Still good though.Originally Posted by Lopez
Still good though.
Anyone I have ever played "Art Bears" for totally thought it was horrible. Complete nonsense, out of key, sounds dreadful etc. So it's been dismissed by more
people I know than people who like it. I am talking about must normal people, not music professional music critics. I like it to some degree. It's interesting to listen to at times, but limited for me also.
^ Progdreamer, the Art Bears (without quotation marks) are - and not in mere fringe circuits - considered a semi-legendary name in avant-garde rock. Not because of any "extremity" of sound, but due to the fact that they emerged from an already established tradition for radical experimentation stemming from a very specific circle of musicians and performers seeking other means and goals than, say, "symphonic" rock. These were not only serious musicians but serious artiists per sé - there were no "rock star" aspirations at play.
By the end of the 70s there were numerous artists following this trail; in the UK, the US, France, Italy, the South Americas and Eastern Europe. Many of these acts would apply plain music- and art theory directly on their source matter, consequently forming an apporach to their medium which had little in common with the overall 'mimesis' of popular music ("prog" included). This all basically started with Zappa, Captain Beefheart and Van Dyke Parks, and it's a trail which still runs to this very day and continues to develop and progress.
Stick around and you'll get to read about countless such artists. They're worth it.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
You think I actually care about "setting everyone straight"? I made a statement. If you agree, great, if you don't agree, great.
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What you did was fart into someone else's thread to moralize subjectively on how little the contents of the thread mean to you personally. An act which sometimes works to enhance a discussion, but often doesn't.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
You thread crapped. It happens. You got called out for it. It happens.
If you're actually reading this then chances are you already have my last album but if NOT and you're curious:
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Animals as leaders shoud be within this scope?
Definitely windows-rolled-up evolved music
Would Ruins or Koenjihyakkei qualify? Some of it sounds pretty alien to me, although its origins can probably be traced (by folks smarter than me).
Koenjihyakkei should qualify on merits of the name alone. That's an 'evolved' name there!Would Ruins or Koenjihyakkei qualify? Some of it sounds pretty alien to me, although its origins can probably be traced (by folks smarter than me).
I pretty much fell in love with Hopes and Fears and Winter Songs from my first listen. Mind you, I had already been eased into the world of Art Bears via Henry Cow (and some other avant-garde extremities like the Cage/Tudor piece I posted above). The World as It Is Today, well...I kind of need to be in the mood for that one, but it is an exceptional work in its own way.
Confirmed Bachelors: the dramedy hit of 1883...
Anything from Tatsuya Yoshida should fit here!
^ THE most weirdo venture by my fave muppet & crew:
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
Catching up on this subject, which escaped my radar, since I hadn't posted in it.
Yeah, a lot of stuff that YOU posted seems to go in my pigeonholing of post-rock (I suppose you know of Tarentel or the Constellation record label stable: GYBE8 and so on), which I tend to think encapsulates a lot of "drone" music
This Ben Neill had me thinking of minimalism, and more specifically of Terry Riley, until the beat appears in the last quarter of the track.
I suppose you're well aware of Riley, Glass, etc , and the rest of minimalism, so I won't delve into that.
I'd also file them in the encapsulating and all-englobing Post-rock pigeonhole, though I hear the odd Industrial touch in there
Have you heard of 48 Cameras? it was a correspondence project - sending the tapes to each other for their contribution ... a bit like a cadavre exquis - but often worked great. (a few of those dudes were buddies some 20 years ago - I even tinkled a few notes (uncredited) at Calogero's place on their Garlic release - , but we drifted apart)
https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/48_cameras
https://48cameras.bandcamp.com/
I'd agree that often, studio recordings don't capture the live things... I had to see VdGG and GG playing their stuff to actually understand it and love it.
As for the Dutch project 5 Eyes, these Orange Blossom (best encapsulated as "world/trip-hop", IMHO) dudes guys gravitated around the 48 Cameras around the years I was around
I'd be more curious to listen to the stuff they sampled, though the results sound ok/good, even if Iat the path they borrowed to get to destination.
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
“Pleasure and pain can be experienced simultaneously,” she said, gently massaging my back as we listened to her Coldplay CD.
I could add music I might like. Besides that I agree.
Exactly. Tastes change, and evolve as you get exposed to more music.
But if I don't know something and listen to it for the first time, I might decide I like it, don't like it, or it might grow on me (which falls in the category 'music I might like')
Here's a piece of music that has thoroughly evolved...
Sorry, left out the "D"
Cobra handling and cocaine use are a bad mix.
This is as challenging as it gets and is certainly music to listen to when no one else is around who has no conception music like this exists:
I'm not lazy. I just work so fast I'm always done.
Challenging ≠ evolved. See post #58
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Diamanda Galas--All the Way
Plinth--Music for Small Lighthouses
Dave Clarkson--Music for Lighthouses
What he said
And the code is a play, a play is a song, a song is a film, a film is a dance...
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