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    Quote Originally Posted by per anporth View Post
    What is it about Joe Buck?
    Buck is not my favorite announcer by a long shot, but doesn't really bug me to the levels of most people. I think, if anything, it's just frustrating that he's been a WS announcer for so long that it's become tiresome, especially since there are others that could step in. FWIW, I liked the TBS team with Francoeur, Darling, and Ernie.
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    I agree with PY - the Nats have two of the three best SPs and they can get very hot on offense. their big weakness is the bullpen but basically getting an entire week off should help alleviate that. don't get me wrong I expect the Astros to win this but if you follow the sportsbooks you can see the odds for the Nats slowly tick up.
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    also I'm gonna stick my neck out there for Joe Buck. I think he's fine. not to damn the guy with faint praise but there are much worse announcers out there.

    the guy I'd love to see do it is Brian Anderson, the Brewers play-by-play guy. clearly the man has talent since he keeps getting tapped for NBA playoff games. sharp guy and he absolutely has the voice to do it.
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    Nice try.
    I thought so.
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    Congrats to the Astros. The better team won.

    Go 'Stros.

    FWIW, while the home plate umpiring was not a determining factor, is was a factor in this game. He SUCKED.
    It was the worst ump job in the playoffs so far. I was stunned while watching that game.
    The ump stats-- 87.9% correct. 20 incorrect pitch calls and 14 went the Houston's way, 6 for the Yanks. If I was a Yankee fan (thank god I am not ) I would have been pissed.

    Go Nats!

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    Go 'Stros for no other reason than Altuve is a bad ass mo-fo and he's 2 inches shorter than I am. Go short guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progeezer View Post
    All "team rooting/preoccupation & obsession" aside from ANY MLB fan, if you don't think that CC Sabathia was a class act due a much better end to his (HOF IMO) career, what's wrong with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ledsox View Post
    It was the worst ump job in the playoffs so far. I was stunned while watching that game.
    The ump stats-- 87.9% correct. 20 incorrect pitch calls and 14 went the Houston's way, 6 for the Yanks. If I was a Yankee fan (thank god I am not ) I would have been pissed.

    Go Nats!
    I was. Go 'Stros!

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    Touche
    Coulda been worse.
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    What an asshat.
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    ^^ There seem to be different accounts of this, but, yes, it doesn't look good. I actually forgot about Osuna. Ironic how one abuser helped them win while another abuser, arguably, helped the Yankees lose.
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    Sad to read. While they haven't determined the cause of death, people gotta take better care of themselves. I wondered if the union ever considered a health improvement plan. A lot of umps are walking time bombs. This guy was far too young.
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    It should be 5-0 Nats. The ump walked the Astros first batter on a strike three pitch. If that box on the screen is accurate this guy is all over the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    ^^ There seem to be different accounts of this, but, yes, it doesn't look good. I actually forgot about Osuna. Ironic how one abuser helped them win while another abuser, arguably, helped the Yankees lose.
    Of course, no ball team is without skeletons in its locker rooms...but there's the beginnings of a discernable pattern in the conduct of the Astros, which is very much tarnishing what appeared to be a hard-won image.

    Whatever one thinks about tanking - I think it's a blight on the game - it still seemed that the Astros had built an impressive & easy-to-root-for team. Characters like Altuve are amongst the brightest spots in contemporary baseball, & it was clear that Hinch was an impressively smart manager. To be sure, the hype about the team over the last 18 months, & especially over the last few weeks, has become a bit oppressive. But it's the deeper issues which are hard to ignore, when taken collectively. After all the public statements about the club ethos, to sign Osuna was, at best, a questionable decision - & at worst, cynical in the extreme. The steady drip of indications that the club were using electronic means to steal signs, & the way MLB wiped the incident in the first game of last years WS at Febnway under the carpet, begged questions about the integrity of the club. The behaviour of Taubman to the SI journalist was bad enough - but what really stinks is the attempt to deny the event & to smear the female journalist. Forced by multiple corroborating accounts, the half-hearted retraction, & the weasel-worded "apology" - for any offence taken, rather than for the act itself - all imply a team & locker room culture which has become poisonously arrogant.

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    Not that I want to spend a lot of time digging in deeper about it, but there's something about that story that doesn't make sense (or doesn't feel complete).

    1. Osuna blew the save. When I initially read the article, I thought he was mocking Osuna.
    2. Recent reporting suggests no one was asking Osuna questions for Taubman to get defensive about. So the comments seem to come out of nowhere with no context - as reported.
    3. You'd have to, imo, already have a reputation as some kind of royal dickhead to be certain to read into Taubman's comments as mocking domestic violence.
    4. That said, his "apology" did have that quality. Anyone that says "I'm sorry if you were offended" is not sorry.
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    Great job by the Nats in game 1. I know Soto is getting the praise, but Adam Eaton continues to come through in clutch situations. Getting 5 runs off Cole is certainly...atypical.

    Max looked a bit tired...and shaky, even with the rest. He's lucky he got out of it with just the 2 runs. And even though Hudson gave up that 4th run, he and Doolittle have done fairly well in the playoffs.

    Verlander vs. Stras tonight.
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    Great job by the Nats in game 1. I know Soto is getting the praise, but Adam Eaton continues to come through in clutch situations. Getting 5 runs off Cole is certainly...atypical.

