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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    Pia Zadora's Golden Globe award win was infamous. Her sugar daddy/husband wined/dined/bribed the hell out of the Hollywood Foreign Press. She's also notorious for playing the title role in the stage play "Anne Frank" in a production in Los Angeles. Legend has it that in the third act, when stormtroopers march down the aisles toward the stage, someone yelled "she's in the attic"!


    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie View Post
    Hitchcock's Rope was amazing as he told the entire story in one shot (as if you just another guest at the dinner party), but he had to cheat as cans of film only contained approximately 10 minutes worth of shooting so he'd "cheat" and end the roll on someones back or whatever and pick up where that shot left off. But still, that's 10 minutes of continuous acting, cinematography, direction, lighting, etc. Quite the feat.
    Rope is a fun one to watch, trying to catch the little edits. Love it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    For continuous shots, two of my favorites are in Alfonso Cuarón's Children of Men.
    I only remember one, but it was pretty epic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie View Post
    Agreed. Directors have been paying homage to this very shot ever since. Altman's The Player comes to mind. There is a continuous shot during one of the episodes of True Detective that blows my mind as well. Hitchcock's Rope was amazing as he told the entire story in one shot (as if you just another guest at the dinner party), but he had to cheat as cans of film only contained approximately 10 minutes worth of shooting so he'd "cheat" and end the roll on someones back or whatever and pick up where that shot left off. But still, that's 10 minutes of continuous acting, cinematography, direction, lighting, etc. Quite the feat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycsteve View Post
    He also did the very good Snake Eyes with Nicholis Cage and Gary Sinise. Speaking of homages , Snake Eyes features a very long continuous shot , much like the beginning of Touch Of Evil , which meAnders through the casino setting up plot lines . But while Orson welles did an actual continuous many minute shot , Depalma cheats with editing. Its still an ambitious shot. But the Wells sequence is amazing. Those who haven't seen Touch Of Evil , should , its prime Wells .
    When it's done in a single take, it's called a tracking shot. There's lots of movies and TV shows. I don't know if they still do it anymore, but a lot of police and medical dramas (e.g. St Elsewhere, ER, Hill Street Blues, etc), at least from the 80's and 90's made stock use, in like every episode, of tracking shots that would go on for several minutes, where the camera would pick out a couple actors talking, then as they walk past a bank of elevators, the camera lingers, an elevator opens, and picks out another couple actors, who walk across the set, talking, past an entrance, the camera again lingers and a new actor walks in, and so on. Can you imagine the choreography you'd have to put into place to pull that stuff off.

    I saw a documentary on PBS once about medical dramas, and it was someone from either E.R. or St. Elsewhere (or maybe both) who said they hated doing the tracking shots because if anyone messed up, blew their line, missed their mark, or stumbled or whatever, they'd have to reset and shoot the whole thing all over. They said that they pitied whoever had to be at the end of such a sequence because that person had the most pressure in terms of making sure they didn't frell up. One wonders how many takes they typically had to do on those shots. The blooper reels have to be hilarious.

    I also remember there being quite a few music videos that made use of tracking shots, sometimes lasting through the entire song. Tommy Shaw had one for a song called Girls With Guns, that had one of those "preludes" that precedes the actual start of the song, and I remember Steve Perry had a video with that mostly one tracking crane shot, with the camera up in the balcony of a concert hall as he walks onstage, then the camera swings up to the stage and, if I remember correctly, goes around him a couple times as he lip synchs the song, before tracking back out to the balcony at the end of the song, and Steve walks offstage. There was a Janet Jackson video with a lot of cuts, but it was styled to make it look like a continuous shot (though it doesn't take Albert Einstein to figure it out if you're paying attention).

    I don't know why, but I'm drawing a blank on tracking shots in movies, though I'm sure I must have seen dozens, maybe even hundreds. The only one I can think of is in Tenebrae, where they again used a crane do a two story tracking shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebone View Post
    But Scorceses nightclub thru the back door in Good Fellas is my all time favorite long tracking shots.
    That's an incredible shot. The choreography involved is pretty mind boggling, and the way it ends, with them sitting at the table and Lorraine Bracco, who is so overwhelmed by it all, just has to ask "What do you do?" Amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGeek View Post
    I also remember there being quite a few music videos that made use of tracking shots, sometimes lasting through the entire song..
    This is a nice split-screen version:


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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebone View Post
    ^^ That True Detective shot at the biker's den is fantastic!

