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    Quite a few otherwise respectable bands ruined themselves during the Hair Metal era...no help needed from Phil Collins.
    Phil's lack of hair kept him out of that scene - imagine the REAL carnage otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    Quite a few otherwise respectable bands ruined themselves during the Hair Metal era...no help needed from Phil Collins. Others off the top of my head would include Kiss and Alice Cooper.
    Agreed- record sales notwithstanding the mid-late 80s were pretty dark days for these bands. 'Poison' is another Desmond Child special (co-written) and sounds like it.

    Might be strange to those in the US but although Kiss had OK album sales from about Alive!, 'Crazy Crazy Nights' (a relative flop in their homeland) is probably their biggest hit single in the UK. It's not very good either IMHO. The only other song of theirs I hear as much as that is 'I Was Made For Lovin' You'.
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    In the mid-80s me and my wife had an exchange student from Sweden. He and I bonded over our passion for Iron Maiden. But he would insist that Alice Cooper's "Poison" was a great song. I would just shake my head. Catchy chorus but it was factory glam. And of course it utterly pales compared to the stuff recorded with the old band in the early 70s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    Didn't he have a bodybuilder guitarist who played an axe that doubled as a flamethrower?
    Yup, Kane Roberts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kid_runningfox View Post
    Kane Roberts. Saw Alice numerous times during the late 80s (he seemed to be permanently on tour when not making new albums) with KR. In many respects he was a stock 80s shredder with added horror shtick, but those shows really were great. I think Derek Sherinian might also have been in Alice's band for at least some of that period.
    Yes, Sherinian has been in and out of Cooper's band several times over the years including during this time period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    Seems like Shernian played with lots of people. If I recall correctly, he was in Billy Idol's band the time I saw him (though that was more like 2003).

    I remember seeing a Coop show circa 87 on MTV. There was a bit where he whips out a sword and slashes his arm with it, and another bit where he does this mad scientist schtick, where he creates a robot that then chases him around the stage before he finally kicks it over, destroying it.

    Then I remember another Coop concert I saw, a few years later, where he had this thing where he had this projection screen showing this film. He sings like the first 3/4's or whatever itwas of the song, and then during the guitar solo, they do this illusion where several people in the film appear to step out of the film and into reality, they grab Coop, apparently against his will, and they drag him "into the film", and there's all this action going on in the film with him fighting these guys or something, I forget the details, while the band keeps on playing.

    And yes, I know how the illusion works. Coop, I believe, first started doing variations of it back in the 70's. I think I read that Walt Disney first came up with the idea back in the 40's. You hide behind the screen, and step through it at the strategically appropriate moment, or conversely, you step up to the screen and step through it if you're "stepping into" the film.

    If I'm not mistaken, he also at one point had Kip Winger and Reb Beach in his band, who of course, later formed the band Winger (with Rod Morgenstein of Dixie Dregs/Steve Morse Band fame on drums). I remember seeing Reb and Kip on That Metal Show, and Reb told this story about how Coop's snake once took a dump on Reb's pedal board during a show.
    Kip Winger was a member of Cooper's 80's band along with Kayne Roberts and some of the other Winger guys.

    The MTV show I think you are talking about was filmed in Detroit and was "The Nightmare Returns" tour. It was after Alice had kicked the booze for good, put together a killer band, went full on heavy metal, and went back to a total theatrical production. I saw it in Kalamazoo Michigan and it was a fantastic show. I was standing about 20 feet from the whole robot thing and I still don't know how he pulled that off when he kicked it over. That tour and the Waynes World movie put Cooper back on the map and led to his big comeback in the decade.

    The in and out of the film gag was a different tour, but something he had been doing since back in the 70's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halmyre View Post
    Phil's lack of hair kept him out of that scene - imagine the REAL carnage otherwise.
    He could've worn a wig, like Blackmore currently does.
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    I tried to listen to the first Whitesnake album because of this thread. I gave up halfway through. Just did nothing for me. I'll try the next album. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    I tried to listen to the first Whitesnake album because of this thread. I gave up halfway through. Just did nothing for me. I'll try the next album. We'll see.
    It's so funny, I went to look up things about Whitesnake because of this thread too, and there is an opinion on everything!

    Whitesnake on the top 100 best rock bands list here: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/lanas...st_rock_bands/

    and then Whitesnake on the 50 worst artists in history here: https://gooddeedseats.com/50-worst-a...music-history/ (some funny stuff in this one, like the top image)

    I sort of remember them, the big hair and all, but never got into them much during their popularity. Not my cup of tea.
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    Whitesnake tunes are now ending up in TV commercials. Here I Go Again has been used for a while, but a couple of days ago, I saw one for some kind of drink using Is This Love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    Whitesnake tunes are now ending up in TV commercials. Here I Go Again has been used for a while, but a couple of days ago, I saw one for some kind of drink using Is This Love.
    Ha! That's right, I remember that one! Too funny how some things end up

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowwomn View Post
    It's so funny, I went to look up things about Whitesnake because of this thread too, and there is an opinion on everything!

    Whitesnake on the top 100 best rock bands list here: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/lanas...st_rock_bands/

    and then Whitesnake on the 50 worst artists in history here: https://gooddeedseats.com/50-worst-a...music-history/ (some funny stuff in this one, like the top image)

    I sort of remember them, the big hair and all, but never got into them much during their popularity. Not my cup of tea.
    Well, if you "sort of remember" the "big hair and all", you have to realize that's really a different band than the one I was talking about int he OP. That's the late 80's era band, which was largely a different group from the late 70's-early 80's group.

    But your comment about them being on both "best" and "worst' band lists reminds me of the lists VH-1 did in the 90's. One was the "Most Metal Moments" or something like that. The other was "Least metal moments", which was a list of all the more reputedly "embarrassing" things that various metal bands had done. As I recall the charity record Stars, by Hear N Aid (essentially, the heavy metal version of Do They Know It's Christmas or We Are The World) made both lists. For the "least metal" list, Ted Nugent was commented that he "kicked my own ass for doing that". Yeah, whatever.

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