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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebone View Post
    You Were Never Really Here (2017)

    Joaquin Phoenix stars as a traumatized war vet with PTSD who tracks down missing girls.
    A brutal & grim existential art film .
    I liked it!

    The Equalizer (2014)

    A 60 year old Denzel Washington stars as a genius super soldier that's equal parts Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, The Terminator and every 80s action / 00s superhero movie you've ever seen.

    So many bullets, so many misses
    Both films deal with similar themes I guess, one very subtly the other more obvious.

    I was not sure about You Were Never Really Here...I liked it but it didn't wow me. A film I need to watch again at some point.

    Whereas Equaliser is just by-the-numbers vigilantism, and I really don't know why Washington continues to make these movies, when he can do stuff like Fences and Roman J Israel Esq. Sure both of the latter had their problems, but I liked them and would much rather watch him do stuff like that.
    I only clicked on it because I thought it was going to be something more interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Mail View Post
    Both films deal with similar themes I guess, one very subtly the other more obvious.

    I was not sure about You Were Never Really Here...I liked it but it didn't wow me. A film I need to watch again at some point.

    Whereas Equaliser is just by-the-numbers vigilantism, and I really don't know why Washington continues to make these movies, when he can do stuff like Fences and Roman J Israel Esq. Sure both of the latter had their problems, but I liked them and would much rather watch him do stuff like that.
    Simple, it's the reason many actors take parts: money. Denzel got $20 million just for showing up, not to mention the back-end. Not a thing bad or wrong with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frinspar View Post
    Simple, it's the reason many actors take parts: money. Denzel got $20 million just for showing up, not to mention the back-end. Not a thing bad or wrong with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frinspar View Post
    Simple, it's the reason many actors take parts: money. Denzel got $20 million just for showing up, not to mention the back-end. Not a thing bad or wrong with it.
    Definitely agree. A perfect example (even more than Denzel) is arguably the greatest actor of his generation, DeNiro, who has made a whole bunch of forgettable crap films in addition to the other part of his resume. The motivation can only be financial.
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    Michael Caine is these guy's spirit animal. Make $$$ doing crap, do small projects you love. But damn, I am sick of the senior avenger genre.
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    The first Taken was fairly decent, I thought. At the very least, it was interesting to see Liam Neeson in that kind of role (before it became ubiquitous). But it seems like an overdone thing now, IMO.

    Speaking of vigilante movies, anyone here remember Death Sentence with Kevin Bacon? I thought that was a pretty interesting one, up until the final act at least when it kinda foregoes realism in favor of action movie tropes. But the first 3/4 of the movie were intense and I liked that it was not pro-vigilantism. Super depressing though.

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    Sorry my remark about The Texas Chainsaw Massacre was seemingly snarky as it was meant tongue in cheek. For those who aren't into horror flicks I recommend Nightmares in Red, White and Blue: The Evolution of the American Horror Film. A really good doc examining horror movies through the decades. Nice quote from the IMDB page I'll share.

    George A. Romero: [talking about the 1960s and Night of the Living Dead] I thought it was about revolution. Um, you know we were '60s guys and, um, thinking in those terms sort of pissed off that the '60s revolution didn't work peace and love didn't solve anything in the end in fact shit was looking worse. And I said, what would be a really earth shattering thing that would revolutionary and that people would refuse to ignore. THE DEAD STOP STAYING DEAD! Oh! And there's one thing more, THEY LIKE TO EAT LIVING PEOPLE!

    His series of zombie flicks are so cool. Listen to the commentaries and he explains exactly what he's commenting about.

    Bruce Willis - Breakfast of Champions from Kurt Vonnegut. I've seen it but I gotta think it sucked as I can't remember a damned thing about it. It's Vonnegut so maybe it didn't translate to film well.

    I didn't hate The Godfather but never really got it. Great wedding scene at the beginning and it's all well done and such but never really caught me. Goodfellas is the same for me but I did enjoy Casino as I grew up in Las Vegas when that stuff was happening and it's a pretty damned good job of showing what really went down. Not so fun fact- the girl who brings out the birthday cake I dated a couple of times.

    LOL watching my guilty pleasure Law and Order:SVU and the guy asks the girl her fave movie and she responds Godfather, 1 and 2. Timing is funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebone View Post
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    Liam Neeson kick started the senior action genre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    I agree AWiL is a classic, too. In fact, I think it's John Landis' best movie. Even better than The Blues Brothers.
    Agree AAWIL is Landis’ best film. I’m actually not a fan of The Blues Brothers. It has a few funny bits, butt just IMO the whole “Blues Brothers” schtick is neither funny or entertaining. Just not for me, really. The same way I’d have a hard time watching Dr. Detroit again.

