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I blame Wynton, what was the question?
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I guess he’s going to fill in for Witten in the booth!
WANTED: Sig-worthy quote.
Gronk would be so much better.
And while kid oriented, he had three seasons of a show on Nickelodeon + scripts, hitting spots, live audience, other cast....the basics
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Gronk will take 2019 off, get himself totally healthy, then attempt a return; and probably not for the Pats.
Curious what you all think of the proposed alternative to the on-side kick? In a nutshell, a team would have a one-time option, in the 4th quarter only, to attempt a 4th and 15 play from their own 35 as an alternative to attempting an on-side kick. If they move the chains, they have a drive. If they don't, turnover on downs. I know the purists will shoot this idea down, but I like it. The on-side is impossible to convert since the rule change.
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I made my comment with the full expectation that you would say something to this effect
Let it be known that, in my case, this is not rooting interest in the franchise/uniform, but a genuine football interest created by the intrigue of the particular collection of players that they have assembled.
I'll take Gronk, with a broken up body any day.
Hard to wipe the purist off of me, but I think this could be interesting. Onside kicks are impossible to convert now so why not? It's gimmicky, but there's no doubt it'll be exciting.
I say yes!
Regarding Gronk...he's probably got so many gigs that I bet he's done. Keep him out of the booth though
"Who would have thought a whale would be so heavy?" - Moe Sizlak
The argument being it's a safety issue. That is why they changed to this current format. I don't know the numbers but I'm guessing the conversion rate was probably a single digit percentage. 4th and 15 on your own 35 is a gamble, but when you need another score late in a game, I prefer the odds vs the on-side kick, regardless of the rules. They should experiment with it in pre-season at least.
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-Cozy 3:16-
They changed to the current format because of safety issues on regular kickoffs, not onside kicks. If the onside kick is recognized as a distinct play, however, it can be given whatever "rules" the NFL wants. It's just that under this principle, if teams call an onside kick, they would actually have to attempt it. So, in short, there is no reason why you couldn't have onside kicks under the old rules - even if kickoffs are further modified or even eliminated altogether.
So you propose that the kicking team would have to tell the officials and their opponent that they will be attempting an on-side kick? No surprise onside kicks allowed? And within that "play" they could establish rules? Could be interesting. I still like the 4th and 15 option though. I'm reminded of when the 2-point conversion was first introduced. Certain people complained, but now it's part of the game. At least experiment with it during the pre-season...
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-Cozy 3:16-
Not a fan, to be honest. I'm really not a fan of all of the kickoff rule changes, in general.
I'm not buying the safety issue argument. Did that many guys actually get hurt during kickoffs?
And this is the problem. It used to be a very exciting play when you had a team attempt one in a situation that didn't necessarily call for the play. And it was still relatively exciting when a team down by one score would attempt one at the end of the game.
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Scott, you don't think going for a 4th and 15 would be as exciting as an on-side kick? Especially since they changed it so a team can't line up all their players but one, on the same side of the field? Only 1 owner was opposed so there's a chance we will see this in the pre-season. I'd be curious before killing the idea outright.
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-Cozy 3:16-
I think it could be exciting, but I just don't like the....structure (for lack of a better word) of it. There's no element of surprise (aside, of course, from the play call). I dunno. It just seems unnatural, to me. And get off my lawn, by the way.
I've no doubt that we'll see it. I"m not going to say that I hate it before I see it, though. It may wind up as a more exciting play than what we have now.
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Facelift's suggestion to allow teams to call an onside kick using the old rules shouldn't preclude teams from attempting a surprise onside kick from standard kickoff formation.
The 4th and 15 idea is interesting, but I would make the "kicking" team start at their 25 or even 20 instead of their 35. You convert you're already past midfield, that seems a little unfair to the "receiving" team.
Right. So, for example, if a team called an onside kick, they would line up and the rule could be that any result other than a legitimate recovery by the kicking team would result in possession by the receiving team 15 yards from the spot of the kick or wherever the kick is recovered by the receiving team; whichever is closer. This would eliminate the possibility of a team calling an onside kick but then using the tee to kick off in the normal manner. I don't really see the downside here. The rules and tools for the onside kick could be rolled back to whatever era of kickoffs is desired - the black tees, the old-school orange tees; whatever.
I'm not fundamentally opposed to the 4th and 15 thing, but onside kicking in the '70s/'80s/'90s seemed to be something that everybody was implicitly happy with, so I don't see why we couldn't just return to those old rules (for the purpose of onside kicking only).
I dunno. It just seems unnatural, to me.I'm with you guys. Quit trying to make it easy for the team that's losing with a few seconds left on the clock. You've scored, you're down by a few points, there's 30 seconds left in the game, you've lost posession, tough.The 4th and 15 idea is interesting, but I would make the "kicking" team start at their 25 or even 20 instead of their 35. You convert you're already past midfield, that seems a little unfair to the "receiving" team.
It's about entertainment Vic. Besides, a 4th and 15 is no gimme. I'd like to see how it would unfold in an actual game context. A team could only use it once, and in the 4th quarter. Hell, I'd even make it only within the 2-minute warning .
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-Cozy 3:16-
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Purists, you are safe. The owners shot down the proposal...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ative-proposal
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