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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    He was asked, but God told him to pass on it this time. In the end, I'm glad he did or we'd never know the greatness that is Ronnie Platt.
    Platt is good. Elefante is brilliant.

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    Platt actually sounds more like Elefante than he does Walsh, to my ears, so it's almost like John is there anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    "But WTF was with Dan Rather asking them what the worst thing that happened to them in their lives was?! That brought the interview to a halt and Phil Ehart to tears. It didn't segue into anything about Phil's efforts in support of autism research of anything. Very odd segment. "

    Yeah, that was really awkward. And in the end he says "but I don't want to suggest he ruined my life" and leaves it at that. I would have said in addition to that that I love my son regardless and don't regret a single day.
    Well I'm glad it wasn't just me who found that extremely awkward. I honestly wished I hadn't heard it. I was going to tell my wife about it, but I didn't feel like repeating it. Very questionable editing going on there. Outside of that, I enjoyed the interview.

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    I like Dan Rather a lot. He's been through a hell of a lot and came through it all with his principles intact.

    However, as nice a guy he is, he is just too much of an outsider to be interviewing rock stars, IMHO. He simply lacks the coolness (for lack of a better word, which I'm too lazy to look up) to ask questions that fans watching these interviews would like to hear answered.
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    Watched "Miracles Out of Nowhere" right after it and the same stories were on both. It was almost like Rather watched the documentary and then asked questions from it.

    Wish MOoN had gone on to cover the next 2 albums as well. Stopping at POKR seemed strange to me. It was almost like the whole thing was engineered so they could talk about Carry On My Wayward Son & Dust In The Wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saucyjackstl View Post
    Watched "Miracles Out of Nowhere" right after it and the same stories were on both. It was almost like Rather watched the documentary and then asked questions from it.

    Wish MOoN had gone on to cover the next 2 albums as well. Stopping at POKR seemed strange to me. It was almost like the whole thing was engineered so they could talk about Carry On My Wayward Son & Dust In The Wind.
    I agree; while I enjoyed Kansas' Miracles Out Of Nowhere, I feel they should've discussed the albums (and the changes in the band) after POKR.

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    Might be a good excuse for a follow up.

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    I don't think they wanted to commemorate their history after PoKR. I get the idea that they wanted to "go out" on a high note.
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    I think so too, though they could tell the rest of the story and gloss over the thorny bits some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    I don't think they wanted to commemorate their history after PoKR. I get the idea that they wanted to "go out" on a high note.
    In interviews I saw with Ehart back when the DVD was released that was pretty much the reason. Some bad things went down with some band members after that period, and they just did not feel a need to pick at old scabs.

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    I still haven't seen the documentary. I'm a big Kansas fan. I got into progrock because of Kansas. Judging by most comments I've read about the docu I'm in no big hurry to see it. It's what, an hour long? Then they stop at POKR. It's almost insulting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    I still haven't seen the documentary. I'm a big Kansas fan. I got into progrock because of Kansas. Judging by most comments I've read about the docu I'm in no big hurry to see it. It's what, an hour long? Then they stop at POKR. It's almost insulting.
    I bought it back when it came out. It has a bonus disc of additional interview footage that is almost as good as the documentary itself. Personally I think the whole thing is excellent and I can't imagine that any fan wouldn't like it, but that's just me I guess.

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    I bought it back when it came out. It has a bonus disc of additional interview footage that is almost as good as the documentary itself. Personally I think the whole thing is excellent and I can't imagine that any fan wouldn't like it, but that's just me I guess.
    No, it's not just you. Aside from the fact that it ends at PoKR (which doesn't bother me at all), it's fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    I still haven't seen the documentary. I'm a big Kansas fan. I got into progrock because of Kansas. Judging by most comments I've read about the docu I'm in no big hurry to see it. It's what, an hour long? Then they stop at POKR. It's almost insulting.
    You should check it out, Vic. It's very interesting, and very thorough. I think you'd enjoy it.
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    Yep, check it out. Even my wife, who at best can stand two Kansas songs, was amazed and entranced by that doc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IncogNeato View Post
    Platt is good. Elefante is brilliant.
    Agreed!