    Actually, I never saw all of Dr. Detroit, just some of it.
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    Re: American Werewolf In London

    One of the better stabs (heh) at horror during our lifetimes.

    Agreed with all of the previous remarks, but no mention yet of that dream within a dream within a dream sequence?

    Best shock of the film, with the possible exception of how fast Griffin Dunne disappears from the moors. Jenny Agutter, so lovely, so vulnerable, so DEAD!!!

    I'd wake in a cold sweat, too.
    Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know.

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    Agreed with all of the previous remarks, but no mention yet of that dream within a dream within a dream sequence?
    Yeah, that was pretty cool.

    One thing we haven't talked about here is, apparently, Michael Jackson was a big fan of An American Werewolf In London, and in fact, hired John Landis and much of his crew (certainly Rick Baker, who created the transformation sequence) for his Thriller video. I remember at the time, a documentary was done on the making of Thriller, and there's a bit where Landis rattles off a list of his other movies, each one of which Micheal says he's never seen, except An American Werewolf In London. Landis even worked his "See You Next Wednesday" signature into the video.

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    TheLooney ; "George A. Romero: [talking about the 1960s and Night of the Living Dead] I thought it was about revolution. Um, you know we were '60s guys and, um, thinking in those terms sort of pissed off that the '60s revolution didn't work peace and love didn't solve anything in the end in fact shit was looking worse. And I said, what would be a really earth shattering thing that would revolutionary and that people would refuse to ignore. THE DEAD STOP STAYING DEAD! Oh! And there's one thing more, THEY LIKE TO EAT LIVING PEOPLE! "

    I disagree giving Romero the credit for zombie flicks. The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price features zombies and predates NOTLD by 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankh View Post
    Agreed with all of the previous remarks, but no mention yet of that dream within a dream within a dream sequence?
    I did mention David's nightmares. Yes, beautiful Jenny Agutter in her nurse's uniform being stabbed repeatedly long after she's dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    IMO the whole “Blues Brothers” schtick is neither funny or entertaining. Just not for me, really. The same way I’d have a hard time watching Dr. Detroit again.
    I actually like Aykroyd's "stone-face monotone" schtick -- to me, the funniest bit of "Ghostbusters" was him intoning "The Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man," and "Dragnet" is an underrated, fun flick -- but "The Blues Brothers" to me was car-crash excess posing as a movie. By the tenth car crash, I'd forgotten anything else had happened beforehand.
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    Bruce Willis - Breakfast of Champions from Kurt Vonnegut. I've seen it but I gotta think it sucked as I can't remember a damned thing about it. It's Vonnegut so maybe it didn't translate to film well.
    Most Vonnegut films suck. The one exception I know of is Mother Night, starring a surprisingly well-cast Nick Nolte. It captures the feel and mood of the book quite well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    Most Vonnegut films suck. The one exception I know of is Mother Night, starring a surprisingly well-cast Nick Nolte. It captures the feel and mood of the book quite well.
    While the film was meh, Valerie Perrine's Montana Wildhack in SH Five was killer imo.
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    Watched a vert artsy weird sci-fi movie last night Under The Skin, Scarlett Johansson as an extraterrestrial in Scotland kidnapping unsuspecting men. Very slow with very little dialogue but kind of interesting in a mesmerizing sort of way, plus you do get Scarlett in the buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycsteve View Post

    I disagree giving Romero the credit for zombie flicks. The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price features zombies and predates NOTLD by 4 years.
    Romero created the first flesh eating zombies flick.

    I met George at a horror convention a couple years ago, and he was the sweetest most unassuming movie person I ever met.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    Most Vonnegut films suck. The one exception I know of is Mother Night, starring a surprisingly well-cast Nick Nolte. It captures the feel and mood of the book quite well.
    What? I didn't know they made a movie of Breakfast of Champions. Yeah, I don't see how that book could work well as a movie.

    But there's no way this movie based on a Vonnegut book could be bad:


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasKDye View Post
    "The Blues Brothers" to me was car-crash excess posing as a movie. By the tenth car crash, I'd forgotten anything else had happened beforehand.
    SPOILER ALERT for anyone who somehow has never seen The Blues Brothers:






    You don't remember The Penguin coming at Jake and Elwood, first with a ruler, then one of those teacher pointer things, after they both swear in front of her? Or James Brown giving the mother of all soul sermons, causing Jake to see the light?! Or them going to round up the band (first visiting "Mrs. Toronto"), only to find most of them playing in a hotel lounge?!

