Posts
    1,309
    Quote Originally Posted by progholio View Post
    I'm sure if you're patient you could always score a box on Ebay
    Want to start a PE pool about what the 38 CD box is going to sell for on Ebay six months from now if they don't print any more of them? Prize could be my old beat up and scratched up 3 LP Woodstock set.

    My guess is $5K.

    I admit at $898 in all likelihood I wasn't going to end up buying the big one either. But damn when I clicked on the link I had a serious case of box set fever. Absent the SOLD OUT it just might have happened before I could stop myself.

  10. #35
    Jazzbo manquť Mister Triscuits's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Utopia
    Posts
    2,396
    Quote Originally Posted by arturs View Post
    I admit at $898 in all likelihood I wasn't going to end up buying the big one either. But damn when I clicked on the link I had a serious case of box set fever. Absent the SOLD OUT it just might have happened before I could stop myself.
    I'd love to have it, but I know in reality I'd spend a three-day weekend listening to the whole thing front to back and then probably never listen to it again. Plus I need to stop buying jumbo box sets because I simply don't have room. I was very close to pulling the trigger on the 10-CD set, until I compared it with the 6-CD and 4-CD sets that I already have, and found that there wasn't all that much stuff on it that wasn't already on those.

  11. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by progholio View Post
    The Iron Butterfly story is priceless.

    And big thank you to jkelman for the very detailed article, i really want the big box badly but i'm with Lopez - i can't afford it, it's sold out so i will pass.
    Thank you for the kind words and for taking the time to read it!

    I'd have loved the big box, too...but I couldn't afford the 38-disc version and there weren't any promos available (though this was my first time working with a Rhino publicist, and they seem pretty over the moon about the coverage, so maybe next time they'll be more willing to provide it...even if only a digital copy, which I'd be totally happy with as long as CD quality or better).

    Indeed and in fact, the 10CD box is a much more affordable but still very enthralling, "you are there" experience. Couple that with the full shows slowly being released digitally, so in a way better in that you can pick and choose and skip those that aren't of any interest, and the 10CD box plus selected full shows may we'll be a good option too.
    John Kelman
    Senior Contributor, All About Jazz since 2004
    Freelance writer/photographer

  12. #37
    Member Emeritus (A.M.P.) rcarlberg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    5,444
    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    I have the Wallkill poster and there are no bands listed.
    Different poster.

  13. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by arturs View Post
    I can't believe they limited the full box to fewer than 2000 copies! I knew as soon as I saw the Rhino link in John's review what I was going to see: SOLD OUT.
    Indeed...though you might be surprised to learn that there were still copies available in the week leading up to street, and it only sold out a couple days before it was released.
    John Kelman
    Senior Contributor, All About Jazz since 2004
    Freelance writer/photographer

  14. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by progholio View Post
    I'm sure if you're patient you could always score a box on Ebay
    They're already there...for 3-4x the original sticker price, and I expect that to only rise as time goes on....
    John Kelman
    Senior Contributor, All About Jazz since 2004
    Freelance writer/photographer

  15. #40
    Member Emeritus (A.M.P.) rcarlberg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    5,444
    I wonder how many of the box sets actually sold to the public, and how many were "held back" by the label in order to sell them anonymously at a much higher price and thus recoup their costs? I mean, if they expected a lot of interest they would have printed ten thousand copies and recouped their costs that way.

  16. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits View Post
    I'd love to have it, but I know in reality I'd spend a three-day weekend listening to the whole thing front to back and then probably never listen to it again. Plus I need to stop buying jumbo box sets because I simply don't have room. I was very close to pulling the trigger on the 10-CD set, until I compared it with the 6-CD and 4-CD sets that I already have, and found that there wasn't all that much stuff on it that wasn't already on those.
    Actually, there's 90 tracks never before released commercially, making it plenty worthwhile, at least IMO. Add significantly upgraded mixes and masters, and then really our older releases to shame, and in a 12"x12" hardcover book (with only 64 pages so not too thick) and its also relatively good when it comes to space. Alternatively, the high res digital version is reasonably priced at ProStudioMasters and it takes up no space at all..other than you hard drive (!).

    Nit trying to be a shill, but comparing this new box to past releases is really not a good one, based on my experience (they provided me the 10CD set digitally, along with the 38-disc book in PDF format, but I ended up buying it in high res. So the only place I'm ahead is wrt the book. But beyond that, it was well worth buying in high res. And since they are selling each day separately, you might skip, say, the first day as, st least for me, the only set that's really a keeper for me is Tim Hardin's (and with Ralph Towner & Glen Moore in the band, how could I not?), so I bought the entire set, again digitally and in high res.
    John Kelman
    Senior Contributor, All About Jazz since 2004
    Freelance writer/photographer

  17. #42
    Member Jay.Dee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Barcelona
    Posts
    327
    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    I wonder how many of the box sets actually sold to the public, and how many were "held back" by the label in order to sell them anonymously at a much higher price and thus recoup their costs?
    They seemingly sold more copies than actually printed, as there are already people reporting their pre-orders got cancelled... albeit without any refund in sight! Moreover, many customers outside the US (like me) have been informed about a shipment delay of unspecified length...

    They apparently underestimated the interest and the logistics. And I am pretty sure that a lower price and less elaborate package would sell much higher number of copies worldwide.

    It's a one giant mess.

  18. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    Different poster.
    Something's not right here. Could this be a legit poster? I ask, because David Edward Byrd's (who did the original) story doesn't quite align with this. The town of Woodstock voted against the show and they had to call in a new artist who did the iconic one.

    In the spring of 1969, Woodstock Ventures asked me to do a poster for the large outdoor concert they were planning for the village of Woodstock, NY. in August of that year. I based the poster on Ingre’s La Source and surrounded that image with cupids, flowers and hearts in jewel-tone colors. After I delivered the art to the printer in late June, I left for a month in the Caribbean to a town with 30 people and no telephone. During this time, the town of Woodstock forbade the show and it had to be moved to Max Yasgur's farm. As I was not available to do a new poster, it was done by another artist, and appropriately became very famous, while this version is mostly forgotten.
    Black ink, transparent dyes, tempera. Central drawing on buff paper in colored pencil.


    So, how could the new design have the old location?
    The White Zone is for loading and unloading only. If you got to load or unload go to the White Zone.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •