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    ProgQuebec reissues... what should be the next ones ?

    Just wondering what people think should be the next ProgQuebec reissues ?

    The only ones that I can think of are :

    Le komuso à cordes by Michel Madore and
    Les chants de l'éternité by Claude Peloquin.

    Would like a proper release of Octobre's Survivance but it is
    partly available in a 2cd compilation.

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    Definitely Madore's two albums, that's for sure...

    Aquarelle's two albums are a no-brainer
    Brèche's album sounds like an essential release (but I have the vinyl)
    CANO's third album is also a good choice... but avoid what comes after
    The first Eclipse album (the second one is garbage)
    The first two Connivence (but again, I'm set with the vinyls)
    Dillinger (although I though they were Ontarians) sounds fine also (and I don't have the vinyls either)


    More pure JR/F ... or even pure jazz sometimes... Nébu (2 Lps) Solstice (2Lps) and the next two Orchestre Sympathique

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
    Just wondering what people think should be the next ProgQuebec reissues ?
    I agree with Sean, the Brèche album (Carapace et chair tendre) needs a reissue quite badly. And the Eclipse album, even if only about half of it is good, but the good stuff is phenomenal Moog-heavy space rock. Also: the self-titled album by Le Match, probably one of the first Gentle Giant-styled prog albums in Québec, but folkier than most such. I’d vote for the one album by L’orient d’Ô (synth-heavy sympho-prog), but I seem to be the only one who likes it very much.

    Les chants de l'éternité by Claude Peloquin.
    This is credited to Éternité and is as much Michel Le François’ album as Peloquin’s. There’s at least one female vocalist performing on this, too.

    Would like a proper release of Octobre's Survivance but it is
    partly available in a 2cd compilation.
    The Octobre catalogue is in bad need of a proper reissue program. I think L’autoroute des rêves is the only one to get a proper reissue, and I think both it and the aforementioned compilation are both way out of print. (I transcribed Autoroute from my slightly scratchy vinyl, which seems to have a different cover from the CD.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
    Just wondering what people think should be the next ProgQuebec reissues ?

    The only ones that I can think of are :

    Le komuso à cordes by Michel Madore and
    Les chants de l'éternité by Claude Peloquin.

    Eternité would be wonderfull, I love this album.

    Would also love to have the June Wallack album (i think there is even an unreleased second one).

    I'm greatfull for everything that is comming..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
    Just wondering what people think should be the next ProgQuebec reissues ?
    First - launch the ProgOntario label

    There's still a few gems from Quebec that need a reissue, some of which have been reported here already. But here are some that haven't been reissued yet legitimately:

    Dionysos - Le Grande Jeu. 1971 Jupiter.
    Dionysos - Le Prince Croule. 1972 Zodiaque.
    Pascal Languirand - Minos. 1978 Kebec.
    Pascal Languirand - De Harmonia Universalia. 1980 Minos.
    Pascal Languirand - Vivre Ici Maintenant. 1981 Minos.
    Michel Madore - Le Komuso a Cordes. 1976 Barclay. (This would be my top pick!)
    Michel Madore - La Chambre Nuptiale. 1979 Egg.
    Claude Leveillee - Black Sun. 1978 Polydor.
    Champignons - Premiere Capsule. 1972 GG.
    The Medium - s/t. 1969 Gamma.
    Soular System - Birth of Paradise. 1971 BASF.
    Ungava - s/t. 1977 36 Records.
    Lougarou - s/t. 1976 London.
    Garolou - s/t. 1978 London.
    Breche - Carapace et Chair Tendre. 1979 La Tamanoir.
    Eden - s/t. 1978 Total.
    Connivence - s/t. 1977 Kebec.
    Connivence - II. 1979 Kebec.
    Connivence - III. 1984 Amplitude.
    Syncope - s/t. 1980 private. (A really great one that Hugues turned me onto!)
    Le Match - Légendes. 1975 SonoGram. Later pressed by Trans-Canada.
    Eternité - Les Chants de L'Eternite. 1977 Polydor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    Aquarelle's two albums are a no-brainer
    These actually did come out on Belle Antique (Japan) in 2010. I wasn't pleased with the sound quality at all, but they are legit. I think ProgQuebec was initially involved with trying to get these out, and somewhere along the line, Belle Antique ended up with it. I personally feel that the first Aquarelle is one of the finest albums to ever come from Canada. It took me some years realize that - definitely a grower. If you folks still have a turntable, grab the original LP. It's not expensive and sounds better than the CD by a long shot. I own both versions myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashratom View Post
    First - launch the ProgOntario label