    Max looked a bit tired...and shaky, even with the rest. He's lucky he got out of it with just the 2 runs. And even though Hudson gave up that 4th run, he and Doolittle have done fairly well in the playoffs.

    Verlander vs. Stras tonight.
    I wonder how much gas Verlander has left in the tank? Scherzer certainly had to labour hard to get through five innings - I think this whole series will not get any easier for the Nats pitchers. But if they can steal another win "against the head" tonight, suddenly the whole complexion of the series changes dramatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by per anporth View Post
    Of course, no ball team is without skeletons in its locker rooms...but there's the beginnings of a discernable pattern in the conduct of the Astros, which is very much tarnishing what appeared to be a hard-won image.

    Whatever one thinks about tanking - I think it's a blight on the game - it still seemed that the Astros had built an impressive & easy-to-root-for team. Characters like Altuve are amongst the brightest spots in contemporary baseball, & it was clear that Hinch was an impressively smart manager. To be sure, the hype about the team over the last 18 months, & especially over the last few weeks, has become a bit oppressive. But it's the deeper issues which are hard to ignore, when taken collectively. After all the public statements about the club ethos, to sign Osuna was, at best, a questionable decision - & at worst, cynical in the extreme. The steady drip of indications that the club were using electronic means to steal signs, & the way MLB wiped the incident in the first game of last years WS at Febnway under the carpet, begged questions about the integrity of the club. The behaviour of Taubman to the SI journalist was bad enough - but what really stinks is the attempt to deny the event & to smear the female journalist. Forced by multiple corroborating accounts, the half-hearted retraction, & the weasel-worded "apology" - for any offence taken, rather than for the act itself - all imply a team & locker room culture which has become poisonously arrogant.
    pretty much agree with all this. obviously can't speak to what happened but that "apology" kinda confirms in my eyes that it was exactly what it's claimed to be. someone on Twitter mentioned that signing a guy like Osuna for cheap because of his domestic violence suspension fits into the Astros nu-Moneyball strategy and that rings pretty true to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    3. You'd have to, imo, already have a reputation as some kind of royal dickhead to be certain to read into Taubman's comments as mocking domestic violence.
    given that Osuna wasn't otherwise brought up (as has been corroborated by several people) and the comment was directed at a female reporter I don't think it's too out of bounds to infer that. maybe not that he's "mocking" domestic violence but rather that he's doing that thing that a lot of guys do when they defend abusers where you sorta imply that the women could be lying and that we don't know the whole story, blah blah blah. the Astros took a lot of heat for signing him and I know there's a certain MRA-type who sees that as just another example of SJWism going too far or whatever. it's horrible but these people clearly exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by per anporth View Post
    I wonder how much gas Verlander has left in the tank? Scherzer certainly had to labour hard to get through five innings - I think this whole series will not get any easier for the Nats pitchers. But if they can steal another win "against the head" tonight, suddenly the whole complexion of the series changes dramatically.
    Most certainly. What I can say is that Stras has had a pretty solid last 10 starts whereas you do feel that Verlander (and Max for that matter) are running on empty. Cole still has it, but had a bad night (which makes that victory sweet for the Nats). Greinke has been shaky as well. So the Nats could do some irreparable damage to the Astros' chances if they pull out a win tonight.
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    My default for the World Series is to root for the AL team but dammit, I'm not going this time. Not after this shit. Nationals all the way, baby!
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    More detail on the disgusting Astros incident from the twitter of David Folkenflik

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    NEWS: Astros assistant GM Brandon Taubman was targeting a female reporter wearing a purple bracelet on domestic violence. She has tweeted frequently on DV; he complained about her tweets offering info on DV hotlines when Roberto Osuna appeared in Astros games in 2018. My story:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ledsox View Post
    More detail on the disgusting Astros incident from the twitter of David Folkenflik
    Thanks. Here is the article:
    https://www.npr.org/2019/10/22/77236...-eve-of-series

    This definitely makes the context/connection of a grudge that Taubman had that was missing before. Dumbass.
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    Last night's game: Springer had a chance to tie it if he hadn't been standing around the first base path coaxing a wannabe homer. Instead, he had a double rather than a certain triple. He would have been on 3rd. with 1 out and would have scored on the next batter's fly. Bad mental move and lack of adherance to fundamentals. Darn kids these days! Oh yeah, Scherzer was a beast holding them to 2. Soto and Doolittle finished them off. Something wonderful is afoot! Go Nats!

    Tonight's prediction: Verlander gets touched and loses game 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarplyrjvb View Post
    Last night's game: Springer had a chance to tie it if he hadn't been standing around the first base path coaxing a wannabe homer. Instead, he had a double rather than a certain triple. He would have been on 3rd. with 1 out and would have scored on the next batter's fly. Bad mental move and lack of adherance to fundamentals. Darn kids these days!
    Springer's justification of why he didn't run out the ball was pretty amusing lol.

    That said, I never buy into the whole "if he would have been on 3rd, that sac fly would have scored him" that announcers and pundits were saying after. That has just as much weight as saying "if Altuve or Brantley would have gotten hits instead of fly ball outs, Springer could easily score from 2B".
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