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    Now, how about that maple species Acer platanoides Crimson King, that somebody once claimed was also referenced by the shape of the photo collage featured on the inlay of 'Islands'?

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    τί ἐστιν ὃ μίαν ἔχον φωνὴν τετράπουν καὶ δίπουν καὶ τρίπουν γίνεται;

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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    I always understood that the Crimson King was a reference to the Devil/Satan.
    It’s hard to avoid that conclusion, especially since Robert Fripp seems to embrace if (“the man with an aim” and all that).

    However I’m sure I’ve heard or read an interview with Peter Sinfield where he clearly refuted that the name was a reference to the devil. He just wanted something intimidating and majestic, and this name worked well for those purposes. Or something like that. (I wish I had a link.)

    I admit that as a huge King Crimson fan and a Christian (my conversion to Christianity coming much later than my falling in love with the music of King Crimson), this issue makes me uncomfortable.

    I know issues of faith and obedience to God are laughable to many enlightened progheads, but they’re not to me. God help me, I love the music!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sphinx View Post
    Now, how about that maple species Acer platanoides Crimson King, that somebody once claimed was also referenced by the shape of the photo collage featured on the inlay of 'Islands'?

    Crimson King Maple image_1257.jpg

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    We have a 50+ year old Crimson King maple next to our house in the back yard.

    Awesome majestic tree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the winter tree View Post
    I've always really liked "Formentera Lady".
    Me too! I'm surprised to hear that Mr. Fripp dislikes it. It really captures a beautiful mood. One of my faves

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Crimson King View Post
    I admit that as a huge King Crimson fan and a Christian (my conversion to Christianity coming much later than my falling in love with the music of King Crimson), this issue makes me uncomfortable.

    I know issues of faith and obedience to God are laughable to many enlightened progheads, but they’re not to me. God help me, I love the music!
    Since there is room for interpretation regarding the name, couldn't you choose whatever interpretation fits your personal beliefs and enjoy the music without feeling uncomfortable ?
    I don't think much about the band name, but I can relate to the sense of mystery, majesty and creativity that it conveys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interstellar View Post
    Since there is room for interpretation regarding the name, couldn't you choose whatever interpretation fits your personal beliefs and enjoy the music without feeling uncomfortable ?
    That’s right! It doesn’t have to be referencing the devil, it can be referencing illicit, illegal drugs!
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    Or, a tree!

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    Maybe they should have went with Blue Meth instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interstellar View Post
    Since there is room for interpretation regarding the name, couldn't you choose whatever interpretation fits your personal beliefs and enjoy the music without feeling uncomfortable ?
    I don't think much about the band name, but I can relate to the sense of mystery, majesty and creativity that it conveys.
    As a Crimhead and Christian myself, this is how I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    That’s right! It doesn’t have to be referencing the devil, it can be referencing illicit, illegal drugs!
    I've bo issue with either

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick L. View Post
    Or, a tree!
    Neither on that one

    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Maybe they should have went with Blue Meth instead?
    Maybe a tad too obvious (what a relief it would to christians that would've had to deny their love to the band, though ), and not aging well enough (who under 40 would know what that refers to?)
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from heroin-addicts to crazy ones

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    Well, I'm a Christian myself and have never felt bothered by King Crimson. I've always thought the name was open to interpretation. They're also a far cry from actual satanic stuff, like the black metal bands (e.g. Mayhem).

    Love KC's music, especially those first four albums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the winter tree View Post
    I've always really liked "Formentera Lady".
    Quote Originally Posted by bill g View Post
    Me too! I'm surprised to hear that Mr. Fripp dislikes it. It really captures a beautiful mood. One of my faves
    Same here! And it's very different, following on the heels of Lizard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daoubourg View Post
    I like Formentera Lady. Well, I've always loved ItCotCK, ItWoP, Lizard and Islands more than LTiA, SaBB and Red. These first four albums are more beautiful imo.
    While I agree in general, I think the single most beautiful Crimsong of the '70s is from SAAB - "The Night Watch".
    Ring the bells, that still can ring,
    Forget your perfect offering.
    There is a crack - a crack in everything.
    That's how the light gets in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    While I agree in general, I think the single most beautiful Crimsong of the '70s is from SAAB - "The Night Watch".
    Absolutely. An utterly beautiful piece of music

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    While I agree in general, I think the single most beautiful Crimsong of the '70s is from SAAB - "The Night Watch".
    That is a lovely track. I think for me the most beautiful may be 'Lady of the Dancing Water'. They had a lot of beautiful music in those days.

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    Always have. "Matte Kudasai," "Heartbeat" "Inner Garden", "One Hand", "Eyes Wide Open" all come to mind.
    Ring the bells, that still can ring,
    Forget your perfect offering.
    There is a crack - a crack in everything.
    That's how the light gets in.

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    Yep, my daughter and I danced to 'Matte Kudesai' at her wedding. Gorgeous song. As are Islands, Bolero-The Peacocks Tale, and Exiles.

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