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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post

    But back to your comment. He probably only confessed to gratify a need he had to be heard and "admired"; he liked being written about. The same with his interview with James Dobson. I think he played Dobson like a fiddle given Dobson's previous experience in the Meese Commission.

    But Bundy was simply pathetic.
    According to the other Bundy documentary that was on tv last week (sorry, I can't remember the network) his confessions at the end were a last ditch effort to avoid the electric chair. He was trying to use additional information as a bargaining chip for a stay of execution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    I saw an amazing movie tonight, based on a true story, The Green Book. The Green Book is a 2018 American comedy-drama film. Set in the Deep South in the 1960s, it follows a tour between African-American classical and jazz pianist Don Shirley (Mahershala Ali) and Tony Vallelonga (Viggo Mortensen), an Italian-American bouncer who served as Shirley's driver and bodyguard. The movie was charged with historical inaccuracies but as a Canadian it viewed as an impressive portrayal of race relations in the U.S. in the early 1960s. All very subtly displayed through this unlikely bond between two people for two different worlds. This is a thought provoking film about relationship between these two men in a backdrop of a key historical period.
    I definitely want to try to see this one. If you have not seen Ali in the new "True Detective" series on HBO you should check it out. He is amazing in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progeezer View Post
    I binged Bundy yesterday and Polar is on my radar as well. Listening to Bundy's lunacy was creepy indeed. I didn't realize before that, after all his bullshit, he actually finally confessed and gave them an approximate count of the women he killed (he said about 30!) the day before he was executed for killing just 2 of the 30.
    I haven't seen of the recent documentaries (I saw one maybe 15 or 20 years ago), but as I recall, he was convicted of killing someone (and maybe several someones) in, I believe, the Seattle area. Washington didn't have the death penalty. If I remember correctly, he escaped from the prison library (while supposedly working on his appeal).

    The mistake he made was making his way to Florida, which does have the death penalty. Of course, he struck again there, then got caught.

    I remember seeing one of the people who worked on his case, either a prosecutor or police detective, who said he believed the reason Bundy confessed was because he was trying to strike some kind of bargain whereby he'd be given a stay of execution in exchange for information on the other women he killed.

    (Shrug)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I definitely want to try to see this one. If you have not seen Ali in the new "True Detective" series on HBO you should check it out. He is amazing in it.
    Steve, my guess is you'll like it. I'll have to try True Detective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    According to the other Bundy documentary that was on tv last week (sorry, I can't remember the network) his confessions at the end were a last ditch effort to avoid the electric chair. He was trying to use additional information as a bargaining chip for a stay of execution.
    Yeah, you're right. They mentioned that. And I'm sure that was probably the vast majority of his reason. I still think he just liked having someone listen to him talk about whatever.

    You know, when I was reading your post I had a feeling I've seen that. Maybe that's the "more recent" thing I saw. If so, it originally aired last year, IIRC.

    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    I haven't seen of the recent documentaries (I saw one maybe 15 or 20 years ago), but as I recall, he was convicted of killing someone (and maybe several someones) in, I believe, the Seattle area. Washington didn't have the death penalty. If I remember correctly, he escaped from the prison library (while supposedly working on his appeal).
    He was convicted of kidnapping in Utah. He was then extradited to Colorado for the murder of a woman there. And he actually escaped twice. The first time he jumped out of the 2nd story window of the law library in the courthouse in CO. The second time he pushed the light fixture in his cell up into the ceiling and squeezed through the opening.

    [quote]The mistake he made was making his way to Florida, which does have the death penalty. Of course, he struck again there, then got caught.
    His reasoning was he wanted to go to the opposite corner of the country, away from the NW. He also said that since he had no place to live or sleep, it was a lot easier in a warm climate.

    I remember seeing one of the people who worked on his case, either a prosecutor or police detective, who said he believed the reason Bundy confessed was because he was trying to strike some kind of bargain whereby he'd be given a stay of execution in exchange for information on the other women he killed.
    Yeah, that was in the other documentary. But Florida had had their fill of him and didn't care what info he had. He also thought he could be useful to the FBI in helping them to understand serial killers in general as well as helping them profile serial killers at large. But he was just gaming the system. Altho, it turned out he really was useful to the FBI.