    There's still a few gems from Quebec that need a reissue, some of which have been reported here already. But here are some that haven't been reissued yet legitimately:

    Lougarou - s/t. 1976 London.
    Garolou - s/t. 1978 London.
    Theoretically the first four Garolou (also Ontarian) has been released legit as 2x 2on1 (but there is a missing track in each disc), called Tableaux d'Hier

    Can't remember the label (Just a memory, maybe??)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    Theoretically the first four Garolou (also Ontarian) has been released legit as 2x 2on1 (but there is a missing track in each disc), called Tableaux d'Hier

    Can't remember the label (Just a memory, maybe??)
    OK - I see it now. I didn't realize that! Just A Memory released it in 1991 and then a label called Francor reissued it again in 2001. Thanks for letting me know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashratom View Post
    OK - I see it now. I didn't realize that! Just A Memory released it in 1991 and then a label called Francor reissued it again in 2001. Thanks for letting me know!
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    I need to read my own blog I had forgotten about one of the comments I received under Garolou which stated: "It's debatable these albums were "reissued" on CD: the two volumes of "Tableaux d'hier" (first released by Just a Memory, then Musicor, then possibly Unidisc) paired _most_ of each album with most of their other two studio albums from that era: the Naylor-penned instrumental "Eclipse" is missing from "Lougarou", the 2-minute acoustic stomp of "Alouette" from "Garolou". Sadly, with advancements in CD length, both could have easily fit on the compilations and then some.

    A few years ago, I'd contacted a few of the band members who'd admitted they were discussing an updated rerelease of the albums on CD, as they owned the rights. "Garolou"s assistant recording engineer also voiced interest in helping out. I've yet to hear anything since."

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    I don't know if there will any more re-issues from them. Maybe Stephen can chime in and set the record straight.

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    Well great lists. The only other I can think of is Octobre I'd like to see reissued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    Definitely Madore's two albums, that's for sure...

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    I think they are essential for re-issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill g View Post
    Well great lists. The only other I can think of is Octobre I'd like to see reissued.

    Well, potentially, they were popular enough in Quebec that individual album reissues might be viable.... But I suspect that the two-CD compilation reissued in the late 90's quenched that thirst for many more-casual fans...

    That compilation was certainly not exhaustive (I'd say that only 80% of the tracks of the four albums featured in it were present on it... Fortunately (or not, whether you didn't have it), there was no tracks from Autoroutes Des Rêves in that compilation, since it was released separetely. Arguably AdR was definitely not their best album, IMHO.
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    ProgQuebec reissues

    Ashratom's list is spot on except I must say Solstice-same is not to my taste.

    Dionysos - Le Grande Jeu is screaming for a good reissue.


    Did not know that Soular system was Quebec.




    Here is one that no one knows. I am assuming it is Quebec (perhaps its French since it doesn't turn up on the ProgQuebec site):

    ALAIN MEUNIER "VOYAGE AUX FONDS DE LA MER" '79
    Curiously it starts off with a short acoustic guitar instrumental, but from then on its Berlin school electronics, long instrumental track.


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    Oh...sorry. It IS French. Bordeaux. (I assumed Quebec because French coverarts of the period are usually very beautiful and this one is plain, flat,, amateurish and with the look of a private press.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jymbot View Post
    Ashratom's list is spot on except I must say Solstice-same is not to my taste.

    Dionysos - Le Grande Jeu is screaming for a good reissue.
    It's just seen a recent bootleg reissue as well... but on a different boot label than the debut
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    Did not know that Soular system was Quebec.
    "Birth of paradise" is such an excellent record. Screaming for a reissue...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    That compilation was certainly not exhaustive (I'd say that only 80% of the tracks of the four albums featured in it were present on it... Fortunately (or not, whether you didn't have it), there was no tracks from Autoroutes Des Rêves in that compilation, since it was released separetely. Arguably AdR was definitely not their best album, IMHO.
    Autoroute seems to have been their answer to Harmonium’s L’heptade, their album with the big orchestra. Unfortunately, the compositions weren’t really up to snuff; it starts off strong with the excellent “Le vent se lève” but the rest of the disc is disappointing (I can’t even remember what the closing song was called offhand, but I recall it being embarrassingly sentimental and drippy). Even the long instrumental track is just “meh.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    Well, potentially, they were popular enough in Quebec that individual album reissues might be viable.... But I suspect that the two-CD compilation reissued in the late 90's quenched that thirst for many more-casual fans...

