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    I haven't seen Hereditary yet, but it's next up in the Q.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Mail View Post
    Regarding George Harrison and Python, it was Life of Brian where he had a walk on part. Harrison had bailed out the pythons when the movie was having problems getting the budget together, and his Handmade Films company ended up financing the movie.

    Harrison has a very quick 'blink and you will miss it' cameo where he is introduced to Brian as the man arranging the sermon on the mount for them. Harrison gets one line...'Hello', in a somewhat comically dubbed fashion.
    Right, hence the sarcastic "much coveted role of..." line from Palin. I couldn't remember if it was Life Of Brian or Holy Grail that George had bailed them out on. As I recall, Handmade Films went on to make quite a few really good movies, but then went south when they got involved with that movie that Madonna and Sean Penn starred in while they were married, Shanghai Surprise, I believe it was called. I forget who it was who said that Handmade Films produced one of the best movies (Life Of Brian) and one of the worst (Shanghai Surprise), though I bet you could say similar things about most movie houses.
    I would be more enthusiastic if they had let Goblin do a new soundtrack. ;-)
    They probably wanted to give the new version it's "own distinct personality". I haven't really seen many new horror movies these days. What little I've seen suggests...wait a minute, didn't we already have this conversation on this thread? I think we might have. I just think a lot of movies these days are long on gore and "torture porn" and short on genuinely inventive writing.

    Speaking of new horror pictures, what's the deal with this new Halloween movie I've seen promos. Apparently, in this version, Michael Myers has been in captivity for 40 years, before escaping and Jamie Lee Curtis intends to kill him. Wait, I thought she was killed off in like the 6th or 7th movie. Or are they retconning however many pictures it's been since her character was killed off. Or is this another reboot (like the Rob Zombie version)?

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    Is Don Argento a contemporary of Cletus Fulci?
    I'm not sure what you mean by "Cletus Fulci". I know who Lucio Fulci was, but I don't get the "Cletus" thing. In Italian and Spanish, "Don" means "Sir" or "Mister", hence the phrase "Mafia Don", for instance. It's the same as if I refer to Michael Schenker or Uli Jon Roth as Herr Michael or Herr Uli, or if I refer to Akira Takasaki as Akira-san.

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    Okay, boss. Just took the opportunity to make a non-joke. Move along, nothing to see here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropforge View Post
    Okay, boss. Just took the opportunity to make a non-joke. Move along, nothing to see here...
    , nothing like a complete dissection of an off hand aside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post

    Speaking of new horror pictures, what's the deal with this new Halloween movie I've seen promos. Apparently, in this version, Michael Myers has been in captivity for 40 years, before escaping and Jamie Lee Curtis intends to kill him. Wait, I thought she was killed off in like the 6th or 7th movie. Or are they retconning however many pictures it's been since her character was killed off. Or is this another reboot (like the Rob Zombie version)?

    I don't think it matters, as long as it has the essence of Halloween 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    As I recall, Handmade Films went on to make quite a few really good movies, but then went south when they got involved with that movie that Madonna and Sean Penn starred in while they were married, Shanghai Surprise
    I remember George saying Madonna and Penn were assholes. His words, not mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    I remember George saying Madonna and Penn were assholes. His words, not mine.
    Yeah, I can see that. Sean was kinda notorious at the time for punching out photographers, so yeah, I'd say he's definitely an asshole.

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    Hollywood Shuffle: great, late 80's satire, co-written, and directed by Robert Townsend, about the stereotyping of black American actors in movies and TV shows. Very funny, and very thought provoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    Yeah, I can see that. Sean was kinda notorious at the time for punching out photographers, so yeah, I'd say he's definitely an asshole.
    I don't think its that simple.

    You think he's an asshole for punching photographers? You don't think those same photographers are well aware that provoking a reaction in someone like Penn to get him to throw a punch is worth a lot of money to them?

    Not saying the guy was a saint, but the paparazzi also have a lot to answer for. Scottish comedian and actor Billy Connolly also went through a similar phase back in the 80's.

    Bottom line is, a photo of a celeb calmly posing for a photo and smiling is worth X to that photographer...but a photo of them swinging at the photographer is worth XXXXX.