    When I was stationed in NJ, I saw a car with Florida plates drive by our base. This was the summer before he was executed. This was also around the time states had started passing mandatory seat belt laws. Anyway, the bumper sticker read, "I'll buckle up when Bundy does. It's the law."
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    He was convicted of kidnapping in Utah. He was then extradited to Colorado for the murder of a woman there. And he actually escaped twice. The first time he jumped out of the 2nd story window of the law library in the courthouse in CO
    .

    That's the one I remember hearing about. I don't think I was aware of the second escape.

    His reasoning was he wanted to go to the opposite corner of the country, away from the NW. He also said that since he had no place to live or sleep, it was a lot easier in a warm climate.
    Yeah, I understand the logic of getting as far from the region where you're a wanted man. That's like Surviving As A Fugitive From Justice 101. You don't want to be caught anywhere near where you're fleeing from, nor do you want to get in touch with any family or friends from your old life, because that's the first place the authorities are gonna look.

    Maybe if he could have avoided committing any more crimes, he might have been live that way for at least a little while. But who knows? With the advent of TV shows like America's Most Wanted, it became hard for fugitives to stay hidden. I remember on like the first episode of that show, they covered a man who had murdered his entire family and had been on the lam for something like 18 years. Like immediately after the show he was featured on broadcast, he was captured. He had been living on the other side of the country, under an assumed name, married with children, etc, and nobody even suspected that he might have been a murderer (as Jay Leno once said, I'm waiting for the day when they do catch a murderer and the neighbors say, "He was loud, he was obnoxious, he scared the children and we saw this coming long ago!").

    Yeah, that was in the other documentary. But Florida had had their fill of him and didn't care what info he had.
    Yeah, Florida is one of those places where they don't have much patience of people who commit heinous crimes like Bundy did.

    One thing that drove me crazy, well, maybe not "drove me crazy", but I saw one of those TV preachers, I guess it must have been Pat Robertson or one of his cohorts, anyway, this turkey was playing footage from Bundy's last interview, where he talked about how he started off reading pornography as a teenager, and that's what led him down the road that led to him being executed. And the TV preacher was trying to make it sound like it was the porno that caused him to be a sadistic murderer. Yeah, whatever pal. I'm pretty sure there's lots of people who were exposed to pornography who didn't become serial killers. Or Rapists. Or child molesters. Or bank robbers. Or even smooth jazz musicians, for that matter.

    I remember the morning he was finally executed, I used to listen to a morning radio show, and I remember DJ's saying the station was "going off the air for a couple minutes" to insure there was enough electricity available to kill Ted Bundy. I mean, it was a tasteless joke, obviously, but I thought it was funny at the time.

    I also remember there was a "famous brains on drugs" poster (remember the TV commercial, where the guy holds up the egg, and says "This is your brain", then cracks into the skillet, cooks it for a minute and says, "This is your brain on drugs. Any questions?"). One of them was a fully burnt egg, which was identified as Ted Bundy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    I saw one of those TV preachers, I guess it must have been Pat Robertson or one of his cohorts, anyway, this turkey was playing footage from Bundy's last interview, where he talked about how he started off reading pornography as a teenager, and that's what led him down the road that led to him being executed. And the TV preacher was trying to make it sound like it was the porno that caused him to be a sadistic murderer.
    Well, that was the era of the anti-porn crusades. Remember the Meese Commission? They were appointed by Reagan to look into pornography. One of the members was Dr. James Dobson, a Christian psychologist, weekly radio show host, and author (famous for his book Dare to Discipline), who was a frequent guest on TV evangelist shows. Which is why Bundy chose him to talk about his porn addiction. Bundy was just playing him for a fool. I doubt Dobson was clueless to Bundy's manipulation but used him for his crusade, nevertheless, and it was Dobson who video taped that interview.

    I actually had respect for Dobson at one time until he told a story about how he was at a symposium where the speaker was talking about HIV. The subject of safe sex came up and the speaker talked about how latex is actually porous and that those pores are roughly 5 microns in size whereas HIV is 0.1 microns, the implication being that safe sex isn't actually safe. Dobson said the speaker asked the audience that if they knew their partner had AIDS if they'd still have sex with them if a condom was available. Dobson said no one in the audience, which were mostly doctors, raised their hand.

    He told that story on the radio.

    I could go into detail about why this logic is flawed but suffice to say that of the four sexual demographics, at one time the group with the lowest infection rate was homosexual men, the group who had previously been the highest. The reason? Because they started practicing safe sex!

