ELOY - The Vision, The Sword And The Pyre, Part II - August 16, 2019

[Progatron]

Eloy fans, the followup is arriving this summer!

[dropforge]

[helicase]

autobuy

[rickawakeman]

Enjoyed Pt.1. Currently enjoying the double live from a few years back that somehow flew under my radar until now.

[Kanukisbrave]

That double live was amazing! while pt1 was ok (speaking parts were a little off-putting), that Live recording stayed in my home rotation for the longest time. Stellar!

[Rarebird]

I still need part 1.
In Dutch shops it is still rather expensive. It's cheaper from Amazon Germany. Alas I'm not visiting Germany this year, so I have to order it online.

[TCC]

Enjoyed Pt.1. Currently enjoying the double live from a few years back that somehow flew under my radar until now.

The same here!!.
“Reincarnation on Stage” (2014) is a great “live effort” IMO and it isn’t a “best of ... live”.

Friends, need some words/advise with these that I don’t have:

- Planets.
- Time to Turn.
- Performance.
- Metromania.
- Codename Wildgeese.
- Destination.
- The Tides Return Forever.
- Ocean II.
- Visionary.

Thanks in advance,
Regards!.

[Progatron]

Friends, need some words/advise with these that I don’t have:

- Planets.
- Time to Turn.
- Performance.
- Metromania.
- Codename Wildgeese.
- Destination.
- The Tides Return Forever.
- Ocean II.
- Visionary.

Thanks in advance,
Regards!.

To be honest, I like all of those to some degree, with the exception of Codename: Wildgeese, which is barely an Eloy album at all. And it's not on CD anyway, if that's your preferred method. They each have their moments of Eloy brilliance, although perhaps not as consistent as the classic run of 70s albums.

[Rajaz]

Must BUY. I got 'em all and this one is no exception!

[TCC]

To be honest, I like all of those to some degree, with the exception of Codename: Wildgeese, which is barely an Eloy album at all. And it's not on CD anyway, if that's your preferred method. They each have their moments of Eloy brilliance, although perhaps not as consistent as the classic run of 70s albums.

Ok, I see, thanks!.
“Codename Wildgeese” is the music of a soundtrack and without Frank Bornemann?, for completists or not even for that?.

Thanks also Rajaz!

Pura vida!.

[helicase]

The same here!!.
“Reincarnation on Stage” (2014) is a great “live effort” IMO and it isn’t a “best of ... live”.

Friends, need some words/advise with these that I don’t have:

- Planets.
- Time to Turn.
- Performance.
- Metromania.
- Codename Wildgeese.
- Destination.
- The Tides Return Forever.
- Ocean II.
- Visionary.

Thanks in advance,
Regards!.

I'd rank them as follows:
Excellent, definitely get these: Planets, Ocean II
(Very) good: Time to Turn, Visionary
(Fairly) good: Performance, Metromania
Completists only (especially Tides): Destination, The Tides Return Forever

[TCC]

I'd rank them as follows:
Excellent, definitely get these: Planets, Ocean II
(Very) good: Time to Turn, Visionary
(Fairly) good: Performance, Metromania
Completists only (especially Tides): Destination, The Tides Return Forever

Thanks Helicase!. (will do the homework!)

[Rarebird]

I think I prefer Tides over the other ones.

[Kanukisbrave]

I'd rank them
- Planets.
- Time to Turn.
- Destination.
- The Tides Return Forever.
- Performance.
- Metromania.
- Ocean II. (Music's great, Lyrics not so much)
- Visionary. (meh all around)

[Progatron]

Ok, I see, thanks!.
“Codename Wildgeese” is the music of a soundtrack and without Frank Bornemann?, for completists or not even for that?.

I would say not even for completists, to be honest. And again, only vinyl LP, so if that's not your thing you are out of luck.

Completists only (especially Tides): Destination, The Tides Return Forever

Interesting. I thought The Tides Return Forever was a big step up from the two previous albums (three if you count Wildgeese).