    Same shit still goes on, with celebrity stalkers constantly poking cameras into the faces of those celebs they know they can get a reaction from.
    I only clicked on it because I thought it was going to be something more interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    Hollywood Shuffle: great, late 80's satire, co-written, and directed by Robert Townsend, about the stereotyping of black American actors in movies and TV shows. Very funny, and very thought provoking.
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    Watched Halloween last night. Better than I remembered it being. It's interesting how it's credited with starting the "slasher" genre, but it's actually not very graphic. It's not like subsequent films, where Tom Savini and his colleagues devised ever more gruesome ways of depicting the murders. Even when Michael uses a knife, you don't really see much of anything. And one of the victims (PJ Soles, I forgot you could see her breasts in that scene), he merely strangles with the telephone cord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    It's not like subsequent films, where Tom Savini and his colleagues devised ever more gruesome ways of depicting the murders.
    Not to be nit-picky, and perhaps I am mis-reading this, but Savini never worked on the Halloween films. But he did work on some of the Friday the 13th filmds and Romero's Dawn of the Dead/Day of the Dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    Not to be nit-picky, and perhaps I am mis-reading this, but Savini never worked on the Halloween films..
    Well, I suppose I phrased it ambiguously, but I am aware that Tom Savini never worked on the Halloween pictures. My point was that Halloween is considered a slasher film, but there was a lot less gore than you associate with that genre. Same thing with Texas Chainsaw Massacre, a lot of people who see that movie on TV think they're watching a censored print or whatever, because contrary to the picture's reputation, "you don't really see anything".

    BTW, Wikipedia says the new Halloween film is a direct sequel to the original 1978 film, and as such, retcons all the sequels. John Carpenter is serving as executive producer, composer, and "creative consultant".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    Not to be nit-picky, and perhaps I am mis-reading this, but Savini never worked on the Halloween films. But he did work on some of the Friday the 13th filmds and Romero's Dawn of the Dead/Day of the Dead.
    Some of Savini's best work is in The Prowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropforge View Post
    Some of Savini's best work is in The Prowler.
    THat one's been playing on the premium channels (I think The Movie Channel) a lot lately.

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    I recently watched a documentary called Room 237. It's about some strange things that occur in Stanley Kubrick's The Shining, such as clues to a conspiracy theory, incongruities, and "errors" of continuity and the interpretations of those clues, incongruities, and errors.

    So I rewatched The Shining and tried to pay attention to what was talked about in the documentary. The doc mentioned 3 or 4 errors of continuity but I found 6 total. I also discovered some incongruities that weren't mentioned in the doc. Unfortunately, I ended up getting caught up in the story and stopped paying attention. Even still, it took me over 3 hours to watch a movie that's about 2:20.

    Now, I didn't find all the interpretations believable but the errors of continuity and the incongruities I found fascinating and the "clues" to the conspiracy theory made me sit up and think, "whoa," even if I don't buy into the conspiracy.

    It must be said that given that The Shining was made by Mr Meticulous, the errors of continuity and incongruities were no accident. The question remains, what is the purpose? I have various ideas but I'd be curious to know what others think who are aware of the strange things in The Shining.

    Here's an example of an "error" from early in the movie. It's a side by side comparison of the door to Danny's bedroom. On the left of the photo is while Danny is talking to "Tony". It's not shown in the movie but we learn later that Danny passes out and Wendy calls a doctor. On the right of the photo is just after the doctor has examined Danny; Wendy is leading her out of the bedroom. Note how Dopey is missing:

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    And here's an example of an incongruity, which occurs while Wendy and Danny are watching TV. You can see Danny lying on the floor in the lower right. Anyone notice anything strange?

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    I guess that when you've got the "shine" like Danny you can watch TV without power or something to carry the signal.
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    Yeah, I found that really strange that there's no power chord to the TV.
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    The owner of the TV is a prog junkie. Of course they hid the cord. It is a flat cord, goes under the rug and then cores thru, then up the back leg of the table. Duh!

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    Kubrick was the first cord-cutter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    Kubrick was the first cord-cutter!

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    I've heard mention of things about The Shining, but never delved into them. Without context, I'd think that maybe the cord was hidden just for the sake of a clean shot. The area is spartan, Danny being the only thing to break up the visual symmetry, and a cord would simply distract from that visual.

    But I am curious about what people think the movie means. I'll have to look into that more someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frinspar View Post
    I've heard mention of things about The Shining, but never delved into them. Without context, I'd think that maybe the cord was hidden just for the sake of a clean shot. The area is spartan, Danny being the only thing to break up the visual symmetry, and a cord would simply distract from that visual.
    Only from that picture. The shot is actually of Wendy on a sofa to the left and Danny on the floor, bottom right. That photo is from when the camera dollies in. But there are a bunch more incongruities and errors of continuity that have little to no explanation. I should post some more.

    Anyone want to see more of them? Otherwise, you'll just have to take my word for it.
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    If you feel like it, please do. I'm always interested in that kind of thing.

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