    But Scorceses nightclub thru the back door in Good Fellas is my all time favorite long tracking shots.
    Forgot about that one! Great one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycsteve View Post
    He also did the very good Snake Eyes with Nicholis Cage and Gary Sinise. Speaking of homages , Snake Eyes features a very long continuous shot , much like the beginning of Touch Of Evil , which meAnders through the casino setting up plot lines . But while Orson welles did an actual continuous many minute shot , Depalma cheats with editing. Its still an ambitious shot. But the Wells sequence is amazing. Those who haven't seen Touch Of Evil , should , its prime Wells .
    My favorite oner is in Atonement, the scene at Dunkirk is amazing. I do agree with A Touch of Evil, really damn fine flick. Didn't know that the scene in Snake Eyes was doctored as I always though that was a oner also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruno View Post
    This is a nice split-screen version:

    Excellent video and a pretty damn good song to boot. I keep telling people about this vid but no one listens to me so screw them if they don't want to watch five minutes of damn good cinema.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Mail View Post
    So we should all watch movies only with positive messages?
    Please, point to absolutely any part of what I said that suggested that I'm interested at all in what you, or anyone else, choose to watch to the degree that I want to dictate those choices. Also, what were the words I used that you think implied I feel that everyone should only watch positive films?
    I think you just went at my post all kinds of wrong, and somehow it offended you. If you were on the writing or production team, I apologize.

    I get you didn't like it, fair enough, but your post is kind of ridiculous.
    What was ridiculous? That should be easy enough to articulate for me. Was my take wrong? Was it counter to how you felt about the movie, so my take becomes ridiculous? I just wanna be clear here about how I apparently fucked up so badly sharing my opinion about how a depressing movie was a depressing movie.
    It wasn't bad, and it was well acted, but it was just utterly bleak and without redemption or consequence, for anyone, and that's really all I meant. You read a lot more into what was there.


    Quote Originally Posted by proggy_jazzer View Post
    Interesting - my take-away was that we don't see a comeuppance, but we're invited to imagine it (and all that might happen on the way) by the way the movie ends, which for me is more interesting. Not the feel-good movie of the year by any stretch, but IMO deserving of the accolades. Different strokes...
    It was a find ending for a movie about a chain of horrible coincidences.

    We're asked to accept the same kind of empty satisfaction that McDormand's character is willing to accept for taking out her pain on anyone she wanted to blame. The movie ended with her on the road to becoming backwoods Batman, but she's willing to murder.

    As for consequences, I'm talking about McDormand's and Rockwell's characters as well. He only lost a job he hated and was terrible at for beating a man nearly to death, so that was of little consequence to him overall. She torched a building and put lives in danger because she was angry. She ended up getting a free dinner from the guy who kept her out of prison, and she just pissed all over his gift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    For continuous shots, two of my favorites are in Alfonso Cuarón's Children of Men.

    Damn, I remember that scene from True Detective. Riveting work, especially for TV.
    There was another good example recently in an episode of Daredevil, the most recent season.

    Matt Murdoch goes to a prison and he breaks a guy out, but it erupts into a full blown prison riot, with him working his way through the halls and corridors and having endless fights with inmates and guards. All done in one shot with some very involved fight choreography.

    It's kind of a homage to the hallway scene in the original oldboy, and also borrows a little from the first Raid movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frinspar View Post




    As for consequences, I'm talking about McDormand's and Rockwell's characters as well. He only lost a job he hated and was terrible at for beating a man nearly to death, so that was of little consequence to him overall. She torched a building and put lives in danger because she was angry. She ended up getting a free dinner from the guy who kept her out of prison, and she just pissed all over his gift.
    It's just, ah, a movie. Bad Country for Old Men left unresolved but is still powerful. Three Billboards was excellent film making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    It's just, ah, a movie. Bad Country for Old Men left unresolved but is still powerful. Three Billboards was excellent film making.
    Yes

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    Reindeer Games (2000)