I'd rank them
- Planets.
- Time to Turn.
- Destination.
- The Tides Return Forever.
- Performance.
- Metromania.
- Ocean II. (Music's great, Lyrics not so much)
- Visionary. (meh all around)

And I also quite like Visionary, my own ranking would put it a lot higher (and Destination a lot lower). But I do agree that of these choices, Planets and Time To Turn are at the top.

Metromania is worth it for Follow The Light, a cool sounding track that has remained in the live set for many years (and appears on the previously mentioned Reincarnation On Stage, which is indeed an excellent live document).

[zeprogmeister]

I think I prefer Tides over the other ones.

Yep Tides is pretty good imo.

[dropforge]

I'm one of the weirdos who really likes Performance and Metromania.

Codename: Wildgeese is cool for what it is: a Tangerine Dream-esque electronic soundtrack. No, Frank isn't on it. It's Hannes Arkona, Hannes Folberth, and Klaus-Peter Matziol. They didn't ask his permission to use the name, either.

[Rarebird]

I think Planets and Time to turn were the last good albums. With Tides they had a nice return.

[TheH]

I really love Planets which I think is one of the best Eloy Albums.

Time to Turn works (and maybe intended to) as the second Disc of a double Album with Planets.
It's a bit weaker but still good. I think a mix from both Albums would have created a Killer Album.

If you are into Vinyl the HMW issues of those two Albums have much nicer covers.



From then it is going downwards, a lot of so so to okay stuff following.

Get Wildgeese only if you can get for a buck or so

[Rarebird]

I really love Planets which I think is one of the best Eloy Albums.

Time to Turn works (and maybe intended to) as the second Disc of a double Album with Planets.
It's a bit weaker but still good. I think a mix from both Albums would have created a Killer Album.

If you are into Vinyl the HMW issues of those two Albums have much nicer covers.



From then it is going downwards, a lot of so so to okay stuff following.

Get Wildgeese only if you can get for a buck or so

According to the liner-notes they are ment to be a double-album.

I always have the feeling things went downhill when they became less a band and more a Frank Borneman project.

[the ferret]

The same here!!.
“Reincarnation on Stage” (2014) is a great “live effort” IMO and it isn’t a “best of ... live”.

Friends, need some words/advise with these that I don’t have:

- Planets.
- Time to Turn.
- Performance.
- Metromania.
- Codename Wildgeese.
- Destination.
- The Tides Return Forever.
- Ocean II.
- Visionary.

Thanks in advance,
Regards!.

Visionary and Metromania are my favourite Eloy albums.

[infandous]

According to the liner-notes they are ment to be a double-album.

I always have the feeling things went downhill when they became less a band and more a Frank Borneman project.

Seems like they were pretty much a Frank Borneman project by Planets anyway, but I get what you are saying and it seems true.

[infandous]

I'll also add my liking of The Tides Return Forever. Not great, but a decent return to form (the final track is a bit too repetitive for me, but the rest is pretty good).

Ocean II is half good, half dull to my ears. The first 4 tracks are like classic Eloy, the rest seems too meandering and unfocused, IMO. I have not heard Visionary or The Vision, The Sword And The Pyre, Part I. Or that live album for that matter. Guess I need to place an order soon

[gingernut]

I'd rank them
- Planets.
- Time to Turn.
- Destination.
- The Tides Return Forever.
- Performance.
- Metromania.
- Ocean II. (Music's great, Lyrics not so much)
- Visionary. (meh all around)

My take on this:
- Planets. * (Yep just 1 star)
- Time to Turn. *****
- Destination. *
- The Tides Return Forever. ***
- Performance. *
- Metromania. ***
- Ocean II. *****
- Visionary. *

I initially dismissed The Vision, Sword, Pyre but repeated plays show it is better that I thought.

[zeprogmeister]

Part 1 was decent for me but no mindblowing. I'll probably check this one out eventually.