    That compilation was certainly not exhaustive (I'd say that only 80% of the tracks of the four albums featured in it were present on it... Fortunately (or not, whether you didn't have it), there was no tracks from Autoroutes Des Rêves in that compilation, since it was released separetely. Arguably AdR was definitely not their best album, IMHO.
    Unfortunately for me, I didn't get that comp. and when I got around to ordering it, it was no longer available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill g View Post
    Unfortunately for me, I didn't get that comp. and when I got around to ordering it, it was no longer available.
    Well, I'm lucky enough I got a buddy that bought that compilation... I can also borrow it from the library

    But ultimately, it's very unsatisfactory for real Octobre fans... the mainstream will find its needs and thrills from it... but the progheads will hate the missing numbers, the absence of artwork, etc...

    But releasing Octobre's albums separately when the mainstream public has had its thirst quenched is a bit too risky for PQ

    IMHO anyway... It's up to Stephen to assess this...
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    In the case of Octobre's Survivance, maybe a selling point for people that don't have the compilation is the connection with Contraction.
    Aren't there Contraction member's on Survivance ? There's at least singer Christiane Robichaud...

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    Pollen

    http://www.progquebec.com/pollen.html

    If you want a good one already available at ProgQuebec, jump on 'Pollen'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
    In the case of Octobre's Survivance, maybe a selling point for people that don't have the compilation is the connection with Contraction.
    Aren't there Contraction member's on Survivance ? There's at least singer Christiane Robichaud...
    I love Christiane's work with Contraction. Had no idea she was on Survivance, as I've only heard scattered Octobre tracks. It would sure be nice to be able to score on this album, or anything by Octobre, but as Trane said, it would be better to have individual discs than the comp. I tried to order the comp only because it was the only thing I could find available at the time, and then IT wasn't even available.

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    Anything by Octobre.

    I guess the Opus-5 recordings are out of the question for contractual reasons? What about the Seguin albums, or are there already CD-reissues of those?

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    Thanks for starting this thread Pierre. I only just discovered it now.

    As many know, ProgQuebec is reissuing 1 or 2 albums per year (Dervieux's "DIMENSION M" in 2012), depending on the opportunities available and the time I have.
    For 2013, we can certainly reissue Michel Madore's Komuso a Cordes if people want. Also, in the pipeline for late 2013, is a new studio album by Contraction and a new album by Charles Kaszynski. We need to encourage these musicians who still have lots of creativity left. Just listen to Jerome Langlois' latest effort "LUNA SUITE" (now available on our website). It's a stunning sequel to "MOLIGNAK". And don't forget to see Jerome in concert this Saturday Nov 24 at the Gesu with his daughter Romie.

    Here's my immediate reissue wish list (in no particular order), providing I can conclude never-ending negotiations with major labels for the rights:

    Serge Locat - Transfer (with live bonus tracks)
    Octobre - Live Chants dans la Nuit (and some of Octobre's other albums that did not get full reissues)
    Neil Chotem - Live au El Casino (with members of Harmonium)
    Eclipse (1st album)
    Opus 5 - Serieux ou Pas (reisuued once for the Japanese market only)

    Of course I love Connivence, Syncope, Nebu, Wallack, Leveille's "Black Sun" (with members of Maneige), etc.. and the list goes on (but never heard of Soular System).

    We also have an amazing live concert by Maneige (circa 1978 at the Outremont) that we can release.
    Regarding Aquarelle, what happened was that Belle Antique (Japan) offered him more upfront money than we did, but did a poor vinyl transfer.
    Regarding Dionysos, these have been bootlegged over and over, even by relatives of members of the band ! Although I do want to do a legal reissue at some point.

    For those who love Contraction and Christiane Robichaud's voice, the previously unpublished "CONTRACTION LIVE 1974" which we released on CD two years ago is an absolute masterpiece, even better than the studio albums. If you don't have it, get it ! It's one of my personal favorites. Another underated album that we reissued is Jacques Blais' "THEMES". It's really the 3rd Contraction album since Blais hired the entire band to play on his album Also one of my favorites.

    Many thanks to everyone for your interest in helping us reissue all this music !

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