    Stars Ben Afleck (bad, but not by his standards) as a guy who assumes his murdered cellmates identity to get with his smoking hot pen pal. (Charleze Theron, who graciously appears topless) upon release.
    Quickly gets sucked into a casino holdup plot, where things get wacky and unpredictable. Not a bad thriller considering. Has a great supporting cast, including Gary Sinise, Dennis Farina, Danny Trejo, and
    Isaac Hayes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frinspar View Post
    Please, point to absolutely any part of what I said that suggested that I'm interested at all in what you, or anyone else, choose to watch to the degree that I want to dictate those choices. Also, what were the words I used that you think implied I feel that everyone should only watch positive films?
    I think you just went at my post all kinds of wrong, and somehow it offended you. If you were on the writing or production team, I apologize.


    What was ridiculous? That should be easy enough to articulate for me. Was my take wrong? Was it counter to how you felt about the movie, so my take becomes ridiculous? I just wanna be clear here about how I apparently fucked up so badly sharing my opinion about how a depressing movie was a depressing movie.
    It wasn't bad, and it was well acted, but it was just utterly bleak and without redemption or consequence, for anyone, and that's really all I meant. You read a lot more into what was there.




    It was a find ending for a movie about a chain of horrible coincidences.

    We're asked to accept the same kind of empty satisfaction that McDormand's character is willing to accept for taking out her pain on anyone she wanted to blame. The movie ended with her on the road to becoming backwoods Batman, but she's willing to murder.

    As for consequences, I'm talking about McDormand's and Rockwell's characters as well. He only lost a job he hated and was terrible at for beating a man nearly to death, so that was of little consequence to him overall. She torched a building and put lives in danger because she was angry. She ended up getting a free dinner from the guy who kept her out of prison, and she just pissed all over his gift.
    Wow...after all that you actually claim that you think I am the on who is offended?

    Some movies are supposed to be bleak. Some movies are supposed to have characters that are unlikeable. Some movies have characters that act irrationally because that's how people are in real life. Some movies are supposed to be open ended for you to use your imagination.

    You may not like these concepts, but they are very commonly used and are not faults of the director, bad writing, bad editing or anything else...which is a very common and irrational form of criticism I often see about many movies.

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    Re watched True Grit (1968) last night.

    Still enjoyable, but clunky.

    The Coen's remake is a better film, although John Wayne will always be the infamous Rooster Cogburn imo
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    Watching a random horror flick on Comet TV......The Beast Within. What a creep show.

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    Just saw Get Out. I'm not into horror (my wife is) but this was a supremely crafted piece of work. Really tightly written (only saw one niggling hole) and the direction was first-rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    Just saw Get Out. I'm not into horror (my wife is) but this was a supremely crafted piece of work. Really tightly written (only saw one niggling hole) and the direction was first-rate.

    "I'm T-S-Mother Fucking-A!"
    Although I still have mixed feelings on "Us", Jordan Peele is the real deal in horror.

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    Watching a random horror flick on Comet TV......The Beast Within. What a creep show.

    I've been wanting to see that one.

    The Terminal Man An early movie by Michael Crichton. A scientist has a head injury, and gets some microcomputers implanted into his brain to help his seizures, mayhem ensues. I wasn't aware of this one, and it sort of reminded of THX-1138 the way it was shot/or the time period. Pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippypants View Post

    The Terminal Man An early movie by Michael Crichton. A scientist has a head injury, and gets some microcomputers implanted into his brain to help his seizures, mayhem ensues. I wasn't aware of this one, and it sort of reminded of THX-1138 the way it was shot/or the time period. Pretty good.
    Yeah, that was on TCM a couple nights ago, but I work on the weekends, so I can't stay up late on Friday night anymore, and the DVR is playing up again, so I wasn't able to record it. That's at least the second time in the last year or two they've had that one on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    Just saw Get Out. I'm not into horror (my wife is) but this was a supremely crafted piece of work. Really tightly written (only saw one niggling hole) and the direction was first-rate.

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    I just saw this the other day as well. Liked it a lot!
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    This is something I've noticed in Coen films but not given much thought

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    Here's a recent documentary I caught off YT with David Attenborough, called First Life. He's a really good host.


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    Papillin already discussed here, but yes, great classic movie.

    We Were Soldiers stars Mel Gibson and others about one of the earlier battles (1965) in Vietnam.

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