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    Quote Originally Posted by 3LockBox View Post
    Well, there was the tour with Damn Yankees where he would poke fun at Dennis DeYoung. Maybe that's what he's referring to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3LockBox View Post
    Well, there was the tour with Damn Yankees where he would poke fun at Dennis DeYoung. Maybe that's what he's referring to?
    I saw the tour and it was more Ted Nugent than Shaw. I actually thought it was funny, but I know Dennis did not take kindly to the stunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    The rattlesnake museum? care to elaborate?
    Also, I have to ask Hans, were you embellishing in the local herb-ige on said night? your account of the evening reminded me a bit of a Hunter Thompson story. lol
    Ha! I swear it's all true but I have no way of proving it I suppose except to direct you to all the pictures of New Mexico on my Instagram (admittedly none of Alan Parsons but I was having too much fun with the show to take them). Except I will admit that the rattlesnake museum, despite its name, is more of a gift shop and we probably could've squeezed both into one night if it hadn't been closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I saw the tour and it was more Ted Nugent than Shaw. I actually thought it was funny, but I know Dennis did not take kindly to the stunt.
    I've always loved Tommy Shaw, and I kept help believe his time working with Dennis DeYoung made him a better songwriter. Dennis is and was a master at how to write a song.
    I love both of them, and at least the recent interviews I've seen with Dennis, while he does drop little digs now and then, the seems to have moved on.
    I think for the band, Dennis is a very strong personality and that probably accounts for a lot of the animosity.I also think his insistence to do Kilroy Was Here, killed the band and led to Tommy walking off stage and quitting.
    That should've been a solo album by Dennis, and maybe we'd still have the original lineup.

    Quote Originally Posted by EBES View Post
    Ha! I swear it's all true but I have no way of proving it I suppose except to direct you to all the pictures of New Mexico on my Instagram (admittedly none of Alan Parsons but I was having too much fun with the show to take them). Except I will admit that the rattlesnake museum, despite its name, is more of a gift shop and we probably could've squeezed both into one night if it hadn't been closed.
    I WILL check out those photos, just out of curiousity.
    The Hunter Thompson reference by the way, was a compliment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I've always loved Tommy Shaw, and I kept help believe his time working with Dennis DeYoung made him a better songwriter. Dennis is and was a master at how to write a song.
    I love both of them, and at least the recent interviews I've seen with Dennis, while he does drop little digs now and then, the seems to have moved on.
    I think for the band, Dennis is a very strong personality and that probably accounts for a lot of the animosity.I also think his insistence to do Kilroy Was Here, killed the band and led to Tommy walking off stage and quitting.
    That should've been a solo album by Dennis, and maybe we'd still have the original lineup.
    I have read both Sterling Whitaker’s excellent book on Styx entitled “The Grand Delusion” and Chuck Ponazzo’s autobiography “The Grand Illusion, Love, Life and my life in Styx.” According to both of those books, although “Kilroy” was not endorsed by the entire band, they did go along with both the album and the tour. Tommy was never comfortable playing the “character” of Johnathan Chance on stage during the tour, but again played along. The tour started playing in theaters where the concept of the show went over fairly well and is documented in the live film and album “Caught In The Act,” but the second leg of the tour moved to arenas where it did not work as well. The final straw from Shaw was when they were on a festival bill at a football stadium (I think in Texas?) where they were headlining with heavy bands like Ted Nugent & Sammy Hagar and Tommy begged Dennis do just go out and do a regular show and not do the “Kilroy” show with the films and acting. Dennis would not relent and the show did not go over well in front of a rocking festival audience. It was the straw that broke the camels back for Tommy and he eventually left the band.

    Of course, they did eventually get back together, but that fell apart too and has never been repaired.

    I am writing all of this from memory as it has been a while since I read both books, so I may have some details wrong, but I think that is the general story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I have read both Sterling Whitaker’s excellent book on Styx entitled “The Grand Delusion” and Chuck Ponazzo’s autobiography “The Grand Illusion, Love, Life and my life in Styx.” According to both of those books, although “Kilroy” was not endorsed by the entire band, they did go along with both the album and the tour. Tommy was never comfortable playing the “character” of Johnathan Chance on stage during the tour, but again played along. The tour started playing in theaters where the concept of the show went over fairly well and is documented in the live film and album “Caught In The Act,” but the second leg of the tour moved to arenas where it did not work as well. The final straw from Shaw was when they were on a festival bill at a football stadium (I think in Texas?) where they were headlining with heavy bands like Ted Nugent & Sammy Hagar and Tommy begged Dennis do just go out and do a regular show and not do the “Kilroy” show with the films and acting. Dennis would not relent and the show did not go over well in front of a rocking festival audience. It was the straw that broke the camels back for Tommy and he eventually left the band.

