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    Quote Originally Posted by Udi Koomran View Post
    roger Trigaux named his cat Gris Grris
    that is how much he loved this album
    GREAT anecdote!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
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    Everything else was enunciated well enough to be understood, but not those phrases.
    Weirdly pronounced English? Mangled Louisiana French? African phrases from voodoo rituals? Nonsense words that sounded right? Only Dr. John knew.
    The Humble Pie version doesn't help much with this aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    The Roky thread got an anemic response, and in many respects, he was a giant.
    But he was a giant of a whole different, and opposing, aesthetic. Of raw primitivism, of musical eccentricity rooted in drug abuse and borderline sanity, of "authenticity", of the whole Hipster Rock Critics' Favorite trope. The people who love him, I would suspect, have nothing but contempt for any and all prog; the one artist they might follow that some of us do is Captain Beefheart, and they'd follow him for completely different reasons than we do.

    So I can see why few here would take much notice of Roky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
    But he was a giant of a whole different, and opposing, aesthetic. Of raw primitivism, of musical eccentricity rooted in drug abuse and borderline sanity, of "authenticity", of the whole Hipster Rock Critics' Favorite trope. The people who love him, I would suspect, have nothing but contempt for any and all prog...
    This is 100% conjecture. You're projecting while simultaneously being defensive.

    Roky was Roky. He was a one of a kind in a lot of ways that were musical as well as extra-musical. I really don't understand the need to drag other stuff into it. Maybe, like me, many people here aren't familiar with him enough to weigh in on that thread. I don't know. I only know that the stuff you posted about his fans isn't germane and is conjecture.

    FWIW: The one huge Roky / Thirteenth Floor fan I am pals with is mostly a huge prog prog fan - much more than me - with Mike Oldfield, Genesis, Tangerine Dream, King Crimson, etc being particular favorites. Along with Roky and Joe Meek....
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    He started out playing the guitar but got part of a finger shot off one night. He was one of the most interesting rock 'n' roll characters you'd ever want to interview. RIP to an American legend. Trickology!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
    But he was a giant of a whole different, and opposing, aesthetic. Of raw primitivism, of musical eccentricity rooted in drug abuse and borderline sanity, of "authenticity", of the whole Hipster Rock Critics' Favorite trope. The people who love him, I would suspect, have nothing but contempt for any and all prog; the one artist they might follow that some of us do is Captain Beefheart, and they'd follow him for completely different reasons than we do.

    So I can see why few here would take much notice of Roky.
    I think that you're overthinking it. Most PE posters don't even acknowledge Psych as ever happening (hyperbole to illustrate a fact,) and half of those that do (erroneously) think the genre is a sub-genre of Prog-Rock. I'd think it more likely that most here are unfamiliar with the Elevators and the rest of the whole Psychedelic scene. (And I'm not holding myself up as an expert, to be sure.)
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    Loved Dr. John's appearance in Treme, which made the soundtrack of Season 2:



    Play it again in "heaven", mister.

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    RIP. Never really a fan. I've only heard ....I was in the right place, but it was the wrong time.......Always loved the guitar solo. Anyway, RIP.

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    Dr. John had a great run making fine records since he got off the junk. The sleeper of the bunch is Anutha Zone. It seemed to slip between the cracks, and it doesn't feature a whole lot of piano playing. But I love the songs and overall vibe of this record. The Ellington tribute is a favorite as well, as is Trippin' Live. RIP Mac
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    ^ The "primitive" remark by Baribrotzer was directed at Roky Erickson, not Dr. John, and Steve's post was likewise about Roky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    ^ The "primitive" remark by Baribrotzer was directed at Roky Erickson, not Dr. John, and Steve's post was likewise about Roky.
    My bad. I adjusted my comments in tribute to the late Doctor.
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    Not a problem. Just clarifying.

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    saw him live once, in a festival in Charleroi around 1990/91 (the site was quite cool-looking, in a parking under two then-unused highway access ramps, the stage excellently placed in the symetrical setting), between Alvin Lee, than Mink/willy Deville than him, before Status Quo finishing the night and Zachary Richard was also earlier on the bill (mid-afternoon).
    I wasn't overwhelmed by any of them (even Alvin was not in excellent form) but Quo was in its usual shape and quite fun - easy to see why kids were nuts about them.
    Dr John's set had a very Mardi Gras/New Orleans feel with go-go dancers, and Zacchary came back for a couple of tracks, and DeVille as well. Although I wasn't overly familiar with his stuff back then (I knew a bit, but owned nothing of his back then), it was obvious in retrospect that he didn't play anything from his first five albums
    These three probably came in a "touring package" - the more I think about it now, the more it seems that it was "sold" as such: the New Orleans Revue.