    You don't remember "So, Jake, you're out! You're a free man! What's next?! Whatcha got planned?! You got that money you owe us, Motherfucker?". You don't remember Duck Dunn suggesting that "We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline!"?! You don't remember Jake and Elwood's visit to Chez Paul's ("How much for the little girl?! Your women! Sell me your women!") to persuade Mr. Fabulous to rejoin the band? Or Aretha Franklin's indignation at the thought of Matt "Guitar" Murphy "sliding around with your white hoodlum friends". Or her yelling "Well, go ahead, DAMMIT!" at Blue Lou when he stands there (after Jake, Elwood and Matt have already left), like he's afraid she's going to hit him.

    You don't remember John Lee Hooker's super cool performance on Maxwell Street, outside Aretha and Matt's soul food restaurant (note: this song is restore to it's full length on the DVD version)? You don't remember Jake conning his way into a gig at Bob's Country Bunker ("We get both kinds of music: country and western!")? You don't remember Charles Napier saying "You're going to look awfully funny trying to eat corn-on-the-cob with no fucking teeth!"

    You don't remember John Candy as Burton Mercer? You don't remember him cheerily saying, "This is car 55. Uhm, we're in a truck!"?! Or Carrie Fisher's multiple attempts to kill an apparently unaware Jake and Elwood?! Or Jake begging for his life before her? "IT WASN'T MY FAULT! I SWEAR TO GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!" You don't remember him taking off his shades (the only time it happens in the entire movie) and giving her "the eyes", and then she melts into his arms, they kiss, and he literally drops her in the muck as he and Elwood make their escape.

    You don't remember Curtis stalling for time at the Palace Hotel Ballroom by singing Minnie The Moocher? (that song also is restored to it's full length on the DVD). You don't remember Steve Lawrence as Maury Sline, the apparently adulterous concert promoter ("Uh, how's Mrs. Sline? I bet I have some information she might like to know") who meets with the band in a sauna (apparently, intended as an allusion to whichever Blood Sweat And Tears album it was that had the band in a sauna on the cover).

    You don't remember the grass roots promotion campaign to make people aware of the Palace Hotel Ballroom performance? You don't remember Jake and Elwood running out of gas, and having to push the car to a gas station, only to find the gas station is out of gas? Or Elwood conning $95 out of Twiggy by posing as a gas station attendant?

    Shit, what else happened in that movie? You don't remember Steven Spielberg as the tax clerk? You don't remember the Blues Mobile finally collapsing, immediately after they jump out of it at Dealy Plaza? You don't remember Elwood looking like a friend just died?! You don't remember the invasion of Dealy Plaza (ie police, SWAT, Army, the works!). You don't remember all those guns pointed at Jake and Elwood in the tax office?! You don't remember "Unnecessary violence in the apprehension of the Blues Brothers has been approved"?! You don't remember the Illinois Nazis?! "I've always loved you?"

    You don't remember them jumping over an open draw bridge? You don't remember Jake telling Elwood to "fix the cigarette lighter" (after he'd already thrown it out the window)? You don't remember "This was a bargain! I got it at a Mount Prospect police auction! It's an old Mount Prospect police car! They were practically giving them away!"? You don't remember "It wasn't lies. It was just bullshit.". You don't remember SCMODS ("State County Municipal Offender Data System")?

    OH yeah, and how could you forget Ray Charles as the owner and proprietor of Ray's Music Exchange? "Excuse me, I don't think there's anything wrong with the action on this piano" (sits down launches into Shake Your Tailfeather). You don't remember all those people dancing furiously outside Ray's Music Exchange (they had to, to keep warm, the scene was actually shot in the dead of winter).

    You seriously don't remember any of that?!

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    It appears that someone has memorized every line in The Blues Brothers....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    Watched a vert artsy weird sci-fi movie last night Under The Skin, Scarlett Johansson as an extraterrestrial in Scotland kidnapping unsuspecting men. Very slow with very little dialogue but kind of interesting in a mesmerizing sort of way, plus you do get Scarlett in the buff.
    Good movie!

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    SPOILER ALERT for anyone who somehow has never seen The Blues Brothers:
    The only reason I think AAWiL is better than TBB is because, as I said earlier, of the perfect blend of comedy & horror, which is really hard to pull off. Otherwise, TBB is such an excellent, modern screwball comedy. So many great moments in that movie.

    You don't remember John Candy as Burton Mercer?
    I can't explain why but this is my favorite moment in TBB:

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    I was never a fan of The Blues Brother's comedy/music.

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