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    Where Should Sun Ra Be Filed?

    His real name was Sonny Blount or something, right? So is "Sun Ra" a total fiction, like Jethro Tull filed under J, or is it a pseudonym like David Bowie, Elton John or Dean Martin?

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    In my filing
    Sun Ra = S
    Howlin’ Wolf = H

    YMMV
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    PS

    File under ‘popular’
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    Where should Sun Ra be filed?

    Outside. You don't want to get any shavings or dust on your living room floor.
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    Under Awesome.

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    Some call him Mister Ra, some call him Mister Ree...

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    I always put him next to Sonship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick L. View Post
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    Now yer talkin'. He legally changed his name Le Sony'r Ra. Anybody who doesn't have the Sleepy Beauty CD might want to grab it on the cheap from Wayside. Its a beautiful record!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarThrower View Post
    He legally changed his name Le Sony'r Ra.
    So theoretically he was in the phonebook under "Ra, Le Sony'r" ?

    Did he have any children? Are they named Moon Ra, Moon Sun Ra, Moon Blount or something different?

    Where do most record shops file him?

    Nice icon BTW!

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    I have so much Sun Ra, that he requires a whole separate CD case. So he's filed under "Sun Ra". Period.

    And his Earth name was Herman Blount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    So theoretically he was in the phonebook under "Ra, Le Sony'r" ?

    Did he have any children? Are they named Moon Ra, Moon Sun Ra, Moon Blount or something different?

    Where do most record shops file him?

    Nice icon BTW!
    "Most record shops" don't exist anymore, but mine files under S. As far as I know he had no children other than his band members. He pretty much led a celibate lifestyle. I was fortunate to see him one time in the mid 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarThrower View Post
    "Most record shops" don't exist anymore, but mine files under S. As far as I know he had no children other than his band members. He pretty much led a celibate lifestyle. I was fortunate to see him one time in the mid 80s.
    I saw him at least 12 times between about 1977 - 1987.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    I saw him at least 12 times between about 1977 - 1987.
    Lucky you! I regret missing Marshall Allen and the Arkestra last January in Rochester. I talked with two guys from Roc at another show in Ithaca and they said it was fantastic!

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    I saw him at the Bottom Line around 1987

    great show!
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    I never got to see Ra, but I did see the Arkestra, led by Marshall Allen, in September 2001. They were selling posters at the show, and I got invited down into the dressing room after the show, and we passed the poster I bought around, and the entire Arkestra signed it for me. I took it home, showed my mom the next day, and she framed it for me (not a fancy frame, but it does the job it's supposed to).

    I've missed them the last couple times they've been here, but I'd love to see them again. Hard to believe Marshall is still leading the band, and doing other gigs besides. He's gotta be, what? 90 something years old?

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    Well, as my nick may indicate I am a pretty big admirer of Sun Ra's music. I have always considered it more a title than a name and hence filed it under S as well...

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    I'm filing him under "R." It appears Sun Ra was the stage name used by Blount, it referred to the man, the leader of the Arkestra, and not to his whole band. I don't know if anyone ever called him, or if he called himself, "Mr. Ra" but this is what makes sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    I don't know if anyone ever called him, or if he called himself, "Mr. Ra" but this is what makes sense to me.
    People / bandmates called him 'Sunny" or "Sonny" [pronounced the same, so hard to be authoritative]
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    So is "Sun Ra" a total fiction, like Jethro Tull filed under J, or is it a pseudonym like David Bowie, Elton John or Dean Martin?
    The former. Or, file by genre under "Afro-Futurism"

    I caught him numerous times in the early 70s when he was a regular at the famous "Slug's" (NYC). I knew someone who hung with them at their Morton St. digs in Philly; apparently very...er...unusual....
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    ^^^ Just be happy that people still listen to Sun Ra...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    His real name was Sonny Blount or something, right? So is "Sun Ra" a total fiction, like Jethro Tull filed under J, or is it a pseudonym like David Bowie, Elton John or Dean Martin?
    I’ve always seen his albums filed under “S” but you know what? Put it where it works for you. If sticking his discs under “R” makes more sense to you, so be it.

    (10cc belongs under “T,” though, NOT before “A.” I will not budge on that point.)

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    Some call him Mister Ra, some call him Mister Ree...
    You can call me Ray...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progbear View Post
    I’ve always seen his albums filed under “S” but you know what? Put it where it works for you. If sticking his discs under “R” makes more sense to you, so be it.

    (10cc belongs under “T,” though, NOT before “A.” I will not budge on that point.)



    You can call me Ray...
    Right. In the end, file your personal collection in whatever way is logical to you.

    The boss won't get on your case.

    I had a friend who filed his albums in order of purchase going back 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arturs View Post
    ^^^ Just be happy that people still listen to Sun Ra...
    +1!.

    Quote Originally Posted by SunshipVoyager1976 View Post
    Right. In the end, file your personal collection in whatever way is logical to you.

    The boss won't get on your case.

    I had a friend who filed his albums in order of purchase going back 20 years.

    Nice!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
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    File under ‘popular’
    Good one !!!!

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