The 2019 NFL Discussion Thread

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

What was up with that pass that Dak lobbed to the receiver, and the guy didn't even know Dak was throwing it to him? That's gotta be maddening to you Cowboys fans.

I bet the Dolphins would beat the Cowboys if they played again.......

the way they are playing currently, I don't doubt it!

[3LockBox]

That kneeling shit gets to people every time.

So does quitting.

As a vet of 6yrs in the Navy I couldn't care less who sits, stands, kneels, texts or scratches their crotch during the national anthem (an empty gesture in and of itself).

And let's not be totally revisionist historians for the sake of being a fake internet SJW shall we. When he was first approached, about sitting for a national anthem he had no problem standing for as a starter, (after he'd lost his starting job) he then kneeled after an ex-servicemen convinced him that kneeling would look more respectful (and less pouty) than sitting like a sullen brat.

Dude purposely sabotaged any chance of getting back into the NFL with his latest stunt. And no, that's not a 'cracker' sentiment. Media members and activists alike who have a personal stake in the cause see right through him. He's now a professional martyr. Other than crowing to network cameras about not being on an NFL roster, he has not neccesarily 'lent' himself to the cause, but is available for a sizable fee.

Colin Kaepernick... valid cause, wrong spokesperson.

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

I think you're spot on there Todd

[Lou]

I think you're spot on there Todd

+1

[NogbadTheBad]

I think you're spot on there Todd

Agreed

[Klonk]

So does quitting.

As a vet of 6yrs in the Navy I couldn't care less who sits, stands, kneels, texts or scratches their crotch during the national anthem (an empty gesture in and of itself).

And let's not be totally revisionist historians for the sake of being a fake internet SJW shall we. When he was first approached, about sitting for a national anthem he had no problem standing for as a starter, (after he'd lost his starting job) he then kneeled after an ex-servicemen convinced him that kneeling would look more respectful (and less pouty) than sitting like a sullen brat.

Dude purposely sabotaged any chance of getting back into the NFL with his latest stunt. And no, that's not a 'cracker' sentiment. Media members and activists alike who have a personal stake in the cause see right through him. He's now a professional martyr. Other than crowing to network cameras about not being on an NFL roster, he has not neccesarily 'lent' himself to the cause, but is available for a sizable fee.

Colin Kaepernick... valid cause, wrong spokesperson.

Thank you for your service . However, I have vets in my family and know several others young and old who found the kneeling disrespectful...not outrageous, just disrespectful. Who's right and who's wrong?! But yeah, the cause is what it is and he's definitely the wrong spokesperson.

[Poisoned Youth]

Thank you for your service . However, I have vets in my family and know several others young and old who found the kneeling disrespectful...not outrageous, just disrespectful. Who's right and who's wrong?! But yeah, the cause is what it is and he's definitely the wrong spokesperson.

Without getting too political, I think it's time we revisit the concept of patriotic displays at private sporting events.

While I won't discuss my feelings about the controversy (which is now very old and tired btw), I would say that Kaepernick is irreparably "damaged". Once a person or idea becomes politicized to the point of being used as a symbol or trigger for either point of view, the message behind it is usually lost and all that's left is the disagreement.

[3LockBox]

Without getting too political, I think it's time we revisit the concept of patriotic displays at private sporting events.

While I won't discuss my feelings about the controversy (which is now very old and tired btw), I would say that Kaepernick is irreparably "damaged". Once a person or idea becomes politicized to the point of being used as a symbol or trigger for either point of view, the message behind it is usually lost and all that's left is the disagreement.

Exactly. Plenty of players who knelt still play for NFL teams, provided they've earned a spot on a roster. The kneeling never bothered me because I have a natural aversion to public professions and proclamations of faith, patriotism and affection. Yes, there is a place and time for everything but so much of it is self-serving at best and attention whoring at worst.

Most networks did't even broadcast the pre-game anthem and I usually skipped it when they did. So did everyone else until it came time to take inventory of who was doing what. But, that's all history. So is Kaepernick - and the guy someone wanted Kap to replace will probably wind up MVP.

[Firth]

Here is the full quote by the commentator: “He’s really good at that fake, Lamar Jackson, but when you consider his dark skin with a dark football with a dark uniform, you could not see that thing,” Ryan said on air, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. “I mean you literally could not see when he was in and out of the mesh point, and if you’re a half step slow on him in terms of your vision, forget about it, he’s out of the gate.”

