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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits View Post
    It's already up for sale (preorder) on Wayside. $185. Still quite a bit less than Amazon, even though the latter has dropped to $215 and change.
    Thanks, Mr T!!

    We are told that our copies ship to us on Thursday or Friday, which means we should be able to start shipping on Monday, 6/10!
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    Your Amazon.co.uk order of "In Search Of Hades - The..." has been dispatched
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    Jerome Froese has checked in on the single album re-releases:

    Hey folks, I'm quite irritated about the Virgin/Universal 2019 re-issues! As you know, I usually keep a low profile when things upset me. No question: The music is great, and Steven did an awesome job on the remixes! But what really pisses me off is the fact that my mother (Monika "Monique" Froese) is completely wiped out on all reissues! Means: no credit, no thank you, no mention of cover artwork or photography!? As if she never existed. Instead you'll find somebody named Phil Smee for cover design? WTF!! This is a disgrace and slap in the face for all those who have shaped this group in its golden years. A nice weekend to all of you anyway. J.
    /rant mode off
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    Monique is indeed the genius behind those wonderful '70s album covers and gatefold & band imagery. If true, that's very UNcool.

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    It seems like some strange mistake or something
    as she is credited for the cover/photos of Encore ( in the box set book )

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    This reminds me of a number of reissued where someone who is essentially a reissue supervisor finds himself credited as producer on the same level as the original (real) producer. This is very wrong. Now there is no denying that Phil Smee is great at what he does and itís probably none of his doing - I imagine heís as appalled as Jerome is - but itís embarrassing at the very least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivetti View Post
    It seems like some strange mistake or something
    as she is credited for the cover/photos of Encore ( in the box set book )
    As Jerome also followed up:

    I'm not talking about the box. I'm talking about the single album re-releases, which will certainly have more buyers.

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    ^^^^^

    Purely guessing: Maybe Edgar’s widow, who owns the estate and the rights, didn’t want the credit going to wife #1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roth View Post
    As Jerome also followed up:

    I'm not talking about the box. I'm talking about the single album re-releases, which will certainly have more buyers.
    Are there single releases?
    Do they include the surround mixes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flytomars View Post
    Are there single releases?
    Do they include the surround mixes?
    Yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by progman1975 View Post
    Yes!

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    Link?
    I could not find in BS....

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    Quote Originally Posted by flytomars View Post
    Link?
    I could not find in BS....
    I have seen single releases of Phaedra and Ricochet at the FNAC shop in Perpignan. However, I'm not sure they include 5.1 mixes - didn't check it.

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    The single CDs do NOT include the 5.1

    They are CDs. They do include the bonus material.

    They are showing up late this week, along with the box.
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    ^ Bummers... box is well over my budget (I am sure it is worth it but I am just a casual TD listener)

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    Quote Originally Posted by flytomars View Post
    ^ Bummers... box is well over my budget (I am sure it is worth it but I am just a casual TD listener)
    Single CD versions include bonus material and the new stereo mixes and are budget priced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    Single CD versions include bonus material and the new stereo mixes and are budget priced.
    Thanks for the info, Steve, but my interest lies in the surround (I already have the stereo CDs / vinyls and am fine with them)

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    At one point it looked like Amazon might have screwed up my box set order, and Burning Shed have now officially sold out of their stock. So I snapped up the seven standalone cds from my local store on Friday - they cost £6 each.

    The remasters sound great - a noticeable improvement, and you get SW's stereo remixes on the Phaedra and Ricochet cds. I spent a fair bit of time doing back to back comparisons with the 1995 Definitive Edition cds, so I haven't heard the bonus material yet, but basically everything that's on the counterpart cd in the box set is included in the standalone.

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    Steve Jolliffe checked in on the Box on Facebook:

    Tangerine dream box set. I have had no communication from anybody on this release. I have tried to speak to someone at universal but everybody has completely ignored me. The only way for me to see it is to go into a shop and pay for my own music. Completely immoral. Steve jolliffe.

    to which Jerome Froese responded:

    I was ignored, too Steve, that's why I'm so upset! Welcome to 'Club Bianca' !


    I suppose there was no legal reason that any of the former TD members would have to be contacted. But it would have been nice to have created this set with their cooperation or input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roth View Post
    I suppose there was no legal reason that any of the former TD members would have to be contacted. But it would have been nice to have created this set with their cooperation or input.
    At the VERY LEAST, send them a copy of the finished product. They AT LEAST deserve that. Sure, having everyone's involvement / right of veto on any such project can turn into a nightmare and there may sometimes be a rationale for not getting everyone involved, but this isn't right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roth View Post
    Steve Jolliffe checked in on the Box on Facebook:

    Tangerine dream box set. I have had no communication from anybody on this release. I have tried to speak to someone at universal but everybody has completely ignored me. The only way for me to see it is to go into a shop and pay for my own music. Completely immoral. Steve jolliffe.
    Most people don't get free products from companies they used to work for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    Most people don't get free products from companies they used to work for.
    I don't know if this is supposed to be a joke, but to call an album you wrote and played on a "new product by one's former company" borders on the insulting, imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    I don't know if this is supposed to be a joke, but to call an album you wrote and played on a "new product by one's former company" borders on the insulting, imho.
    No, it's not a joke. It would be nice if they would have sought out former members and sent along a copy if so requested, but to call it "immoral" is a big stretch.

    If someone spends years of their professional life working on a product line (say, software), does that mean they are entitled to future releases that continue to contain the intellectual property they contributed to?

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    IF Jolliffe still has either some portion of copyright or cowriter credits for Cyclone then one would THINK as a courtesy he might've been given at least a copy of the remaster to review (same would apply for Baumann, Kruger, Franke).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    No, it's not a joke. It would be nice if they would have sought out former members and sent along a copy if so requested, but to call it "immoral" is a big stretch.

    If someone spends years of their professional life working on a product line (say, software), does that mean they are entitled to future releases that continue to contain the intellectual property they contributed to?
    Again, I don't think the parallel works here. Not wishing to be pompous, but we're talking works of art, here. Who else would be entitled to a copy if not the 3-4-5 artists and producer who together were solely responsible for bringing it to life ? Your comparison may be valid, I would say, in the case of whoever was in charge of A&R, promotion, etc., at the time of said album's release.
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