Do I have to put Sventonio / Juba / daoubourg all on ignore, or does one ignore work for all of him?
Do I have to put Sventonio / Juba / daoubourg all on ignore, or does one ignore work for all of him?
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
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Kayak's Merlin (Bard Of The Unseen version, 2003) is an insane piece of music.
Someone taking bets on how many Posts he can still do before being baned again?
Metalized Symphonic rock at its best!
I wonder why nobody mentioned Pain of Salvation's 'Be' since it's a Prog Metal masterpiece of group & orchestra stuff.
This IS THE Group & Orchestra + Choir Standard:
https://youtu.be/usQem53fDH8
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^ I was always more of a Rime of the Ancient Mariner man, Udi. Or Nurses Songs With Elephant. Or White Horse.
And I too got Star's End due to Cutler's participation, along with Bedford's association with the Canterbury scene back then.
I should revisit, but I suspect I'm still unprepared for that grotesque Telecaster attack in the middle of dense orchestral timbre.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
Star's End is quite good and as Mike Oldfield -fanboy I of course also love his part in this opus.
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The recent trend of group + orchestra has not been terribly successful in my ears. At least not for the bigger names that have tried it (Metallica and Kiss come to mind).
But, it's been done right at times.
Some of Elton John's orchestral additions have been very good (though those were added later to prerecorded tracks).
Peter Gabriel's New Blood outing was terrific, but that was orchestra only, no rock band.
I never have heard the Deep Purple track (Concerto for Group and Orchestra). Perhaps I'll give that a listen now.
Paul Buckmaster worked his magic over many of Elton's early albums and the songs you picked were great. A few more standouts are
If you can get past his tattered vocals, his Live in Australia with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra displays a group and orchestra recorded very well.
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Is that Rick Wakeman on the Hammond just before the 5 minute mark in Madman Across the Water? Paul Buckmaster is terrific. Another of his Elton John arrangements I like is Have Mercy on the Criminal. He also arranged the strings on Bowie’s Space Oddity, which I think brought him to Elton’s attention. He won a Grammy Award for best arrangement in 2002, for Train’s Drops of Jupiter. And he did a couple of film scores, including Terry Gilliam’s 12 Monkeys. Worked with Miles Davis on his 1972 album In the Corner (with Corea, McLaughlin etc.), although the musicians supposedly reworked his arrangements a lot, despite Buckmaster being in the studio with them.
Paul Buckmaster also worked on Angelo Branduardi's debut, which also has Joel Vandroogenbroeck (Brainticket) on flute
This has been in my rotation of late, and it is definitely one of the albums I will hold up as a paragon of “orchestral rock.” It is truly a magnificent work to behold; my only complaint would be that there’s not enough Francesco!
I was prepared to write this one off as a gimmick, particularly given the late date, but I was surprised to hear how inspired it was. Not a patch on their 70s work, but better than any of us expected for sure.And, of course and absolutely obviously, that one Yes album.
There’s also Nearly Human; a deliberately maximalist album with strings and brass done as a reaction to the Korg Workstation “band in a box” recordings proliferating at the time. Not prog, but I love it; one of his best albums with some of his finest songs. He was truly inspired to create something grand.
It may be heresy to say so here, but DP truly sucked at the “classical rock” shtick. Only once they dropped all the arty pretensions and sallied forth as a straight-ahead heavy rock band did they begin to excel. Somewhat surprising, as isn’t Jon Lord classically trained? Why do Concerto and Gemini Suite suck so badly, then? Sarabande was good, but weren’t the band toast by then?I find the worst effort in this genre is Deep Purple's "Concerto". I find it truly unlistenable, but I give them a break because they were innovators. On paper the idea was cool.
And some pretty awful ones. Some of the orchestrations on that one are, as our friends across the pond are fond of putting it, extremely “naff.” Stuff like “Peak Hour” sounds like the kind of music you used to hear in the background of educational films and family restaurants.
The Enid were kind of the inversion of this; light neo-classical music played on “rock” instruments.
I think we have the answer to our question. Now I’m taking bets to see how many days before he pops up again in another guise.
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I am quite fond of his work on Judie Tzuke’s Welcome to the Cruise album. Off-topic (but related to another thread), but he plays a sublime cello solo on Neil Ardley’s Kaleidoscope of Rainbows.
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On the flip side - I love seeing classical music performed live & don't want pesky electric guitars infecting my Mozart. :P
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Saw the 1st of two shows tonight, Rick Wakeman with full orchestra and choir (plus rock ensemble) playing Journey to the Centre of the Earth for the last time (in the UK at least). It was magnificent.
Just bought Stern Combo Meißen - Bilder einer Ausstellung (Pictures at an exhibition) The Rock Version Live, which is performed with an orchestra and a choir
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