    I realized then James Dobson was so biased against gays he was an idiot, not to mention incredibly irresponsible.

    I'm pretty sure there's lots of people who were exposed to pornography who didn't become... smooth jazz musicians...
    From my understanding, based on statistics, an inordinately high percentage of smooth jazz musicians and their fans are porn addicts. Kenny G and his fan base alone keeps "The Valley" employed.

    I remember the morning he was finally executed, I used to listen to a morning radio show, and I remember DJ's saying the station was "going off the air for a couple minutes" to insure there was enough electricity available to kill Ted Bundy. I mean, it was a tasteless joke, obviously, but I thought it was funny at the time.
    That sounds like something Howard Stern would say. Funny? Meh.

    I also remember there was a "famous brains on drugs" poster. One of them was a fully burnt egg, which was identified as Ted Bundy.
    Now that is funny.
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    I realized then James Dobson was so biased against gays he was an idiot, not to mention incredibly irresponsible.
    Like Fred Phelps, Dobson was likely a self-loathing closeted cock-monger. Nothing wrong with being gay, just not the self-loathing closeted menace to society type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    Well, that was the era of the anti-porn crusades. Remember the Meese Commission? They were appointed by Reagan to look into pornography. One of the members was Dr. James Dobson, a Christian psychologist, weekly radio show host, and author (famous for his book Dare to Discipline), who was a frequent guest on TV evangelist shows. Which is why Bundy chose him to talk about his porn addiction. Bundy was just playing him for a fool. I doubt Dobson was clueless to Bundy's manipulation but used him for his crusade, nevertheless, and it was Dobson who video taped that interview.
    I remember the name Ed Meese. I remember Johnny Carson talking about how much he looked like Ed McMahon. According to Johnny, the US Attorney General's office were going to send out letters, with Ed Meese's face on them, saying, "You may have already been indicted by the Attorney General" or something like that.

    But to be honest, I'm hazy about a lot of that Reagan era stuff, beyond the business about James Baker banning The Beach Boys from performing a Fourth Of July concert in DC, only to be unilaterally overruled by Reagan himself (who apparently was a fan, somehow).

    Sigh! I was gonna post some stuff I remember about that era, but I don't want to get too much into the religion/political stuff, as per the site guidelines. I just remember wishing we could send some of the people who held sway over the broadcasting industry in the 80's to Iran or some other place where they could find out what living under theocratic rule is like.

    I could go into detail about why this logic is flawed but suffice to say that of the four sexual demographics, at one time the group with the lowest infection rate was homosexual men, the group who had previously been the highest. The reason? Because they started practicing safe sex!

    I realized then James Dobson was so biased against gays he was an idiot, not to mention incredibly irresponsible.
    Sounds like one of those Pat Robertson/Jerry Falwell types. Remember when Falwell blamed homosexuals and feminists for the September 11th attacks?
    From my understanding, based on statistics, an inordinately high percentage of smooth jazz musicians and their fans are porn addicts. Kenny G and his fan base alone keeps "The Valley" employed.
    I was gonna suggest that someone who'd been exposed to "adult entertainment" would have better taste than that, but then I suppose it could depend on what kind of "adult entertainment" we're talking about. There's a big difference between "erotica" and "pornography", though the likes of Dobson, Robertson and Falwell don't see it that way. I imagine someone who was into erotica might be more inclined towards free jazz, while the sort of smutty pornography would lead you down the path towards Pat Metheny's "favorite" saxophonist!
    That sounds like something Howard Stern would say. Funny? Meh.
    Well, remember I was a teenager at the time that I heard that joke about makign sure there was enough electricity for Bundy's execution. At the time, I thought a lot of Frank Zappa's lyrics (the ones I had heard at the time) were funny too.

    re: the "Famous Brains On Drugs" poster
    Now that is funny.
    There was a whole slew of them. As I recall, there was a carton of imitation egg substitute, which was identified as Milli Vanilli. There was a perfectly fried egg white, with no yolk, which I think might have been either Kenny G or Michael Bolton, someone like that. I forget what the other ones were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    Polar

    Netflix original film about an agency of hit men. (and women) Mandatory retirement occurs at age 50, as they want
    their employees to remain sharp. Retirement comes with a company pension. What happens when the company
    decides that it is better for their bottom line for the retiree to die, rather than fund the pension? Gritty, and very violent.
    I enjoyed this one a lot!
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    I'm up for mindless action if it makes me laugh. I definitely did during this trailer:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    Steve, my guess is you'll like it. I'll have to try True Detective.
    Again, very highly recommended.