From an article about what Richard Sherman said in response: Sherman, one of the most outspoken players of the league, said Thursday he wasn’t as mad as everyone else was and that the analyst had “valid” points but could have chosen his words differently.

“I know Tim personally, and I listened to the dialogue and saw it written, and honestly I wasn’t as outraged as everybody else,” Sherman told reporters. “I understand how it can be taken under a certain context and be offensive to some. But if you're saying, this is a brown ball, they're wearing dark colors and he has a brown arm, honestly, sometimes we were having trouble seeing it on film."

There is no reason or proof to claim that Lamar’s successful handoffs (or non-handoffs) occur mostly because he is dark. To claim so, or rationalize statements as such are inaccurate. However the context suggests an announcer and football player kissing the a@@ of the fans.

[Firth]

Without getting too political, I think it's time we revisit the concept of patriotic displays at private sporting events.

While I won't discuss my feelings about the controversy (which is now very old and tired btw), I would say that Kaepernick is irreparably "damaged". Once a person or idea becomes politicized to the point of being used as a symbol or trigger for either point of view, the message behind it is usually lost and all that's left is the disagreement.

I disagree. The Kapisode was a major distraction to the game. We don’t need to discuss this any more. Let it be, let it be.

[3LockBox]

I disagree. The Kapisode was a major distraction to the game. We don’t need to discuss this any more. Let it be, let it be.

You're right and for the most part we all had left it behind (well, almost all of us). Someone keeps being bringing him up because he wants to look 'woke' (or whatever) and I'd had enough. Shame on me. I guess Shadow hooks everyone eventually.

[progmatist]

So does quitting.

As a vet of 6yrs in the Navy I couldn't care less who sits, stands, kneels, texts or scratches their crotch during the national anthem (an empty gesture in and of itself).

And let's not be totally revisionist historians for the sake of being a fake internet SJW shall we. When he was first approached, about sitting for a national anthem he had no problem standing for as a starter, (after he'd lost his starting job) he then kneeled after an ex-servicemen convinced him that kneeling would look more respectful (and less pouty) than sitting like a sullen brat.

Dude purposely sabotaged any chance of getting back into the NFL with his latest stunt. And no, that's not a 'cracker' sentiment. Media members and activists alike who have a personal stake in the cause see right through him. He's now a professional martyr. Other than crowing to network cameras about not being on an NFL roster, he has not neccesarily 'lent' himself to the cause, but is available for a sizable fee.

Colin Kaepernick... valid cause, wrong spokesperson.

I too served in the Navy, FOR people's right to kneel, even when it's unpopular. The true test of free speech is when it's UNpopular. I would extend the right to free speech to both Colin Kaepernick's kneeling, and Ward Connerly speaking on college campuses.

[TheH]

You should watch 49ers v. Saints what a cool game

[Shadow]

Didn't see that Denver game going this way.

[Vic2012]

We might not winnit but we're innit.

[Vic2012]

Christ we've scored 21 points on field goals......

[Shadow]

It wasn't pretty and Jackson's throws are getting a little more inconsistent but it was a win.

[Firth]

It wasn't pretty and Jackson's throws are getting a little more inconsistent but it was a win.

I wouldn’t say his throws are getting more inconsistent, but he made some very tough throws under excellent defensive pressure. The most negative performance was his running which suffered from pressure. Buffalo has a great defense, but their offense was not good. The Refs suck, PI calls inconsistency continues. PI should never be called if there was no chance for any reception of the ball.

[Firth]

I too served in the Navy, FOR people's right to kneel, even when it's unpopular. The true test of free speech is when it's UNpopular. I would extend the right to free speech to both Colin Kaepernick's kneeling, and Ward Connerly speaking on college campuses.

You were in the military. I would not say that a military member has free speech in general. Neither anybody else who has a job that rightfully limits expression. Want to really be free, get rich and financially independent.

[Klonk]

You should watch 49ers v. Saints what a cool game

That was a fun game to watch!

[NogbadTheBad]

Bonkers

[TheH]

That was a fun game to watch!

It was and only two points short of a top 10 alltime scoring game.

[Vic2012]

How about this Tannihill kid?

[NogbadTheBad]

Patriots getting hosed by the refs, first down for the Chiefs where the spot was a yard off, whistle blown on a fumble that could have been run back and a TD not given for a foot out of bounds that wasn't.

[Lou]

Patriots getting hosed by the refs

Impossible