    Of course, they did eventually get back together, but that fell apart too and has never been repaired.

    I am writing all of this from memory as it has been a while since I read both books, so I may have some details wrong, but I think that is the general story.
    This is consistent with what I remember from their "Behind the Music" episode.

    And I was always on Tommy Shaw's side of this conflict, FWIW
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I have read both Sterling Whitaker’s excellent book on Styx entitled “The Grand Delusion” and Chuck Ponazzo’s autobiography “The Grand Illusion, Love, Life and my life in Styx.” According to both of those books, although “Kilroy” was not endorsed by the entire band, they did go along with both the album and the tour. Tommy was never comfortable playing the “character” of Johnathan Chance on stage during the tour, but again played along. The tour started playing in theaters where the concept of the show went over fairly well and is documented in the live film and album “Caught In The Act,” but the second leg of the tour moved to arenas where it did not work as well. The final straw from Shaw was when they were on a festival bill at a football stadium (I think in Texas?) where they were headlining with heavy bands like Ted Nugent & Sammy Hagar and Tommy begged Dennis do just go out and do a regular show and not do the “Kilroy” show with the films and acting. Dennis would not relent and the show did not go over well in front of a rocking festival audience. It was the straw that broke the camels back for Tommy and he eventually left the band.

    Of course, they did eventually get back together, but that fell apart too and has never been repaired.

    I am writing all of this from memory as it has been a while since I read both books, so I may have some details wrong, but I think that is the general story.
    The only time I ever got to see Styx live was on the Kilroy tour at a theater in Los Angeles. I was a big fan of the band but not the album at the time, but the live show is one of the best concert memories I have from my high school years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquatarkus View Post
    The only time I ever got to see Styx live was on the Kilroy tour at a theater in Los Angeles. I was a big fan of the band but not the album at the time, but the live show is one of the best concert memories I have from my high school years.
    I did not see the tour, but have the DVD from it. I thought it was really cool how they worked their older hits into the overall Kilroy story for the presentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I did not see the tour, but have the DVD from it. I thought it was really cool how they worked their older hits into the overall Kilroy story for the presentation.
    I think Styx are an excellent live band. The music and the show are both excellent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I did not see the tour, but have the DVD from it. I thought it was really cool how they worked their older hits into the overall Kilroy story for the presentation.
    Yes! I remember my friends and I, all pretty big Styx fans at the time, were skeptical as to how it would work, the mixing of the classic with the new, but the entire show came off beautifully.

    I forgot to comment earlier that I quite like the new AP song with Tommy Shaw's vocal.

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    Any idea when this thread will get back to Alan Parsons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garyhead View Post
    Any idea when this thread will get back to Alan Parsons?
    Who?

    Tommy Shaw links to Styx though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garyhead View Post
    Any idea when this thread will get back to Alan Parsons?
    Would you settle for Jim Parsons?

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    Or Alan Partridge?

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    Or Danny Partridge

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    I like the sound of the new song, and am excited about the album. I was shocked to hear that he already had a new album on the way, then even MORE shocked to realize that it's been 3 yeas since THE SECRET came out. Also find it interesting that the new album has a song called "The Secret" on it. Hmmm. Anyway, sign me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farpoint Kevin View Post
    I like the sound of the new song, and am excited about the album. I was shocked to hear that he already had a new album on the way, then even MORE shocked to realize that it's been 3 yeas since THE SECRET came out. Also find it interesting that the new album has a song called "The Secret" on it. Hmmm. Anyway, sign me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3LockBox View Post
    shades of when Led Zeppelin had the song, Houses of The Holy on their Physical Graffiti album immediately following the the album, Houses of The Holy. An OCD nightmare.
    Haha. True.
    Or kind of like King Crimson with "Starless" NOT on the STARLESS AND BIBLE BLACK album.
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    Another new track from the forthcoming album, this one featuring David Pack (Ambrosia and long-time Parsons collaborator) on vocals and guitar from Joe Bonamassa:


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    Very Cool. Nice to hear Ambrosia's David Pack singing on a new song.

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