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  1. #1176
    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    How does bad pitching affect run production?
    As we are seeing in the playoffs, you don't need a lot of runs to win with good pitching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    If you're proud of it, I suppose you can.
    Hardly.
    His knee appeared to have given out. He's been in pain for years. It was pretty sad to watch.
    I had it on with the sound off, and wasn't really paying attention apart from enjoying the scoreboard.

  3. #1178
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    As we are seeing in the playoffs, you don't need a lot of runs to win with good pitching.
    Perhaps, but you still gotta be better than 22nd in runs scored.
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    So what your saying is if the Orioles had the pitching they don't have then it wouldn't matter that they don't have the batting they would need.

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  5. #1180
    Apparently, it was CC's shoulder that gave out. He was removed from the roster today.
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    All "team rooting/preoccupation & obsession" aside from ANY MLB fan, if you don't think that CC Sabathia was a class act due a much better end to his (HOF IMO) career, what's wrong with you?
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  7. #1182
    CC was a great pitcher and seems like a great guy/teammate but his career ended appropriately. He announced his retirement months ago meaning he knew his body could not do it much longer. He was right. I just saw his presser where he said it felt like his shoulder separated. He left it out there and he has no complaints.

  8. #1183
    CC was not only a true gamer, but he was liked in the dugout by pretty much everyone who crossed his path. He's one of the most respected players of his generation. Nobody can take that away from him.

    Was he due a better end? I don't know what that means. And I'm not going bother with trying to decode the underlying sentiment. You, know, from my "preoccupied and obsessed fan' perspective, that is.

    I see no better way to end a career than on one's own terms, which is exactly what he did. Would he have preferred a championship? Sure. He did get one, though, which is something a lot of other players can't say. And he was a playoff MVP that year, too. But, I'm sure that has no bearing on his feelings of self-worth or accomplishment. Does he have any regrets? I doubt it. At the end of the day, one has to feel that they gave their best shot. And he did.
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  9. #1184
    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    So what your saying is if the Orioles had the pitching they don't have then it wouldn't matter that they don't have the batting they would need.

    R i g h t . . . . . .
    So you're saying is the only way you can win with great pitching is if you have great batting. That's like saying if you have a great defense you can't win the super bowl unless you have a great offense. Stick with soccer and cricket.
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  10. #1185
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    So you're saying is the only way you can win with great pitching is if you have great batting.
    No, we're saying that you likely won't win if you have shitty hitting.
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  11. #1186
    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    No, we're saying that you likely won't win if you have shitty hitting.
    Orioles- 729 runs
    Brewers - 769 runs
    Cardinals - 764 runs
    Rays -769 runs

    Just think, if those three other teams with shitty hitting would of had great pitching they may have made the playoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Orioles- 729 runs
    Brewers - 769 runs
    Cardinals - 764 runs
    Rays -769 runs

    Just think, if those three other teams with shitty hitting would of had great pitching they may have made the playoffs.
    Run differentials

    Orioles- -252
    Brewers - +3
    Cardinals - +102
    Rays - +113

    "Would of"? Really?
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    "A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words."

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  14. #1189
    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Run differentials

    Orioles- -252
    Brewers - +3
    Cardinals - +102
    Rays - +113

    "Would of"? Really?
    You just made my point for me.
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  15. #1190
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    You just made my point for me.
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    If the Orioles had pitching like the Astros,Nats or Dodgers they would have been playing Houston last night.
    Nice try, but no, they didn't have the same hitting. So, the premise is false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Saw that live, an usher rushed down & made him cover up, surprised they didn't throw him out, very funny.
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  17. #1192
    Altuve crushed that ball. At least you will have two decent fan bases at the games.
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    Joe Buck makes a foul ball seem like a Grand Salami! Way too much hyperbole!

  19. #1194
    Congrats to the Astros. The better team won.

    Go 'Stros.

    FWIW, while the home plate umpiring was not a determining factor, is was a factor in this game. He SUCKED.
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    He did indeed
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    Congrats to the Astros! It's always a good day when the Evil Empire is defeated.

    Now I have a dilemma as I've been rooting for the Astros most of the year (especially after it became increasingly likely the Sox were not going anywhere), but have to show some local love to the Nats. Growing up in NW PA, we never had a "local" team and a lot of split loyalties. I moved to the DC area before the Nats did, so they are the only local team I have "adopted" in my life.

    I think the series is completely up for grabs, especially if you factor in the underwhelming efforts of Verlander and Greinke in the playoffs so far. You still have to give the Astros the advantage. They have home field, they have been through this before, and they still have the best 1-2-3 rotation on paper.

    That said, one could argue that the Dodgers were potentially the most significant hump for the Nats to get over and they did. They destroyed the Cards in short order. And while they could be bit rusty with a week off, it might be good news for their starting rotation. I think of each team's big 3, all but Max pitched 200+ innings before the season ended. That fatigue appears to be showing up. Verlander especially will not get the rest. (Maybe it would be a good idea for the Astros to save him for game 3).

    It should be a fun series. I like most of the players on both teams, so I'll have to focus all my vitriol for Joe Buck I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    I'll have to focus all my vitriol for Joe Buck I guess.
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  23. #1198
    What is it about Joe Buck? - watching here in the UK, I agree, the only thing worse than Smoltz & Buck was Buck & McCarver. Buck just seems so portentous, & Smoltz is so dull. (The split screen cut away ads between pitches are unforgiveable.)

    One thing about the magical run for the Red Sox last year was that it went some way to masking how poor a replacement for Don Orsillo Dave O'Brian is. Despite his unctuous efforts, he's got zero chemistry with either Eck or Remy. By contrast, when Remy & Eck are both in the box, their interactions are infectious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    Congrats to the Astros! It's always a good day when the Evil Empire is defeated.
    Similarly, as long as the BoSox, Indians and Dodgers lose and my team does better, it's good.

    Not to sound dickish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Similarly, as long as the BoSox, Indians and Dodgers lose and my team does better, it's good.

    Not to sound dickish.
    Nice try.
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