    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post

    Yeah, whatever pal. I'm pretty sure there's lots of people who were exposed to pornography who didn't become serial killers. Or Rapists. Or child molesters. Or bank robbers. Or even smooth jazz musicians, for that matter.
    Nice.
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    The Night Comes For Us

    Asian Netflix original film about an elite assassin for the Triad who is unable to take the life of a young girl. Way over the top
    action and violence. Mostly in Chinese with subtitles, but for some reason also has a smattering of English throughout. Fights,
    fights,and more fights. This was a lot of fun.
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    Checked out Suspiria (2018) on Prime last night.

    Beautiful looking film that's set in 1977 Berlin.

    Not very scary or gory.

    Superb acting by everyone, especially Tilda.

    It's very long, almost 3 hours.

    Pretty confusing with an over the top finale.

    I got a similar feeling from Kubricks Eyes Wide Shut.

    Overall I give it a 6.5/10
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    Checked out Suspiria (2018) on Prime last night.

    Beautiful looking film that's set in 1977 Berlin.

    Not very scary or gory.
    A remake of the Dario Argento classic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    A remake of the Dario Argento classic?
    Yes.

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    I was hesitant about Suspiria with the original being one of my favorite horror movies. I'll have to check it out.

    I have two Bluerays, Upgrade and Summer of 84 waiting in the wings. I've had many friends force me to get these because they insist I'll love 'em. I better! Without giving anything away, anyone seen either one?
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    I was hesitant about Suspiria with the original being one of my favorite horror movies. I'll have to check it out.
    ?
    I'm hesitant about pretty much all remakes. Very seldom does anyone do anything that's actually worth watching. A lot of times you wonder why they didn't just take the "original spin" and build a whole new movie around the new ideas.

    There are exceptions. Throw Mama From The Train is essentially a remake of Strangers On A Train, played for laughs. I thought that worked really well. The Hammer Frankenstein and Dracula movies I think are all pretty awesome, at least the ones I've seen anyway.

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    The 2018 Suspiria is one of the worst pieces of crap I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonk View Post
    I was hesitant about Suspiria with the original being one of my favorite horror movies. I'll have to check it out.

    I have two Bluerays, Upgrade and Summer of 84 waiting in the wings. I've had many friends force me to get these because they insist I'll love 'em. I better! Without giving anything away, anyone seen either one?
    I loved Upgrade, but have seen a lot of negative opinions on it elsewhere.
    I only clicked on it because I thought it was going to be something more interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonk View Post
    I was hesitant about Suspiria with the original being one of my favorite horror movies. I'll have to check it out.

    I have two Bluerays, Upgrade and Summer of 84 waiting in the wings. I've had many friends force me to get these because they insist I'll love 'em. I better! Without giving anything away, anyone seen either one?
    Actually just watched Upgrade last night. Moves a little slow at the start, then picks up. Fooled me at the end , some decent plot twists. Imaginative sets , really not a bad movie. I went in expecting total mindlessness , which this one is not. I give a thumbs up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonk View Post
    I was hesitant about Suspiria with the original being one of my favorite horror movies. I'll have to check it out.
    They're calling it a re-imagining , not a remake.

    A lot of extra stuff added, not a slasher movie, like Argentos.
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    Finally watched Bohemian Rhapsody last night. I don't really have much to add that hasn't already been said: the timeline is very odd, at times, Malek is fantastic, etc.

    They definitely didn't paint Freddie to be a saint, like I expected, which was good to see. It would have been really cool to see how they recorded "Under Pressure" with Bowie, but the movie can only be so long, I suppose.

    While Malek was excellent, I thought the guy who played Brian May was absolutely incredible. Looked like him, sounded like him, had all of his movements and the little elements of his guitar playing down cold. There was a lot of attention to detail for things that would normally really annoy Guitar Geek. Roger Taylor's bass drum cover, for example. Brian Mays' Vox amps. The wardrobes.

    Overall, I was really impressed.
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    Upgrade--it's a fun SF movie, lots of action, I really got into it.

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    Yeah, my friends who have recommended Upgrade to me are people who's tastes are very similar to mine so I'm looking forward to it. Same with Summer of 84.
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