I didn't start seeing concerts until '82, but I just saw this interesting triple bill from the '70s on a friend's Facebook wall:
Renaissance (headliners)
10cc
Kiss
Sunshine Inn, Asbury Park, March 29, 1974
Sunshine.jpg
I didn't start seeing concerts until '82, but I just saw this interesting triple bill from the '70s on a friend's Facebook wall:
Renaissance (headliners)
10cc
Kiss
Sunshine Inn, Asbury Park, March 29, 1974
Sunshine.jpg
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He loved The Wombles single, 'Remember You're A Womble' too. Really!
I love his fake British accent, when I first heard the Ramones I'd been so used to hearing British singers trying to sound American, it was quite a novelty. I REALLY love Joey's voice, he's one of my favourite singers. Particularly endearing is his Anglo-inflection on the line "And oh I don't know why" from Judy Is A Punk
That's the one. I kind of liked City Boy, but Lake bored the shit out of me - so much that I found myself admiring the lead singer's dental work.
Cobra handling and cocaine use are a bad mix.
What was 10cc like live? Godley and Creme with a backup band?
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Ya know, this brings up an interesting point, and I realize I'm asking for trouble here, but anyway:
I saw an interview with Gene Simmons once, where he's talking about how some bands were better onstage than on record, and vice versa. He used the example of 10cc as a band that probably were better in the studio than they were onstage. I'm, not a really a 10cc fan, and I really only know a few of their songs, but I've always been curious to know if that was true, if they were able to translate their music into a live setting that "worked" as well as the studio versions.
I only saw 10 CC twice and that was in the early 00's, and they were quite a surprise, precisely because I didn't expect them to be good on stage....
But TBH, they were both times excellent and managed to do all their hits live on stage in a form very close to the studio original, and still had a good presence on stage
Maybe GS was right about 70's 10 CC (but wrong three decades later), but then again, can GS and his mega-Kiss shows be a trustworthy person for such a statement?
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
If my memory is right, County Stadium had Blackfoot, April Wine, Kansas
Well,I think he was talking about how certain bands, in theory, were never able to translate the energy of their live show to the studio, or whatever. You always hear people talk about how "terrible" the Grateful Dead's albums supposedly were, for instance. I think Gene's insinuation was that maybe Kiss were a better live band than they were in the studio, which I don't necessarily agree with, and he was trying to suggest that for other bands, it might have been the other way around.
Another example is somethign I heard John Entwistle say once. He said "Maybe The Beatles made better records us, but we could blow them off the stage!". True?! The Who are typically described as one of the best live bands ever. But were they better onstage than The Beatles? I haven't heard much in the way of live recordings from The Who from the time frame when the Beatles were still a functioning live band. Is Thunderfingers assertion true? Were The Who of 64-66 a better live band than The Beatles? Or is he talking about the later Who, say Tommy era and later, versus The Beatles (which really isn't fair, because, The Beatles stopped playing live after 66). How do you even quantify such a statement in the first place?!
Aerosmith/Foghat/Ted Nugent
Jethro Tull/Robin Trower/Rick Derringer
John Miles / Manfred Mann's Earth Band / Gary Wright (1977)
Boz Scaggs / Fleetwood Mac / The Eagles (1976)
John Miles / Dave Mason / Elton John (1976)
Little River Band / Heart / The Eagles (OK this was 1980)
"Frozen flaking fish raw nerve...In a cup of silver liquid fire" - Jethro Tull
Not 70s, but rather 1969.
Fillmore East: Opener: Led Zeppelin
Middle Band: Iron Butterfly
Headliner: Original 4 member Traffic
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Cobo Hall Detroit, early 1972
Gentle Giant opened then
The Eagles then
Yes
Zeppelin and The Who both went on those big "festival" tours of the US, with several bands all doing short sets. Both pretty much blitzkrieged their way through the competition. "Oh, no way am I going onstage after that!" I read an interview with John Paul Jones where he said that both bands had the same strategy: American bands would tune up onstage and then ease their way into a set. The Brits would go on with everything in tune and hit the first song as hard as possible, never letting up. Vanilla Fudge and Iron Butterfly were both victims. Would you go onstage after "My Generation" or "How Many More Times"? I think near the end of that short era The Doors drew both bands within the space of a month. It did not go well for the American side either time.
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No disrespect, Geez, but I think you're misremembering this one. I was sure you couldn't have seen the four-man Traffic in 1969--Dave Mason was long gone by then--so I did some digging. The January 1969 FE shows where Zeppelin supported Iron Butterfly were advertised as the Iron Butts headlining, then Zeppelin, with the Move opening. In the event, the Move cancelled, so the actual opener was Porter's Popular Preachers, a gospel act. I'm guessing that you're conflating this in your memory with the April 1968 FE shows where Traffic, possibly including the temporarily rejoined Dave Mason, headlined over Blue Cheer and Iron Butterfly. Ring a bell?
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A lot of these are just headliners with opening acts. What the OP was talking about was the whole substratum of '70s rock that barnstormed the USA (especially the midwest) on package tours without really reaching top status. Mahogany Rush, early REO Speedwagon, pre-Toys Aerosmith, Ted Nugent/Amboy Dukes, Rush, early KISS, pre-Buckingham/Nicks Fleetwood Mac, etc. etc.
This was after the bigger bands were already starting to headline arenas, and a lot of these bands toured college towns and secondary markets endlessly. REO Speedwagon have said that they actually were able to support themselves this way without having any significant record sales.
There's a bit of interview footage in The Kids Are Alright, where Moon talks about The Who doing the Murray The K tours, where they'd get like 10-15 minutes. That's basically how they broke into the US market, by working their way up the bills on those sort of tours.
You mean back when they were still a decent boogie band (or so I'm told), before Kevin Cronin turned them into an AC act, with High Infidelity and the subsequent records.REO Speedwagon have said that they actually were able to support themselves this way without having any significant record sales.
No offense taken, and frankly, while my long term memory is far superior to my "why tf did I get up from this chair" memory, it's far from infallible. I do know that Mason was definitely at the gig I attended, and I know I would remember if I had seen the Move (who I never got to see unfortunately), so it could just be conflation masturbation.
"My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician, and to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference"
President Harry S. Truman
And there's another one you remind me about, as I've never really heard The Move. Ya know, when I first heard of them, it was in connection with ELO (as I imagine it may have been for a lot of Americans). In fact, for quite a few years, I didn't know how important The Move was, beyond being the band that led to ELO. I somehow didn't know they had influenced bands like Cheap Trick (who covered a couple Move songs) or Kiss (Paul Stanley once said he based Firehouse on Fire Brigade) until sometime in the 90's.
I really need to get some Move CD's one of these days.
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