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    I've said for years now, Vinyl Confessions is in my top 5 Kansas albums. It might have been better with Walsh singing on that album, but the songs are so good, and the production is so muscular, and the band is adventurous and awesome. VC is a special Kansas album for me.

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    Just played a YouTube video of Kerry Livgren solo. Sounds like AD. It was their version of Fair Exchange from VC. It's metallic as hell, but the original VC version is better still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    I've said for years now, Vinyl Confessions is in my top 5 Kansas albums. It might have been better with Walsh singing on that album, but the songs are so good, and the production is so muscular, and the band is adventurous and awesome. VC is a special Kansas album for me.
    Not my favorite Kansas album, but it is a very good one for sure. I had tickets to see the tour, but the show was cancelled. Rumor at the time was poor ticket sales, but I don't know if that is true or not. Unfortunately I never got to see the Elefante era of the band live.

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    Well, this is the next best thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuKnYCGvauo. John is/was excellent here. I really wish people would stop comparing who's better vocally, who would do a better job, etc. Steve Walsh is/was great. John Elefante is/was also great. There are many differences between them both. The way they enunciate/pronounce words they sing, the emotions they exude with their vocals, the way they interpret the lyrics they are trying to get across, etc. They are different people with very different backgrounds. One is not better than the other. They are different! Like one, like them both, etc, for whatever your reasons are. It's truly amazing that people always need to compare people to one another. God forbid people accept the reality as to who was in Kansas at a particular time. It's done. It is what it is.


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    That's a great video, and Elefante is fantastic on it, but I can never get past the way he "dances" with the mic.


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    Steve, thanks for posting about this! I just watched the interview on Sling TV. Dan Rather did a great job, and it was all very interesting. I do think he could have skipped the question about "the worst thing that ever happened" to each of them, as it seemed pretty painful and unexpected, but I did learn something about each of them (I never knew how Rich Williams lost his eye). Anyway, it was definitely interesting to watch these guys reach back again and tell some stories. Kudos to whoever it was, Rather or one of his crew, who knew that Kansas was a good subject for the show. They've definitely surprised me with some of their good choices.

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    During all of Rather's interviews with Rock stars, he seems like an outsider and I am pretty sure he never attended a Kansas or Geddy Lee's Rush or Robert Plant Led Zeppelin concert in his life.

    So many of his questions deal with the star's personalities, past experiences and hobbies but you'll won't hear him ask "after Point of Know return and Two for the show, did you guys feel Monolith stood out as a significant change and style for Kansas?" Never, because Rather was never a Kansas fan and was busier in 1979 reporting on the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan or Saddam Hussein because he was not a rock music reporter!

    On this show, I feel Billy Greer should have been interviewed instead of Ronnie Platt who has only been with Kansas since 2014. Nothing was said about Robbie Steinhardt who was one of the main contributors during the classic years.

    But it is always good to see one of the classic prog rock bands from the 70's showcased on a contemporary show and to keep their flame alive, something crappy MTV will never do under their current toxic music format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajaz View Post
    During all of Rather's interviews with Rock stars, he seems like an outsider and I am pretty sure he never attended a Kansas or Geddy Lee's Rush or Robert Plant Led Zeppelin concert in his life.

    So many of his questions deal with the star's personalities, past experiences and hobbies but you'll won't hear him ask "after Point of Know return and Two for the show, did you guys feel Monolith stood out as a significant change and style for Kansas?" Never, because Rather was never a Kansas fan and was busier in 1979 reporting on the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan or Saddam Hussein because he was not a rock music reporter!
    I see this as a good thing. Rather is trying to find out more about the specific people he's sitting there interviewing, and find out what it was like for them to experience what they experienced. And it seems right that they refer to the members who aren't present only in a positive way, to give them credit, or when they really need to be mentioned to explain something. It's an intimate setting. I like that it isn't just more Kansas history - not that there'd be anything wrong with that if there was something new to be brought to light.

    It's also nice to see Rather not just writing off the generations after him, but assuming they have something of value to tell him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    I like that it isn't just more Kansas history - not that there'd be anything wrong with that if there was something new to be brought to light.
    Seems to me the majority of the target audience would want to see that. I could be mistaken. But, ya gotta know your audience.
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