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    Quote Originally Posted by yamishogun View Post
    He hasn't said that in years and hasn't wanted ARW to be called Yes assuming he is telling the truth. This summer Wakeman said:

    "I think when we start on the farewell dates, we’ll analyze what we’ve done and go, ‘OK, what can we make of this?’ I would like to think we can leave one final burst of music that we can be proud of and, perhaps, we’d like to think that Yes fans have been waiting for."



    ARW ended recording in early 2018 and Anderson has said he wanted to finish the songs in February and March, but it didn't work out, they couldn't be in the same place at thee same time, etc. Wakeman had said in February 2018 that ARW had some good songs and some very good songs and that they decided to work on the very good songs and release an EP later.

    Rabin played "Fragile" on a radio station in July 2018 and in September they were considering playing it live but didn't. Rabin said ARW had many more songs "in the pipeline" and that no one was against recording them - an odd statement. Anderson then said they had half an album completed but almost certainly without a song he brought in. He added he still thought there was still a great Yes album t be made and that he had eight songs for it that would work with an orchestra. Finally, Anderson said he wanted to be in Yes again where they would right music in part based on his songs. He also may have thought he could be with Yes in 2020 and a final tour with ARW in 2021.
    You really shouldn’t be allowed access to a computer without adult supervision. Must have taken you ages to create this narrative from a series of unconnected statements and spinning it as fact. Your parents must have left you on your own all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    Although From a Page, despite only being available in one place and having zero prior promo, made #23 in the UK Rock album chart.
    But it didn't enter the top 100 albums in the UK. Simple Minds' Best of 40 years double album is at #23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamishogun View Post
    (Wakeman) hasn't said that (he wanted to make one final great YES album) in years and hasn't wanted ARW to be called Yes assuming he is telling the truth. This summer Wakeman said:

    "... I would like to think we can leave one final burst of music that we can be proud of and, perhaps, we’d like to think that Yes fans have been waiting for."
    That's quite an argument, I hope you and yourself can come to a truce on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man In The Mountain View Post
    That's quite an argument, I hope you and yourself can come to a truce on that.
    Wakeman has repeatedly said ARW should not be marketed as Yes although didn't mind ARW: "An Evening of Yes Music and More" as long as Yes wasn't the band name. Anderson has wanted ARW to be considered as Yes but not sure what he currently thinks. Apparently, you haven't been following this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondegezou View Post
    Although From a Page, despite only being available in one place and having zero prior promo, made #23 in the UK Rock album chart.
    Not the main chart so it's basically meaningless IMHO. And given you can now often scrape into the main Top 10 with four-figure album sales, I wonder what kind of numbers we'd be talking about in a specialist chart! But sure, it's not a proper new album anyway.

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    ^Every ARW thread ends up like this for the same reason.

    I could believe that they've done some rough demos and song fragments. But I don't think they have much if anything that is 'good to go' beyond what we've already heard.

    And it's like Wakeman himself says, they aren't getting any younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post

    I could believe that they've done some rough demos and song fragments. But I don't think they have much if anything that is 'good to go' beyond what we've already heard.
    How could anyone possibly know unless they were in the band or close to the band?

    Pomeroy in September 2017 said: "there is a lot of music recorded now, and I've heard a lot of it. It's fantastic."

    Anderson in July 2018: "...but I just know that the music that we're [ARW are] doing, to me, is pretty fantastic. When it will get recorded properly, who knows? Because we have great demos already, but the music, it's a question of timing."

    2019?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamishogun View Post
    Apparently, you haven't been following this.
    I'm following fine. No worries. I know what Wakeman said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamishogun View Post
    Apparently, you haven't been following this.
    Quote Originally Posted by yamishogun View Post
    Again, you obviously aren't following this.
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    I don't think you've been following this at all.

    It's a standard yami put down, I'd just ignore it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Man In The Mountain View Post
    I'm following fine. No worries. I know what Wakeman said.
    You obviously haven't been following at all. But that's cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    Not the main chart so it's basically meaningless IMHO. And given you can now often scrape into the main Top 10 with four-figure album sales, I wonder what kind of numbers we'd be talking about in a specialist chart! But sure, it's not a proper new album anyway.
    I imagine that sales are more than they expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    But you really seem to believe they will come out with this great new music, any day now.
    It is amusing that in the race between ARW and Yes with Howe/White/Downes to release new material that the winner has been Oliver Wakeman working at home on some old recordings.