    Outside Alvin (which I'd seen 7 or 8 times before and a few times since), it's the only time I ever saw all of those acts, so I'm quite happy I did attend it that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udi Koomran View Post
    roger Trigaux named his cat Gris Grris
    that is how much he loved this album
    GREAT anecdote!

    Not meaning to poop on the Doctor's homage (Udi would know better than I do), but there are hundreds of cats called that way in Belgium (and probably a few thousands in France), but it's got nothing to do with The Doctor.
    Indeed, many two-tone grey cats are simply called Gris Gris because of the fur colour and a few hundreds more because of the good luck (gri-gri) amulets - as opposed to the black cats who are supposed to bring bad luck.

    Anyways, I vote for Udi's version, because I love it, and I know Roger would've definitely thought of that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
    But he was a giant of a whole different, and opposing, aesthetic. Of raw primitivism, of musical eccentricity rooted in drug abuse and borderline sanity, of "authenticity", of the whole Hipster Rock Critics' Favorite trope. The people who love him, I would suspect, have nothing but contempt for any and all prog; the one artist they might follow that some of us do is Captain Beefheart, and they'd follow him for completely different reasons than we do.

    So I can see why few here would take much notice of Roky.
    Really?
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    FWIW, I never heard of Roky Erickson. Dr. John, on the other hand, was virtually a household name for some time.
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    Live at Park Den Brandt, Antwerp, Belgium; August 15, 2015. Very good FM broadcast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane
    Not meaning to poop on the Doctor's homage (Udi would know better than I do), but there are hundreds of cats called that way in Belgium (and probably a few thousands in France), but it's got nothing to do with The Doctor.
    Indeed, many two-tone grey cats are simply called Gris Gris because of the fur colour and a few hundreds more because of the good luck (gri-gri) amulets - as opposed to the black cats who are supposed to bring bad luck.
    Since the advent of Game Of Thrones, all cats in the English-speaking world are now called "Hodor," for reasons that are obvious to cat owners.
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    Can this be the swan song? The final elbow?

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    Just watched that Iko Iko video. Damn that was good. Jeff Healy and David Sanborn kill it, and Dr. and those other cats too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
    The people who love him, I would suspect, have nothing but contempt for any and all prog
    But you see, everybody except from prog-aficionados has nothing but contempt for prog. This is because it is secluded in its own "little corner of the world", refusing to acknowledge anything that defies its norm and - in turn - refused any acknowledgment by the wider "pool" of rock music. The narrative that segregates the genres continues to thrive.

    The exact "characterizations" you name for Roky Erickson apply to so many others...Syd Barrett comes in mind. But no, he's English, he was an original member (or the original member) of Pink Floyd, so he belongs somehow to the good Prog guys. Roky Erickson was no less creative or inventive as an artist than Syd, but still there are people in the US who don't even know his name. I swear I didn't know or imagine of his low status in the States, so it comes as a shock - when Roky is a name recognized in Europe even by mainstream rock fans.

    To me all these artists - Dr John, Roky Erickson, Tom Rapp, Tim Buckley (to name just a couple of incredibly important musical figures that seem like they never existed for people in here) are part of the same revolutionary, musical movement. They need to be discussed and appreciated in the same context. That's my take on things at least.

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    Can this be the swan song? The final elbow?

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    Just saw this on YT - play it loud!

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    I saw him as support for Johnny Winter (in Copenhagen) many years ago.
    Johnny stepped in and they played some tracks from Gris Gris.
    That was so great !

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    Just saw this on YT - play it loud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    I saw him as support for Johnny Winter (in Copenhagen) many years ago.
    Johnny stepped in and they played some tracks from Gris Gris.
    That was so great !
    I am sooo jealous. They did that brief European tour together ('86 or '87 I believe). I have a broadcast of one show where they played "Walking on Gilded Splinters." So great!
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