    We will see what 2020 brings. I am very hopeful that we'll see a Howe-White-Downes-Sherwood-Davison Yes release. I am not at all hopeful that we'll get an ARW release. But I hope we get both... and that they're good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yamishogun View Post
    When did I say ARW will come out with great music any day now? Moron.
    There have been numerous complaints about your attitude. Take a timeout.
    WANTED: Sig-worthy quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    There have been numerous complaints about your attitude. Take a timeout.
    thank you! it's disappointing to visit first thing in the morning and find several pages filled with defensive back and forth arguments defending comments rather than discussing the actual topic.
    This has gone on long enough and I appreciate your comment Poisoned Youth.
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    It was me he called a 'moron' but I didn't complain, for the record. I'm just bemused by his belief that new material is around the corner.

    IMHO this band is done and indeed, never even really got off the ground. But if nothing else it showed that Anderson and Wakeman at least can still handle the old stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    IMHO this band is done and indeed, never even really got off the ground.
    Despite a full court (and some would say obnoxious) press from Brian Lane and Co. I'm guessing BL is out of the picture now (inquiring minds want to know why), which I'm guessing is at least part of the reason ARW is in flux/limbo.
    I'm holding out for the Wilson-mixed 5.1 super-duper walletbuster special anniversary extra adjectives edition.

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    This kind of heated argument over speculations really belongs over at Yesfans.
    I come here to escape this sort of thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulrus View Post
    Despite a full court (and some would say obnoxious) press from Brian Lane and Co. I'm guessing BL is out of the picture now (inquiring minds want to know why), which I'm guessing is at least part of the reason ARW is in flux/limbo.
    I wonder why Wakeman is now saying, if they did do some further concerts, they won't call it Yes. Suggesting that was a decision made by A.N. Other all along. Their marketing caused a lot of bad feeling.

    To be clear, on paper I thought this had promise. I then saw the set-lists. All very safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    That's about all 'Fragile' and that instrumental intro they played live were. Wakeman's thrown 'Fragile' under the bus already.

    If you have insight into anything else they've actually done, as opposed to what they've said in interviews, please share.



    I don't see what this has to do with the other Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    I wonder why Wakeman is now saying, if they did do some further concerts, they won't call it Yes. Suggesting that was a decision made by A.N. Other all along. Their marketing caused a lot of bad feeling.

    To be clear, on paper I thought this had promise. I then saw the set-lists. All very safe.
    Beyond safe - at least when you consider how little it changed over this entire run. I enjoyed the shows I saw, but over three shows there couldn’t have been more than 4-5 songs that were different throughout.

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    It is being reported by multiple Yes fans in the UK that were listening, that, while on his Planet Rock radio show on 2/28, the DJ Darren Redick said that Rabin and Wakeman had decided to tour on their own as they couldn't get it together with Anderson. Not sure if this was just him speculating or if he had inside info that he decided to throw out there. Would certainly be a twist to the whole ARW saga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roth View Post
    It is being reported by multiple Yes fans in the UK that were listening, that, while on his Planet Rock radio show on 2/28, the DJ Darren Redick said that Rabin and Wakeman had decided to tour on their own as they couldn't get it together with Anderson. Not sure if this was just him speculating or if he had inside info that he decided to throw out there. Would certainly be a twist to the whole ARW saga.
    No surprise there.

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    Maybe they could get Morse and Portnoy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roth View Post
    It is being reported by multiple Yes fans in the UK that were listening, that, while on his Planet Rock radio show on 2/28, the DJ Darren Redick said that Rabin and Wakeman had decided to tour on their own as they couldn't get it together with Anderson. Not sure if this was just him speculating or if he had inside info that he decided to throw out there. Would certainly be a twist to the whole ARW saga.
    Seems to me it was Anderson & Wakeman who went on to tour on their own. But Anderson is always the easy target while Rabin is missing in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roth View Post
    It is being reported by multiple Yes fans in the UK that were listening, that, while on his Planet Rock radio show on 2/28, the DJ Darren Redick said that Rabin and Wakeman had decided to tour on their own as they couldn't get it together with Anderson. Not sure if this was just him speculating or if he had inside info that he decided to throw out there. Would certainly be a twist to the whole ARW saga.
    It was Anderson who seemed most keen on touring, and Rabin the least, so it seems odd to me. But odd things happen in the world of Yes.

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